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Thread: DISCLAIMER: This is my OPINION on the cybernetic stuff!
A bit of canon? Luke lost his hand and Vader is described by Obi-Wan as more machine then man. Two main characters is hardly a bit. A better argument would be that neither Vader nor Luke were more powerful with the cybernetic enhancements. For Luke there is no evidence that he is or isn't but Vader gets "beaten" to exhaustion fairly quick in the final duel. So cybernetics are only replacements, if anything, weaker then the original. Putting those in game should be an ID thing. (/Yell, Cybernetic limb of your choice, visit the ID tent now, only 20k! :smileywink
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
I totally despise the idea of the cybernetic stuff. Yeah, there is a bit of canon that supports such things, but the idea just takes away from my Star Wars experience!
Washell wrote:
Mellichae is the leader of the Sith Shadows that are trying to destroy the village of Aurillia. Mellichea lost his arm and nearly his life in a duel with Vader. He's trying to destroy the village to return in good graces with the Emperor and become a Sith Lord. (recent FF)
The padawan trials end with an attack/ambush by Mellichae himself. One of his arms is a cybernetic replacement. So it's in the game. Not as prepatch for player implementation but for an npc.
A bit of canon? Luke lost his hand and Vader is described by Obi-Wan as more machine then man. Two main characters is hardly a bit. A better argument would be that neither Vader nor Luke were more powerful with the cybernetic enhancements. For Luke there is no evidence that he is or isn't but Vader gets "beaten" to exhaustion fairly quick in the final duel. So cybernetics are only replacements, if anything, weaker then the original. Putting those in game should be an ID thing. (/Yell, Cybernetic limb of your choice, visit the ID tent now, only 20k! :smileywink
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
I totally despise the idea of the cybernetic stuff. Yeah, there is a bit of canon that supports such things, but the idea just takes away from my Star Wars experience!
A purely graphical, roleplay element. I would fully support such roleplay cybernetics along with a variety of scars. It kinda bugs me to have been a Ranger for several months and not have any scars to show for it.
Good point about how powerful the cybernetics were. My point for how little canon there is on the subject was that there are very few characters that had them (Vader, Luke, Moruth Doole, more?). Ifone uses the fact that 2 of the main characters had the implants and they should be included because of that, thenone can easily say 2 of the main characters were Jedi and therefore everyone should be Jedi.
Another thing about Luke and Vader is that you could not see the cybernetics, and therefore, art assests would be unnecessary. You would simply have to say that you have a prosthetic limb.
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Good point about how powerful the cybernetics were. My point for how little canon there is on the subject was that there are very few characters that had them (Vader, Luke, Moruth Doole, more?). Ifone uses the fact that 2 of the main characters had the implants and they should be included because of that, thenone can easily say 2 of the main characters were Jedi and therefore everyone should be Jedi.
Another thing about Luke and Vader is that you could not see the cybernetics, and therefore, art assests would be unnecessary. You would simply have to say that you have a prosthetic limb.
3 chars out of, say, 300 featured in the movies and EU, extrapolating from that 1% of the galaxy population has them. 1% of billions is millions. Luke was a simple dude working for a resource strained faction when he got his so we can assume the techniques to manufacture and attachs artificial limbs is as common and cheap as a prosthetic limb is here on earth. You didn't see them more then a few short shots because allof the special effect budgets was spend on flashlights and space combat ![]()
You do see Anakin's replacement hand at the wedding scene in EP2 and it might well be possible we'll see Anakin in Episode III with a metal hand all the time thanks to today's CGI.
Message Edited by Washell on 09-08-2004 05:51 PM
My KOTOR characters were filled with implants and enhancers hehe
Message Edited by Owen-Lars on 09-08-2004 05:20 PM
Usual swg problem, there are many things around that aren't *directly* non-starwarsy but end up starwarsy quite fast.
Example: Neither Wookiees nor Jedi nor Imperials can be considered 'not starwarsy' but an imperial wookiee jedi is about as unstarwarsy as it can get
Message Edited by darmokVtS on 09-08-2004 05:59 PM
Grevious is almost all robot. There is very little "meat" left in that tin can. He seems to do quite well and is "canon".
However...
I don't think it should be common to "volenteer" to have your original equipment removed for one. Perhaps, only vets and then only long standing vets. After years of battle, and in a single profession, should the "unfortunate" occure and you would need one.
If for no other reason it would reward the dedicated and tic off the holochasers.