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Thread: Ranger Weapon's and Certs.
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AgonThalia
Thu Jul 22, 2004 5:27 pm
#1
Armor Certs: Yes... we get the battle armor (like RIS armor)
Weapon Certs: None whatsoever.. mainly because you can be a ranged or melee ranger, the whole debate here is what should we get to enhance ranger without forcing you to be ranged or melee.
Wyldcat309
Tue May 10, 2005 7:02 am
#2
Ok. Master CM's get one.... Master Smuggler's get one.... Master Squad Leader's get one.... Why not Master Rangers???
JBMat
Tue May 10, 2005 7:51 am
#3
As we technically don't need a weapon class to master Ranger ( nothing says "You" have to kill the creatures, just harvest) why should we get a weapons cert?
Think about it.
JB
Wyldcat309
Tue May 10, 2005 8:10 am
#4
So you disagree with what I have said? I was just saying it would be nice. And how many rangers do you know of that Don't have a weapon Profession? I think SOE focused to much in one area and not enough in another.
Ziege19
Tue May 10, 2005 8:13 am
#5
JBMat wrote:As we technically don't need a weapon class to master Ranger ( nothing says "You" have to kill the creatures, just harvest) why should we get a weapons cert?
Think about it.
JB
Because we are hunters, not scavengers.
Wyldcat309
Tue May 10, 2005 8:17 am
#6
Ziege19 wrote:
JBMat wrote:
As we technically don't need a weapon class to master Ranger ( nothing says "You" have to kill the creatures, just harvest) why should we get a weapons cert?
Think about it.
JB
Because we are hunters, not scavengers.
/agree
Calculus_Entropy
Tue May 10, 2005 8:18 am
#7
Good point.
Ziege19 wrote:
Because we are hunters, not scavengers.
Vorpaks
Tue May 10, 2005 8:44 am
#8
Wyldcat309 wrote:Ok. Master CM's get one.... Master Smuggler's get one.... Master Squad Leader's get one.... Why not Master Rangers???
I think a weapon cert is a little redundant at this point don't you? If we get high enough level - which usually a MRanger willl, you can basically use almost any weapon in the game or its equivalent. How many weapons do you need? (Ok, ok, dumb question)
I would much rather see AgonThalia's suggestion of Ranger specific specials than a Ranger specific weapon we can only use with the specials from our combat mix. For me personally as a MRanger/MCH I can use almost any wepon in the game but my most used special is placed shot from marksman carbines I. Sad, sad, sad.
Calculus_Entropy
Tue May 10, 2005 8:45 am
#9
Vorpaks wrote:
Wyldcat309 wrote:
Ok. Master CM's get one.... Master Smuggler's get one.... Master Squad Leader's get one.... Why not Master Rangers???
I think a weapon cert is a little redundant at this point don't you? If we get high enough level - which usually a MRanger willl, you can basically use almost any weapon in the game or its equivalent. How many weapons do you need? (Ok, ok, dumb question)
I would much rather see AgonThalia's suggestion of Ranger specific specials than a Ranger specific weapon we can only use with the specials from our combat mix. For me personally as a MRanger/MCH I can use almost any wepon in the game but my most used special is placed shot from marksman carbines I. Sad, sad, sad.
Oooohh....another good point!
Wyldcat309
Tue May 10, 2005 9:01 am
#10
I see what you are saying, but is it just me or did they focus more on some professions and not others? It was just a few days ago when they added 2 new Schematics to Weaponsmith, Alliance Carbine Needler and Alliance Disrupter Pistol.The carbine is a level 30 weapon, no special Certs, and the Disrupter is Master Combat Medic Cert. Why are they favoring some professions over others? only thing I see they have changed in Ranger and Scout is the Survival Line XP change. It is just Scouting XP... No more need to sit in Camps now for XP... and that was the fun line to do
Vorpaks wrote:
Wyldcat309 wrote:
Ok. Master CM's get one.... Master Smuggler's get one.... Master Squad Leader's get one.... Why not Master Rangers???
I think a weapon cert is a little redundant at this point don't you? If we get high enough level - which usually a MRanger willl, you can basically use almost any weapon in the game or its equivalent. How many weapons do you need? (Ok, ok, dumb question)
I would much rather see AgonThalia's suggestion of Ranger specific specials than a Ranger specific weapon we can only use with the specials from our combat mix. For me personally as a MRanger/MCH I can use almost any wepon in the game but my most used special is placed shot from marksman carbines I. Sad, sad, sad.
Ziege19
Tue May 10, 2005 9:13 am
#11
Vorpaks wrote:
Wyldcat309 wrote:Ok. Master CM's get one.... Master Smuggler's get one.... Master Squad Leader's get one.... Why not Master Rangers???
I think a weapon cert is a little redundant at this point don't you? If we get high enough level - which usually a MRanger willl, you can basically use almost any weapon in the game or its equivalent. How many weapons do you need? (Ok, ok, dumb question)
I would much rather see AgonThalia's suggestion of Ranger specific specials than a Ranger specific weapon we can only use with the specials from our combat mix. For me personally as a MRanger/MCH I can use almost any wepon in the game but my most used special is placed shot from marksman carbines I. Sad, sad, sad.
I'm not sure it would be redundant, since master-specific weapon certs seem to be a feature of the CU. But I agree in that specials are definately far more needed than a weapon cert, imo. Kinda nonsense to master a combat profession and have the ability to use high level weapons and the only thing you can do with them is 'melee attack' and 'ranged attack' for min damage unless you get a second combat prof.
I'd like to see 'em both
I think Ranger should get a rifle cert and rifle skills throughout the tree along the same lines as Smuggler is with pistols.
AgonThalia
Tue May 10, 2005 9:22 am
#12
The weapon certification is an idea that has been tossed around...
however, any weapon cert will most likely favor the ranged or melee ranger.
In order to preserve the diversity of the community and playstyles, a weapon cert would most likely be a bad idea.
Ranger specific specials (or evena trap launcher) might be the better way to go.
In the past, i have really wanted the trap launcher, but as the combat system has changed, i would much rather have ranger specific specials than a launcher (since technically we have droids that will launch traps now)
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