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It's been noticed and mentioned almost literally dozens of times. It's kind of a topic in the wishlist about giving Rangers something extra to make it more worth spending all those skill points to achieve.

I do not want the skill pre reqs to change but,

One of the devs in the ranger forum at FF (the one who wasn't DarthPlatypus)said that they want to change it so that the ranger skill set only relies on 2 trees from scout. The problem with that is our skill branches transfer 1:1 and they have yet to decide how to accomplish this.

This was one of the few comments that actually stuck with me from a rather uneventfull FF.

Oggrim

MRanger/MRifleman

Agmar

MArchitect/MArtisen/TK 0-4-1-0(thanks to the CU)

cuz us rangers own

/target devs

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Bendar_Maxis wrote:

I don't know if I'm the only one that has noticed this but ranger is the only profession of the post CU that requires a master novice profession. ie... Rifleman, pistoleer, carbineer only needs the respective weapons tree and combat support to obtain it's elite novice, TKM needs unarmed/2 hand... etc.

You might be wondering where I'm going with this but for some of us that are doing fs grinding and have some skills tied up in the village it makes it impossible to master ranger and master an elite combat profession. I suggest making ranger a 2 tree novice profession just like all the rest. Maybe have it survival/hunting since that is the main focus on ranger anyways (since there's only 2 traps a ranger has in the whole ranger profession (not counting the scout profession)) or any combination of the two novice trees and have the master scout as an enhancer.

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Ofcourse we haven't noticed.... We need master scout to become master ranger? And now we cannot become a jedi???

"You suggest to make a 2 tree pre-req", well since most of us are not so concerned by becoming a jedi, most of us don't care we can't become a jedi and having an elite combat profession next to ranger....

You should ask yourself: why would a JEDI want to be a Master Ranger???? If jedi think they have it bad, then please, by all means, stay away from Ranger as far as possible!

Maybe this sounds like a rant (maybe it even is), but I'm getting sick and tired of this discussion.

I WANT MASTER SCOUT AS PRE-REQ AND I WANT MY RANGER SP TO COUNT FOR SOMETHING TOO!!!!

Yeah the ranger community seems to consistently say that we dont want the skill points altered... but we do want it to be worth it. At least thats how I feel about it.

I think its safeto say most Rangers don't want our pre-req's changing - we want our skillset improving to make our skillpoint outlay worth it. As for FS, you could always just bank the XP and train all the boxes in one go when the time comes....

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Oggram wrote:

I do not want the skill pre reqs to change but,

One of the devs in the ranger forum at FF (the one who wasn't DarthPlatypus) said that they want to change it so that the ranger skill set only relies on 2 trees from scout. The problem with that is our skill branches transfer 1:1 and they have yet to decide how to accomplish this.

This was one of the few comments that actually stuck with me from a rather uneventfull FF.

Oggrim

MRanger/MRifleman

Agmar

MArchitect/MArtisen/TK 0-4-1-0(thanks to the CU)

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I really hope they don't. Because if they do, what will be left of Ranger. To be consistend the 2 coresponding trees in Ranger should be dropped also. But what would it be that will be placed in these free trees? As we have 2 main Ranger groups, creature and warfare, one of these will suffer a significant loss I fear.

So for me I'd rather stay with the prereqs as they are and hope to see our 4 trees enhanced with something from both main Ranger groups.

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Bendar_Maxis wrote:
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Yes this has come up a lot lately. The best explanation I can offer you is this -

Of all the basic and elite profession relationships (i.e. medic to doctor, brawler to TKM, etc), the scout to ranger relationship has the greatest correlation. In fact the two professions directly correspond, tree for tree. It is then for that reason that we master scout before we master ranger. I guess they could drop the requirement to 4444 scout, but then I guess most people would still take the master scout box just for the extra skill mods anyway.

Another thing I've been wondering about is whether or not we could ask for a stomach emptying modifier. I use foods and drinks all of the time to make up for my complete lack of combat modifiers (+10 at master doesn't count. Dancers had that for a while, so did every master profession.)