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Thread: Interesting Feedback in the Scout forum...

Nowi
Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:26 pm
#1

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=scout&message.id=7475



Veeerrrry interesting. Most changes are nice, but the Mask Scent change troubles me... apparently Mask Scent will be maxed at Master Scout. I wonder what this leaves for the Wayfaring line, other than crawl speed.




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Nowi A'yka
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rek17
Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:32 pm
#2

This is a ******* ******* freaking outrage!!!

*sigh*



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DShanKaen
Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:32 pm
#3

The mask scent is not a problem, imo. What peaks my interest greatly is the statement that Rangers will retain the Camo skill AND get newabillites to harness it.



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Nowi
Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:35 pm
#4

Oooh, I missed the little snippet about Rangers. Hmm... this gives me some hope, then. New abilities are always good.



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Nowi A'yka
Retired Mayor of Alya'Starn
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StealthNuck
Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:36 pm
#5

Yes, the snippet in question:

"Rangers will retain the Camouflage skill mod and will, eventually, get new abilities that harness it."

Hopefully we will get these new abilities sooner rather then later. If not, we'll be about equal with scouts



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StealthNuck
Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:40 pm
#6

Also:

"- Camp and trap crafting now rewards Wilderness Survival xp.

- Fishing now grants Wilderness Survival xp. You get this xp for catching fish, not trash or loot. The xp reward is also slightly random, proportional with the size of fish you catch."

One can only assume these changes apply to Rangers as well.

Unfortunately it does not look they are working on Foraging, nor will they for a while yet.


My one concern with all these changes is that if Rangers do not also get changes and 'new abilities' at the same time, we will essentially be no better then any Master Scout.



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Chickenscratches
Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:41 pm
#7

Not so bad.



- The chance to successfully mask scent is now modified by your posture and locomotion. If you are prone (moving or not), you get a 15% bonus. If you are running, you get a 10% penalty. If you are walking, you get a 5% penalty.


This will make crawl speed increases more usefull


-Rangers will retain the Camouflage skill mod and will, eventually, get new abilities that harness it.


WOOT !!! What they are saying is that Mask scent will no longer check the camouflage skill but will have it's own skill. And only Rangers will get the camo skill


- Camp and trap crafting now rewards Wilderness Survival xp


That will HELP !!


- Fishing now grants Wilderness Survival xp. You get this xp for catching fish, not trash or loot. The xp reward is also slightly random, proportional with the size of fish you catch.


See above comment about Helping


- Each scout in a group that has loot permissions for a corpse may harvest from that corpse. Corpses harvested in this way yield 60% their normal resources and XP. Leaving the group and then harvesting still yields only 60%.


-The goal is to give scouts motivaton to group and remove barriers from grouping. Since groups naturally kill targets faster than soloing (at least organized groups do hehe), the 40% penalty should be made up for easily.


-This is will probably result in an increase the resources available in the game market. We know that selling resources is an important method of making money as a scout. We will be monitoring the impacts on the market and, if necessary, we will modify the cost of crafting items that use organic resources to increase the demand for those resources.


Good and bad...depends on your point of view. not sure if the crafters are going to appreciate having the resource requirments upped on some of their stuff.


-There isn't a solution for foraging in development right now. I'd like to make foraging more useful and have some ideas on how to do it, but its fairly low priority compared to fixing problems with other professions


Booo..hiss !!!


Well...i hope we get a post tonight for us Rangers but I'm not totally unhappy with what I read on the Scout board.





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Nowi
Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:41 pm
#8

Heh, by the time the Survival exp changes go in I'll be Master, but it is good for the newer Rangers.



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Nowi A'yka
Retired Mayor of Alya'Starn
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XionLion
Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:43 pm
#9

THIS BETTER NOT BE THE RANGER FEEDBACK TOO!!!


If our top issue is RANGERS AREN"T SCOUTS.. then what a slap in the face if our feedback is one line of text tucked into the SCOUT REPLY


::sigh::


Zarn growing more agitated again

StealthNuck
Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:43 pm
#10

"and will, eventually, get new abilities"

It's that 'eventually' part that's really, really troubling me. Makes it seem that the new abilities are quite distant. If so, looks like our Camo skills will be nex to useless...



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rek17
Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:44 pm
#11

LOL, yeah, I just got Frontiering III myself. Hopefully it will make the 4th box go fast. When do these changes go in?



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Chickenscratches
Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:46 pm
#12

How do you think us Bothans feel. Very, very nervous. I made a bothan ranger because we get +15 to camo skill. Well this will no longer help with mask scent, so what exactly are we going to be getting? I've got my fingers crossed.



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-Sunrunner
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The Power Empire -TPE-
http://www.powerempire.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/News.html

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Nowi
Mon Aug 18, 2003 5:46 pm
#13

"eventually".



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Nowi A'yka
Retired Mayor of Alya'Starn
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