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Thread: Keep in mind, we have been playing under a broken system since launch.
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Calculus_Entropy
Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:51 pm
#1
I think a lot of us have forgotten that the current combat system has been broken since launch. I know I had, in the beginning.
Please don't forget that the intent of the new system is to make combat more fair and more challenging for everyone.
Also remember that the devs philosophy is 'things can, and will change.'
This is not to say that we should accept everything that happens, but getting pissed over every little bit of speculation isn't healthy for anyone!
Go forth and be civil
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Please don't forget that the intent of the new system is to make combat more fair and more challenging for everyone.
Also remember that the devs philosophy is 'things can, and will change.'
This is not to say that we should accept everything that happens, but getting pissed over every little bit of speculation isn't healthy for anyone!
Go forth and be civil
Dark_0ne
Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:27 pm
#2
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Go forth and be evil.
you know when you read something, and you actually read what you want to, and not what was written ....
I could have sworn that said "go forth and be evil" whan I first looked at it .....
frightwig
Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:37 pm
#4
I don't think it's the combat system most of us are concerned with.
As far as the combat system: Well, apart from the "pictographs", I'm really enjoying the combat system for the most part. Once you get used to it, there are quite a few things to like. I'm especially happy about being able to target a group member, and having my fire directed at their target and heals directed at that friend. That's a great improvement and makes group hunting fun.
I definitely agree that things needed to change and I think the CU, for the most part, will be positive change... I'm looking forward to it.
However, regarding scout/ranger issues: We were broken before, and now it seems we may be broken further. The speculation in the ranger forums is a result of the lack of communication from the devs, our absence from the CU, the lack of time we have to test, and the fact that we currently can't even test parts of the scout profession (trapping). Add to that, many are upset about riflemen getting radar stealth. It was a ranger community idea to be invisible from radar, but we were told before that it would never happen for us. (well, I guess that's true in a sense)
I do agree with keeping it civil though
Some issues are speculation at this point. But the fact is, time to test and have our concerns heard is running out... so fearing the worst and saying "what if?" is all we can do to prepare. A simple yes or no to our worries from Tiggs, Thunderheart or anyone would solve all of this.
Overall though, I think the ranger forum still seems pretty civil.. just upset.
As far as the combat system: Well, apart from the "pictographs", I'm really enjoying the combat system for the most part. Once you get used to it, there are quite a few things to like. I'm especially happy about being able to target a group member, and having my fire directed at their target and heals directed at that friend. That's a great improvement and makes group hunting fun.
I definitely agree that things needed to change and I think the CU, for the most part, will be positive change... I'm looking forward to it.
However, regarding scout/ranger issues: We were broken before, and now it seems we may be broken further. The speculation in the ranger forums is a result of the lack of communication from the devs, our absence from the CU, the lack of time we have to test, and the fact that we currently can't even test parts of the scout profession (trapping). Add to that, many are upset about riflemen getting radar stealth. It was a ranger community idea to be invisible from radar, but we were told before that it would never happen for us. (well, I guess that's true in a sense)
I do agree with keeping it civil though
Overall though, I think the ranger forum still seems pretty civil.. just upset.
Calculus_Entropy
Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:45 pm
#5
Well, Kimi, the number one concern I have seen here, is that Ranger's won't be able to solo after the CU. This concern has manifested itself in the 'how many hitpoints do we get' threads and the 'Nerf Ranger skill point cost threads.
Vorpaks
Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:38 pm
#6
I am seeing crowd control all over the board - thinking of going pistoleer Cal? 
You know my evil take on the situation - if you want to be mad, be mad. Complain. Get your opinion out there and be heard. Just remember that the way you do it will effect the way you enjoy the game and these boards. It is possible to complain so loud and so long that you become incapable of doing anything else - seeing the good in any changes. Don't be that guy (rhymes with Jed-eye, how perfect!
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One of our strengths I think as a community is our ability to to be reasonable and logical. To keep argument at a higher level. At least, I would like it to be.
So I second Calc - go out and be civil. Beat civil into their brains until they can't think straight. Make them see civil coming and run from you in fear! Bury them under gigabites of Owen-Lars style civil until they can't move. And if it does not work, it is likely nothing would have. And you will still respect yourself as a valuable member of the community, as a Ranger. And so will everyone else.
You know my evil take on the situation - if you want to be mad, be mad. Complain. Get your opinion out there and be heard. Just remember that the way you do it will effect the way you enjoy the game and these boards. It is possible to complain so loud and so long that you become incapable of doing anything else - seeing the good in any changes. Don't be that guy (rhymes with Jed-eye, how perfect!
One of our strengths I think as a community is our ability to to be reasonable and logical. To keep argument at a higher level. At least, I would like it to be.
So I second Calc - go out and be civil. Beat civil into their brains until they can't think straight. Make them see civil coming and run from you in fear! Bury them under gigabites of Owen-Lars style civil until they can't move. And if it does not work, it is likely nothing would have. And you will still respect yourself as a valuable member of the community, as a Ranger. And so will everyone else.
Creaturetaimer
Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:47 pm
#7
I prefer borked
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
I think a lot of us have forgotten that the current combat system has been broken since launch. I know I had, in the beginning.
Please don't forget that the intent of the new system is to make combat more fair and more challenging for everyone.
Also remember that the devs philosophy is 'things can, and will change.'
This is not to say that we should accept everything that happens, but getting pissed over every little bit of speculation isn't healthy for anyone!
Go forth and be civil.
Calculus_Entropy
Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:49 pm
#8
Vorpaks wrote:
I am seeing crowd control all over the board - thinking of going pistoleer Cal?
I just got tired of not being able to post becuase I was afraidI would get banned. I finally got my civility neurons firing again, so I can post without flaming...I think
Calculus_Entropy
Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:50 pm
#9
Creaturetaimer wrote:
I prefer borked
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
I think a lot of us have forgotten that the current combat system has been broken since launch. I know I had, in the beginning.
Please don't forget that the intent of the new system is to make combat more fair and more challenging for everyone.
Also remember that the devs philosophy is 'things can, and will change.'
This is not to say that we should accept everything that happens, but getting pissed over every little bit of speculation isn't healthy for anyone!
Go forth and be civil.
How about Busted?
Creaturetaimer
Mon Apr 04, 2005 4:06 pm
#10
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Creaturetaimer wrote:
I prefer borked
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
I think a lot of us have forgotten that the current combat system has been broken since launch. I know I had, in the beginning.
Please don't forget that the intent of the new system is to make combat more fair and more challenging for everyone.
Also remember that the devs philosophy is 'things can, and will change.'
This is not to say that we should accept everything that happens, but getting pissed over every little bit of speculation isn't healthy for anyone!
Go forth and be civil.
How about Busted?
That works ![]()
Broken means nothing works but busted means it works to a point. No where that point is..............
Message Edited by Creaturetaimer on 04-04-2005 06:07 PM
Temujin23
Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:24 pm
#11
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Vorpaks wrote:
I am seeing crowd control all over the board - thinking of going pistoleer Cal?
I just got tired of not being able to post becuase I was afraidI would get banned. I finally got my civility neurons firing again, so I can post without flaming...I think.
That's why I started the rant/tirade thread-- give us a nice little temporary hotel room to trash without messing up our main digs.
al-djinn'i
Owen-Lars
Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:33 pm
#12
Temujin23 Wrote:
"give us a nice little temporary hotel room to trash without messing up our main digs"
Ah, Dublin, 03 
Dariane_Kamutsovy
Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:17 am
#13
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
I think a lot of us have forgotten that the current combat system has been broken since launch. I know I had, in the beginning.
If that's the case, then IMHO, it should never have been launched in the first place.
But my guess is that, it's the same as with the CU, some hot shot top manager decides it MUST go on....
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