Ranger Archive
Thread: Ok, I don't wanna hear any whining...
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JBMat
Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:34 pm
#1
...about how hard it is to make Master Ranger. I have played, by actual time - clock watching -- all of 6 hours. In that time period I would have become Master Ranger twice, minus survival (and t'were I were a true weener, coulda macro'd that but we all know how I feel about macros).
No macros, except the /lootall / harvestwhatever. Yes, I am and will continue to be a Master in a combat profession - so what? It was a lot quicker to master Pistoleer than Ranger. On that note, I have become a master Pistoleer twice over, all trees. I have been hunting my azz off to get some FS xp. 30-1 on weapons (I just watch combat and divide by 3 and multiple by 2 to get how much "combat" xp is literally flowing in). Hides... a tailor actually said to chill for a bit, she had more than she can use in a month. Meat, been giving it away to noobs. Spending my "mission money" on stuff, to include the PA and contributions to the city.
Maybe it's because I know what to hunt, where to go. No solo groups either, the spam from what the others are doing messes me up. Been hunting creatures almost exclusively, except for the odd NPC who wanders in to bug me. Shoot, trap, trap, shoot, harvest -- laff.
Next person caught whining gets 40 lashes with a wet durni.
JB
Vorpaks
Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:52 pm
#4
What if they like being lashed with wet durnis? 
No, no. I'm not talking about me. Keep away with that thing.
On Bloodfin I am sloooowly crawling up the smuggler tree, one gulf drolg lair at a time. You mastered pistoleer twice? Yikes! Maybe it is worth it to master scout so I can use all the traps to help me out. Paks used to use pistols and somehow I didn't remember it going this slowly. And I am almost at Frontiering 4 already just from healing myself in between lairs so why not?
I took a page from your book on TC and put the pets away. Am now using soley traps. It is going... better than I thought it would.
No, no. I'm not talking about me. Keep away with that thing.
On Bloodfin I am sloooowly crawling up the smuggler tree, one gulf drolg lair at a time. You mastered pistoleer twice? Yikes! Maybe it is worth it to master scout so I can use all the traps to help me out. Paks used to use pistols and somehow I didn't remember it going this slowly. And I am almost at Frontiering 4 already just from healing myself in between lairs so why not?
I took a page from your book on TC and put the pets away. Am now using soley traps. It is going... better than I thought it would.
AgonThalia
Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:24 pm
#5
No whining now or ever
Ive been doing the same thing. My experience is this: I hologround for 2 whole professions before i got sick of it. Artisan and Medic. Thats it. The other professions ive done were for fun and excitement. (pistols/ carbines/ tka/ swords/ fencer/ pike) In the middle I took a break and had some fun dancing so i could participate in the social aspect of the game and truly i was so burned out from hunting.
I have had a great time, and when i got to the village, I had already unlocked 4 of the trees for FS. Amazing!
Now, I am watching my friends grind enough xp (enought to master 38 professions) like its going out of style. I still do the same things i always do. Hunt, trap, kill, skin. And im still having fun. I may go jedi for kicks... and then (of course) make my secondary a master ranger again. Nevertheless, I have fun when i take things at a nice pace and keep in mind that I wont be first, and if youre having fun, youre not grinding.
/salute JB
always enjoy your posts.
Ive been doing the same thing. My experience is this: I hologround for 2 whole professions before i got sick of it. Artisan and Medic. Thats it. The other professions ive done were for fun and excitement. (pistols/ carbines/ tka/ swords/ fencer/ pike) In the middle I took a break and had some fun dancing so i could participate in the social aspect of the game and truly i was so burned out from hunting.
I have had a great time, and when i got to the village, I had already unlocked 4 of the trees for FS. Amazing!
Now, I am watching my friends grind enough xp (enought to master 38 professions) like its going out of style. I still do the same things i always do. Hunt, trap, kill, skin. And im still having fun. I may go jedi for kicks... and then (of course) make my secondary a master ranger again. Nevertheless, I have fun when i take things at a nice pace and keep in mind that I wont be first, and if youre having fun, youre not grinding.
/salute JB
always enjoy your posts.
Almagill
Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:33 pm
#6
JBMat wrote:...about how hard it is to make Master Ranger. I have played, by actual time - clock watching -- all of 6 hours. In that time period I would have become Master Ranger twice, minus survival (and t'were I were a true weener, coulda macro'd that but we all know how I feel about macros).
Yup. For all it took me what felt like MONTHS to get from Novice Ranger to MR I could have done it a LOT faster if that is all I'd been doing. I was dithering around about 2222, wandering off and tinkering with other profs, nurturing a couple of characters on other servers AND one, sorry, three, on TC...
then the welter of new MR posts here and the fact that a friend started in game, fresh toon, no baggage, and in what seemed to be a couple of days had MR, all bar the tents, finally shook me out of my slumber.
COurse, I've mastered nothing since then, here or anyplace else, lol. Must get back to TC and fill that toon out some
Serraphin
Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:23 pm
#7
/agree. But JB, what iswrong with macro crafting a useless tree such as survival? If a tree has no benefit I see no harm in providing a level of play commensurate with reward.I would recommend to anyone to take your time and enjoy all of the Scout and Ranger trees save survival. Better for newbies to just grind that one and be done with it.
JBMat wrote:
...about how hard it is to make Master Ranger. I have played, by actual time - clock watching -- all of 6 hours. In that time period I would have become Master Ranger twice, minus survival (and t'were I were a true weener, coulda macro'd that but we all know how I feel about macros).
No macros, except the /lootall / harvestwhatever. Yes, I am and will continue to be a Master in a combat profession - so what? It was a lot quicker to master Pistoleer than Ranger. On that note, I have become a master Pistoleer twice over, all trees. I have been hunting my azz off to get some FS xp. 30-1 on weapons (I just watch combat and divide by 3 and multiple by 2 to get how much "combat" xp is literally flowing in). Hides... a tailor actually said to chill for a bit, she had more than she can use in a month. Meat, been giving it away to noobs. Spending my "mission money" on stuff, to include the PA and contributions to the city.
Maybe it's because I know what to hunt, where to go. No solo groups either, the spam from what the others are doing messes me up. Been hunting creatures almost exclusively, except for the odd NPC who wanders in to bug me. Shoot, trap, trap, shoot, harvest -- laff.
Next person caught whining gets 40 lashes with a wet durni.
JB
Dark_0ne
Thu Sep 09, 2004 4:55 am
#10
JBMat wrote:
...about how hard it is to make Master Ranger. I have played, by actual time - clock watching -- all of 6 hours. In that time period I would have become Master Ranger twice, minus survival (and t'were I were a true weener, coulda macro'd that but we all know how I feel about macros).
the thing is - you ARE a master ranger, therefore you are harvesting more than a master scout, so gaining xp more quickly ....
also, you have a better hit and trap bonus on creatures, so can solo harder creatures than a master scout perhaps ...
maybe add a couple of hours onto that ?
darmokVtS
Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:38 am
#11
As I have made my way back to master ranger several times (and dropped it again several times too hehe):
Of all the elite profession I mastered (I played three chars at some point, and my main Kope has been playing quite a couple of varying templates before I ended up at the current one, all in all I mastered ranger (three times), rifleman, pistoleer, doctor (twice), combat medic, smuggler, teras kasi, pikeman, musician, swordsman (twice), fencer) ranger was BY far the fastest to master, I can not at all understand why ppl whine about it (admittedly some of the above named profs can be mastered completly - musician - or at least in larger parts (doc, cm) afk, I however didn't do so
).
I do not at all understand people complaining here about the 'effort' needed to master ranger.
Oh and don't even guess I was holochasing, the one and only Holo I used for fun was telling kope to master dancer, but I wasn't willing to do so.
Of all the elite profession I mastered (I played three chars at some point, and my main Kope has been playing quite a couple of varying templates before I ended up at the current one, all in all I mastered ranger (three times), rifleman, pistoleer, doctor (twice), combat medic, smuggler, teras kasi, pikeman, musician, swordsman (twice), fencer) ranger was BY far the fastest to master, I can not at all understand why ppl whine about it (admittedly some of the above named profs can be mastered completly - musician - or at least in larger parts (doc, cm) afk, I however didn't do so
).I do not at all understand people complaining here about the 'effort' needed to master ranger.
Oh and don't even guess I was holochasing, the one and only Holo I used for fun was telling kope to master dancer, but I wasn't willing to do so
.Message Edited by darmokVtS on 09-09-2004 02:40 PM
murphy7
Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:17 am
#12
I don't get it either. Now I have yet to master Ranger, but I have gained the vast majority of my experience for it on the way to doing other things. Finally bothered with the Dantooine / Yavin IV portions of the Rebel Themepark, and only using Mask Scent to keep the unintended conflicts to a minimum netted me the entire portion of XP needed for Wayfaring III. I use traps regularly but not excessively in fighting creatures, and am well on my way to Trapping IV without ever having deliberately set out to "grind" the xp for it.
What I have not been using is camps given the efficacy of buffs. For an experiment, I sat in a camp and made practice camp kits for near the half hour camp duration, and saw that I would come from it with about 3-4k xp, and that I would likely need to do that several times to make finish off the Frontiering line (currently at Frontiering II). I'd rather try to get some hunts together out of Mos Eisley, and see how it goes. It's gotta beat grinding practice camps.
None of this is a whine. Scout and Ranger have both been enormously useful to me; I use glow wires and flash bangs routinely in hunting, camps have kept downtime low when I choose to forgo buffs, and tracking has certainly kept the questing sane with those npcs who might choose to wander from the waypoint. And putting up a monstrous Field Base near the newbie hunting fields around Mos Eisley or similar location is its own entertainment.
Seiryuu
Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:46 am
#13
Buuuuuut JaaaaayBeeeeeee, squalls are cuter. Can I get a wet squall instead?
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