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It's a bit like accepting candy from strangers. Don't do it!

I normally only group hunt with people I know, unless I'm helping polite newbies get some XP, but I met up with a beat-up needy pair over the weekend while camping. They stumbled into my field base, wounded and bloody from a recent encounter, and asked if I would help them run some missions. I wasn't particularly busy with anything else, so I agreed. They told me they had to exterminate a nest of rock beetles.

Well, I knew we were in dangerous country for these two, Dragon Valley, so I told them to wait while I scouted around once we got to their mission point. I found their rock beetles, alright, and a dragonet nest nearby.

"We must be cautious," I explained. "Don't fire until we're in position and I give the signal."

No sooner than say that, one of them comes running by with a dragonet in hot pursuit. I let him get out to 50m and then plant a couple of headshots on the bugger. It drops and I look around for the other guy.

Ask and ye shall receive; he comes running by with two on his tail, one of which decided I look tasty. My carbine proved again that I had made a good investment that day when I cripple it before switching back to rifle to help my now-unconscious new acquaintance. Things are not looking good for these two.

"Stay put!" I shouted and he did. Wookies are wise, if not overly bright sometimes. It must be the hair. Now, where did the other guy get off to?

Meanwhile, the other knucklehead had decided to go back and pound on the nest again with his stick. A stick?! Now I know what JB means about those guys. This guy comes and stands right beside me! Before I knew it, I had mini-krayts all over me and my intrepid companion is sleeping at my feet. Thank goodness for burstrun and hills!

I'm not sure what happened to them at this point, because they apparently needed a trip to the cloning facility soon after waking. Yet another glaring example of how failing to follow instructions can be deadly.

I gave up doing missions with noobs. I would explain exactly what they needed to do and as soon as the action starts I would see them standing right next to a lair blasting away with their CDEF!!.

I've even run over to a noob.......rezed and buffed him for free only to watch him head off and get killed again within 2 minutes (didn't even say thanks). Try telling them to get easy mobs first and watch the grief you get "you can kill it, why can't I? blah blah blah".

Kids have zero patience mine ran out as well

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PetaByte32 wrote:

Yah it can be rough. But you gotta admit the reverse is sometimes well worth it. When your wandering through Mos Eisley and a newb carrying a survival knife and wearing the newb brawler clothes asks for help. Feeling generous you take them on a tour of what to do and not to do. In a few weeks you see him again now wearing really nice armor with a nice PH or Stun Baton taking down mobs like a pro.

PB32

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I agree, did that last week. A noob was chasing us around Mos Eisley watching us hunt stormies before he finally asked for advice. I took him on a tour, set him up with some decent starting armor and some cash and a good rifle and told him to have fun.

He sends me emails every now and then keeping me up to date on how he's doing. Fun stuff.


Plunk

I n00bed it up a couple of times. Sit in Eisley with a novice scout tag on and carrying a CDEF rifle and join the next hunting party forming. Its alot of fun taking on Squills and the like with a group of 10 people, none of which have composite, none have 900Max damage T21s, not one has a glow bat. Its very refreshing returning to ones roots. Hunting with strangers isnt so bad, just have to find the right strangers.

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FourthNail wrote:


I agree, did that last week. A noob was chasing us around Mos Eisley watching us hunt stormies before he finally asked for advice. I took him on a tour, set him up with some decent starting armor and some cash and a good rifle and told him to have fun.

He sends me emails every now and then keeping me up to date on how he's doing. Fun stuff.


Plunk

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I gave a really good rifle to a newb about a week ago and we've tried to hook up since, but he's in the UK and our playing times don't have much overlap. Too bad; he was pretty good and followed instructions well. He'll make a fine rifleman one day.

He's another Wookiee. I know entirely too many Wookiees.

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FourthNail wrote:


Man, all you wookies together has to suck in the rain


Plunk

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I'm not a Wookiee; I just happen to know an awful lot. That wet Wookiee smell really takes some getting used to.

Its not just NOOBs. I have run across an alarmingly high number of veteran players who simply cannot function in a group. Its like hardly anyone has it in their head they should read their chat windows while fighting, or take any kind of care whatsover.

To me there is a shocking lack of group tactics & knowledge in the game. its like 1 in 3 people have no clue what they should do in a group. I guess this is no suprise given the most common invocation of the word 'group' in the game is for people to join a 'solo group. Talk about oxymorons (and skip the oxy part)

Going with groups in SWG scares me. Its the express route to the cloner since it seems no one seems to have heard of aggro management and that maybe they will figure "GEE Maybe I should not run thru 3 Night Sister camps on the way to the Rancor mission spawn" or "gee, maybe I should NOT run up ahead to the next mission spawn and whack on a rancor nest by myself" , and my favorite " oh maybe I should NOT have ran back to the others in my group with a half dozen night sisters and a herd of rancors."

Really my solution to making a SWG group go smoothly is to get everyone in the group nice & TEF'ed then have a Jedi come kill them all quickly and save me the headache.

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Kinshi wrote:
Its not just NOOBs. I have run across an alarmingly high number of veteran players who simply cannot function in a group. Its like hardly anyone has it in their head they should read their chat windows while fighting, or take any kind of care whatsover.

To me there is a shocking lack of group tactics & knowledge in the game. its like 1 in 3 people have no clue what they should do in a group. I guess this is no suprise given the most common invocation of the word 'group' in the game is for people to join a 'solo group. Talk about oxymorons (and skip the oxy part)

Going with groups in SWG scares me. Its the express route to the cloner since it seems no one seems to have heard of aggro management and that maybe they will figure "GEE Maybe I should not run thru 3 Night Sister camps on the way to the Rancor mission spawn" or "gee, maybe I should NOT run up ahead to the next mission spawn and whack on a rancor nest by myself" , and my favorite " oh maybe I should NOT have ran back to the others in my group with a half dozen night sisters and a herd of rancors."

Really my solution to making a SWG group go smoothly is to get everyone in the group nice & TEF'ed then have a Jedi come kill them all quickly and save me the headache.

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That being said, my guild went out kryat hunting on Friday night and took three noobs with us. They ate it up.

Before we left, we sat around in a circle passing out brandy, veghash, stims, etc... and I took time to spell out our strategy. Rifles would hold back at 40m+ with me, pistols and carbines at 20m+ under cover from rifles and should be ready to fall back to our positions should things go sour. Tanks would be in the fray since the two we had were fairly well seasoned.

Only problem we had was when our youngest tank saw a kryat I had passed up and charged it only to find out that ancients are not to be toyed with.

After we got away from him with little damage and many laughs, we charged a juvi for experience. 1/3 2/3 rule, 1/3 planning and 2/3 practice. It worked well and when we hit our first canyon kryat, they knew exactly what to do and we pulled it off really well. Great way to baptise the noobs and build guild cohesion.

When we moved on to the giant, they took a few more hits and weren't fast enough but still learned quite a bit. At one time it was just myself and our BAMF wookie taking it on and we did a lot better than I had thought, I love Ranger terrain negotiation


Plunk

Message Edited by FourthNail on 02-14-2005 02:00 PM

That being said, there needs to be more like you :-), say to teach other that ist NOT ok to run ahead of the group into a room full of Super Battle Droids, then proceed to hit them with a little stick.

I try but my paitence gets frazzled when I witness people with a 'Master' tag doing the same dumb stuff noobs get accused of.

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tekniko wrote:

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FourthNail wrote:


I agree, did that last week. A noob was chasing us around Mos Eisley watching us hunt stormies before he finally asked for advice. I took him on a tour, set him up with some decent starting armor and some cash and a good rifle and told him to have fun.

He sends me emails every now and then keeping me up to date on how he's doing. Fun stuff.


Plunk

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I gave a really good rifle to a newb about a week ago and we've tried to hook up since, but he's in the UK and our playing times don't have much overlap. Too bad; he was pretty good and followed instructions well. He'll make a fine rifleman one day.

He's another Wookiee. I know entirely too many Wookiees.

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Man, all you wookies together has to suck in the rain


Plunk

Message Edited by DaveG on 02-15-2005 09:56 AM