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Thread: Post your comments here (link to discussion thread)

Owen-Lars
Thu May 26, 2005 7:13 am
#1

Seeing as though it seems our opinions and feelings on the camo situation dont matter, be sure to head to the discussion thread opened up by Tiggs in regards to todays publish and post your thoughts on the matter.Myself, Paks and the othercorrs areworking to get this issue sorted out and getting your opinions and feelings into this discussion thread would help alot.


Cheers guys


Heres the link: Click Me!



THORTAC BALCOR
The Lost Ranger
RANGER
Dariane_Kamutsovy
Thu May 26, 2005 7:23 am
#2

I'm sorry, but I won't do it...


You probably know why or can figure it out...
Owen-Lars
Thu May 26, 2005 7:26 am
#3

No this is the post to get your feedback across. Im not saying you would or have but post in a civil way highlighting the facts and issues you have in a well mannered way and they cant do anything about it. The best way to get fixes and feedback is to present your arguments and issues in a way that they cannot dispute, thats when they have no other option but to either ignore it or do something about it.



THORTAC BALCOR
The Lost Ranger
RANGER
Rancorrider4
Thu May 26, 2005 7:31 am
#4






Owen-Lars wrote:
No this is the post to get your feedback across. Im not saying you would or have but post in a civil way highlighting the facts and issues you have in a well mannered way and they cant do anything about it. The best way to get fixes and feedback is to present your arguments and issues in a way that they cannot dispute, thats when they have no other option but to either ignore it or do something about it.




Oooops. Sorry about that Owen.




nppmaHamus

o Galactic Geographic Explorero

Master Mountain Climber


Dariane_Kamutsovy
Thu May 26, 2005 7:47 am
#5

I'll give it a try...


Ranger skills


Tree 1: Wayfaring....


/conceal now for everyone. Only usefull to make the kits, so anyone can use it? Why? I don't want to be a crafter! Unknown what impact camouflage skills have on using kit on one self or on someone else in comparison by non-rangers (i include scout to be a non-ranger in this case). Also: camo not working properly. Breaks too often. Not working vs NPCs (intended?)


Real concealment (hiding from radar) given away to rifleman/jedi.


Conclusion: rather useless to be for Ranger only.


Tree 2: Frontiering


Camps = eyecandy.


Foraged items = crap. Useless tree.


Conclusion: obsolete


Tree 3: Tracking


Tracking what? Krayts? You need to track a way around them with current amount of krayt spawns... Topper: 5 krayt dragons in one spot, move out a few meters, 3 more.


Harvesting: scout can outharvest ranger over time due to be able to have more skills in combat classes. Not even talking bout droids/foods here.

Skill: creature knowledge: not giving any edge in either defense vs creature or offense vs creatures.


Conclusion: superfluous. Can be (mis?)used for tracking (concealed) players (jedi?)


Tree 4: Advanced trapping

Trapping: different reports. Given traps seem not be working (sonic pulse, flash bomb).Still not working on NPCs (intended?)


Rescue: difficult. With hate system, I believe it's still not working as it is supposed to be.


Conclusion: not working



Constructive and well-mannered? Let's hope so.
AragornSoS
Thu May 26, 2005 8:14 am
#6

done and done. Posted my thoughts on this, hope I didn't get too verbose.





Dekiion G'Dulth
Colonel | Imperial Sector Rangers
"What others abandon, we protect."

Master Ranger / Master Rifleman / Storm Squadron Ace
Rancorrider4
Thu May 26, 2005 8:27 am
#7






AragornSoS wrote:

done and done. Posted my thoughts on this, hope I didn't get too verbose.







Very well done Aragorn. Really nicely worded.



nppmaHamus

o Galactic Geographic Explorero

Master Mountain Climber


JBMat
Thu May 26, 2005 8:27 am
#8


I am gonna sell 5 use kits for the max on the bazaar. For Corellia and Talus only. Let the artisans die horrible deaths from being eaten by killer durnis.


Let some artisan ask me for a kit.


JB


AragornSoS
Thu May 26, 2005 8:29 am
#9


ooh, I know - maybe we can ask the devs to modify the animation when we conceal someone to look like a slap upside the head. Or something.



/me needs more coffee I think




Dekiion G'Dulth
Colonel | Imperial Sector Rangers
"What others abandon, we protect."

Master Ranger / Master Rifleman / Storm Squadron Ace
Owen-Lars
Thu May 26, 2005 8:45 am
#10

Yeah nice post Aragorn, very nice.


Oh and JB? lol I cant wait to get my self rez kits heh or my free vendors



THORTAC BALCOR
The Lost Ranger
RANGER
Vorpaks
Thu May 26, 2005 9:53 am
#11



Dariane_Kamutsovy wrote:


If you do post that I suggest editing out the word "crap."



Paks
Master Ranger/Master Creature Handler
-I support ATK play

KapowBzapp
Thu May 26, 2005 11:25 am
#12

Owen, I'm about to reply in the issues thread.

I think we need to emphasize, clearly and succinctly, is that Ranger and Scout now

- raise your Combat Level
- require more skill points than "combat classes"
- give almost no combat viability in return

That's a lot of skill points to be an inferior combatant with few useful skills.

Though I don't mind the camo kit change that much, if we're to be a crafter class then we're becoming crafters with far fewer benefits than an Artisan, who gets merchant skills, or a Bio-Engineer, who require far fewer skill points.





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Long ago they were cool. Now they're everywhere, and hard to tell apart.

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/grabAndPull to get the Theed guard out of that banner

Grinding is for coffee. Nobody "forces" you to grind. You play by choice.
Stamina
Thu May 26, 2005 11:29 am
#13


Guess their server is having a hiccup or something, because I got booted off and tried to log in on BioEngine, but no success in replying to log in or just the simple link at the top.



So, I tried my alt account and voila!



So, I posted my thoughts. Twice.




Also, it seems to me a lot of crafters are comparing having armor and weapons to our camo kits being given out? Guess they had a capsule of aerosol surgically implanted into their sinuses, because they are seriously braindead about the relationship between self-only and everyone items.




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