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Thread: Harvesting changes to come
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daslama
Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:19 pm
#1
Notice the patch notes Tiggs just put up;
Harvesting / Resources
The penalty for harvesting while in a group has been removed and replaced with a 20% harvesting bonus when harvesting while in a group.
Creatures will now yield more milk after being successfully milked.
Its been a bountiful season. The success chances of getting mollusks and crustaceans while shellfish harvesting has been increased. Expect to see higher yields from your shellfish harvesting!
Searching a creature lair will have a higher chance of finding eggs as well as a lower chance of finding nothing or finding a jar of bugs. You might also want to try searching the lair again; there might be a chance you missed something!
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=in_testing&message.id=39699#M39699
Harvesting / Resources
The penalty for harvesting while in a group has been removed and replaced with a 20% harvesting bonus when harvesting while in a group.
Creatures will now yield more milk after being successfully milked.
Its been a bountiful season. The success chances of getting mollusks and crustaceans while shellfish harvesting has been increased. Expect to see higher yields from your shellfish harvesting!
Searching a creature lair will have a higher chance of finding eggs as well as a lower chance of finding nothing or finding a jar of bugs. You might also want to try searching the lair again; there might be a chance you missed something!
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=in_testing&message.id=39699#M39699
Message Edited by daslama on 02-16-2005 01:20 AM
Almagill
Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:21 pm
#2
DANG!
I can't even get 1st in my own thread!! Was just posting the very same thing and then thought "oooh, want to just go check there isn't a TC NDA, lol.
So. We'll be seeing LOTS of you over helping to test that this works as it says on the tin, huh???
I can't even get 1st in my own thread!! Was just posting the very same thing and then thought "oooh, want to just go check there isn't a TC NDA, lol.
So. We'll be seeing LOTS of you over helping to test that this works as it says on the tin, huh???
Sinkuu
Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:35 pm
#3
/reads thread
/faint
/revive
/reads thread again
/faints again
/reads thread a third time after getting splashed with cold water
WHOOOOOO HOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
Cango
Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:42 pm
#4
I dont see this as a good thing. Now groups of 20 master defense stackers with novice scout will outharvest us even more than before
/target Dewback
/say g
/sigh
/target Dewback
/say g
/sigh
Sinkuu
Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:45 pm
#5
I understand where you're coming from... I agree that the "remove bonuspenalty at Master" or "give bonus at master" is a better plan... but it's a start, and it's on TC... post that on the TC thread... let them know.
maybe they'll fix it.
Edit: strikethrough
Message Edited by Sinkuu on 02-15-2005 07:54 PM
Cryos_Merovingian
Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:51 pm
#6
Holy cow! that's a major change and I really wasn't expecting it this soon.
While I think this is a big step forward, I much prefer the concept of a "harvest penalty mitigation". Hopefully that comes with a profession overhaul.
Rancorrider4
Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:01 pm
#7
I have to agree with the others on this. I was REALLY hoping that rather than remove it, that there would be a bonus for having a Master Ranger in the group or some form of mitigation as you progress through Ranger.
Ah well....more resources is a good thing for the economy if nothing else.
Good hunting.
Jaxus
Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:28 pm
#8
Lets face it, Rangers are the ones who really kill for profit, even if there are hunting groupd from time to time, we will be hunting more often and regularly. So even if it is a bonus to others it will ultimatelty be a bigger bonus to us
Iseult
Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:46 pm
#9
I've been in stasis for a while, but have dethawed (at least temporarily) because things seem to be back on track again.
While I agree that this change is for the best, I wonder if they will apply the same logic that they used to counter the solo group exploit to this improvement as well.
For example, the bonus should only be applied to people who are in the vicinity of their group. People grouped with some alt 5k away or just a droid or pet should NOT receive this bonus.
Otherwise, people will be able to group with an alt or a droid sitting safely in a city somewhere and still get a 20% bonus. I suppose that we could do this too, but if this change is intended to reward grouping, then being able to group with an alt on another planet somewhere (or a droid or pet) and still get the bonus really undermines the potential of this fix to reward.
Oh, and I also agree that it would be nice if having a master ranger / master scout in the group would have an effect on this bonus.
Iseult
Recently De-thawed Master Ranger
Bloodfin
While I agree that this change is for the best, I wonder if they will apply the same logic that they used to counter the solo group exploit to this improvement as well.
For example, the bonus should only be applied to people who are in the vicinity of their group. People grouped with some alt 5k away or just a droid or pet should NOT receive this bonus.
Otherwise, people will be able to group with an alt or a droid sitting safely in a city somewhere and still get a 20% bonus. I suppose that we could do this too, but if this change is intended to reward grouping, then being able to group with an alt on another planet somewhere (or a droid or pet) and still get the bonus really undermines the potential of this fix to reward.
Oh, and I also agree that it would be nice if having a master ranger / master scout in the group would have an effect on this bonus.
Iseult
Recently De-thawed Master Ranger
Bloodfin
Owen-Lars
Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:46 pm
#10
Good news but kind of disapointed. They have been listening to what we have been posting on the corr boards but dishing out possible ranger enhancments to either the general player base again.
Heres what ive just put up on the corr boards. Im happy there isa change on TC however it could be much better and definatly more justified following the possible routes ive layed out below:
From Corr Boards: Owen-Lars
"The penalty for harvesting while in a group has been removed and replaced with a 20% harvesting bonus when harvesting while in a group"
Although prety good news in general, is there any way this bonus can be tied to harvest mod or perhaps players are given certain % boosts if they have a master ranger or scout in group?
Possible Solutions:
Ranger Help:
Rangers should be the only ones who can increase the harvesting of group members. You have:
Novice Ranger: 5% group harvest increase
Tracking 4: 5% group harvest increase (10% overall)
Master Ranger: 10% group harvest increase (25% overall)
Or
Harvesting Mods:
Use harvest mods or skill boxes to determine harvest increase.
Scout Hunting 4: 5% (5% overall)
Master Scout: 5% (10% overall)
Ranger Tracking 4: 5% (15% overall)
Master Ranger: 10% (25% overall)
Is there any way to change/add these changes? Without taking harvesting mods or harvesting boxes into account it plays far too much into the hands of the stackers for my liking.
Rangers should be the ones providing the group harvest bonus, not random guy, They are the masters of organic collection therefore if grouped with one you should get a % bonus as the ranger helps you, shows you how to perfect your cuts and overall boosts your havesting capabilities.
Message Edited by Owen-Lars on 02-16-2005 01:46 AM
Typho
Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:24 pm
#11
Great ideas Owen. I posted a reply to the actual test center thread and so did another Ranger. Hopefully they will make further modifications to this like they've done for group looting and the galaxy wide vendor proposal.
Preacher-UM
Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:26 pm
#12
2 feelings I am having.
1) Elation at removing a penalty that killed any reason to want to group hunt.
2) Sadness at the fact , that as others have stated, M.Rangers are not recieving a fair shake in this deal.
Solutions/Possibilities
1. M.Rangers could recieve this bonus without being grouped , or maybe a slightly lessened version of it
(for example, if grouped everyone got 20% but a M.Ranger could harvest 15% more solo)
2) This could be signs of a change of direction for the Ranger profession in general. Moving it away from being solely a harvesting profession to something different.
Who knows , I for one do not. But I simply love the profession to much to truly be so totally discouraged by a update to leave it. So dig in boys and girls , we seem to be in for one helluva ride! 
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