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Ranger The New Cookie Cutter Class

They nerf Creature Handlers to NO end , due the lack of foresight on ceritification system for calling pets. The way it is now you need more then just 6 skill points to call out anything above cl 15 yet alone aggressive

Bounty Hunter's all ready have master scout , oh i need tank , scout exp for a little bit poof train novice ch , yield a rancor. Its gone now thank god, they balanced it out across all skill trees.

Now they see Ranger's have a tracking line, guess what folks prepare for an influx of people asking for training in thetracking line.with 20 skill points theycan be just as affective a as master ranger.

NO way is any group ever gonna want a Ranger to track or group if a bh or Chhas tracking 4.

Conceal you say, if it works and isn't detected by a rabid shaupaut.

What do we bring to a group now, oooh fancy camps and traps (scout skills) which everyone already has.

"Ditch Master Bounty Hunter to get Ranger Tracking4/ novice medic? " Sorry but posts like this sicken me and all the hard work thatI have done to get whereI am.

Super Scout I can deal with, now i'm not even that with 40% reductions across the board for harvests.

I've lost burst run effeciency and terrain negotiation. andI get a camo kit for dath , which i can't find resources for.

Stop Complaining some will say, I have a reason to Complain. No group want's me , I'm forced to not wanna group to get hides/bone , I add ZERO to PVE encounters, PVP is a joke OOOH i can track what sign's are around, I'm not a mall directory.

Creature to Hit bonus, as a riflemand with 3-1-1-2, I missed every 1st shot last night at 50m with a new e11 rifle using headshot 3. only to have halfthe creature warp on top of me , at which time i had to swtich to a pistol to stay alive.

PVP. as a ranger rifleman withhigh quality psg/tantel/bone armor using a laser/e11 rifle's now and then i might get lucky if i don't get myself killed from using mind1/mind2/head2/3, (using speed and mind lowering powerups too) yet alone switching to a spraystick.just to be on par with damage out put. and thats in a group, so it's not just me popping of at reb's outside ancorhead.

and to top it all of they nerf the unnerfed t-21, all of which have no resources on my galaxy and haven't since day 1.

I'm going stealh

Gunnar, Novice Scout

Glaza,

Your PA doesn't want to group with you?

That's harsh man.

B

If it makes you feel any better... I'm pissed that I can't be a Master Ranger and a Master Bounty Hunter....

I have a Player Bounty process on my server... check the url inmy sig for info... that makes the Player Tracking skills VERY valuable to me.

I had Ranger for a long time with all of Field Bioscience and Wayfaring lines... ended up giving it up for medic a week ago. Now I wish I had it back....

BUT... since *I* can't be a Master Ranger... I hire them out to track down and find my marks with/for me... I paid a guy 5K cred to locate another player... and would have paid him another 5K to track him till I got there. Plus I love having Rangers because they can conceal me...

Fret not... your class still has value... and because of skill points requirements SOME Bounty Hunters are interested in paying you for your skills.

Excume me but a cookie cutter profession is when someone takes that profession and always the same set of skills to go with it. A bio-enginer/ch is a cookie cutter because it's so common and you don't usually find a bio-eng without CH skills. Rangers on the otherhand have a wide number of applications side from being tied to another one or two professions.

Ranger/rifleman = very viable

Ranger/BH = very viable

Ranger/CH = very viable

Ranger/bio-engineer = very viable

...and and there's alot more there it's a popular combination. Ranger is not a cookie cutter at all, it's just become alot more usefull for anumber of additional professions. If anything it's moving the ranger further from a cookie cutter rather than bringing it closer to one.

My PA is more concerend about PVP atmas most of them are bored with killing creatures

As it stands they are mainly bounty hunters with eye shot, which out damage a rifleman 4:1, I'm working with some of the lower lvl scouts on harvests but they need to be online for me to do that,

I love my PA, problem with an PA, if everyone is On another planet or not online, I'm out of luck, even in a group killing fambaa's i get 356 rifle xp 35 combat xp , even though i fire at it the whole time.

Oh well.

There's already a few posts about dropping skills to get Ranger Tracking 4 in the BH forum. Now the market can be flooded with even more hunt masters (master trackers), oh joy...

I don't meen to bash bounty hunters but I do have a bitter streak with most of the one's i've met that aren't in my PA.
This goes back to the early weeks of the game back when I was a low scout, grouped with other scouts.
Ninja Harvesting, No one harvests it yet there are no hides on it and i didn't harvest.

The bozo Bounty hunter that followed me 128m back east of keren around on Imperial Destory Mission just waiting for me to go Overt.

Of course this doesn't apply to everyone.

I've just had a bad streak in the game lately.
Like the 10 seconds it takes to fire off a concealed shot on 5.7 speed Laser Rifle with 2 in special abilites
The need to pick up ch because of 2.5x melee damage do to warping mob's of creatures.
I do more damage to myself then to the creature if it runs at me, do to changes in to hit if creature is moving
no t-21's
and the bitter fact that im gonna have to unlearn most of ch to get any good with a rifle.

Tal-N

Point is 2 fold , as a Master Ranger: What do I truely give to a group, what is my reason fore being? And be ready for an influx of people waiting training in tracking lines.

Ranger/Rifleman : maybe at master rifleman (i know cuz i am a rifleman
Ranger/BE : ya
Ranger/CH : ya with **edit** near no fire support for creatures (if using rifle) I know cuz I'm also A CH do to weakness in Rifleman.

Just be like me, king of the double gimps and proud of it

Ranger/Fencer

*shrug* yeah, I know I'm not uber and it does piss me off that every one and their brother will have tracking IV within a few days, but I'm still having fun.

Anyway, I understand your points and I agree.

Hey wait a minute.. Didn't Holo say that the issue of us being UNIQUE trumps everything else and is the number one priorty?

Then why did they give us a skill that every BH is going to eventually want in a line that makes us UNIQUE?

aye yi yi... so much for dedication.

even if the BH does this they are still a ranger. A BH/Ranger but a ranger no the less. So if we want these unique class definin abilities. you can't expect them not to be available to other class combinations. That is kind of asking to have your cake and but no one but you can eat it.

You guys want to feel useless? Try playing a ranger/doctor! you complain that you have CH/ranger/rifleman/etc skills? I cant even master doctor and ranger at the same time! I can do master doc and go something like 0 4 3 0 in ranger. That leaves me with ZERO points to do artisan for surveying or any type of weapon skill at all. so when you are complaining bout your TL21 that you dont even have getting nerfed, remember that I have to use a CDEF and have trouble killing2 or 3 kreetles on me. I REALLY dont want to hear it.

Ixiss Chardox

The original poster makes some valid points though. My husband (who has trained up to Hunting4 in the Scout line) and I (who has trained up to Tracking 4 in the Ranger line) killed a mountain squill. I harvested some bone off of it and got 37 (before the patch, I would have gotten over 100 units but I am thinking that it must be lower due to the shared harvesting that is now available). My husband harvested some bone and he got 28!

So here I am - I have essentially 5 more skill boxes trained (Master Scout as well as all the Tracking boxes in Ranger) - and I only get a measley 9 more hides from my harvest!!!!!! Makes me wonder why I am bothering with this profession.