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Thread: Well our existance just got worse. The Devs definitely hate us

SolrFlare
Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:50 pm
#1


Why? Well this:



  • Added Creature Harvester Module to the DE skill tree: This module will allow any character to program and control an equipped droid to advance on the look-at target of the player and harvest the resources on the creature. The player can preset the droid to harvest one of the three types: meat, hide or bone. Or the player can just let the droid pick a random resource type.

  • Now, it is important to note, that what is not said there is that you have to be novice scout to use this.


    But, guess what, this just makes our single biggest problem worse. Already,people withnovice scout and combat templatescould out harvest us. Well, guess what, now they can just harvest even more. So can we mind you since we can use the droids. But what the *self edit* point is there in being a Ranger now if life just got even easier for non-rangers to harvest.


    Thats it, the devs hate us, I've lost the last smidgen of hope I ever had for this profession. I've been a Ranger since the begining of this game. That just killed it for me. I'm going to give it a day or so before I actually do it, but most likely, say goodbye to one of the last Original Master Rangers of Chilastra.




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    Solr_Flare

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    Character: Solarius Kerash
    Profession: Master Ranger/Pistoleer
    CatAtomic
    Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:02 pm
    #2

    If the droids use the player's harvest modifier, it makes no real difference. It'll just be a more convenient way to harvest.


    If the droids' harvest rate is determined by the DE's module, and if that module can harvest at levels on par with a Ranger, then I'll be officially pissed off.





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    KaiRaene
    Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:06 pm
    #3

    They had better do some uberbuttkissing Ranger revamping to make up for that crap.



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    FelNuruodo
    Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:29 pm
    #4

    i came here to post about this, but tis already up. This is just... ugh... disgusting?



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    ReptileSpit
    Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:31 pm
    #5

    Before we panic I suggest we wait to find out if the amount harvested is based on a players harvest ability or the droid's own internal ability.


    If it is not based on the players ability, then the loud complaining shall commence.




    AgonThalia
    Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:40 pm
    #6

    Thanks reptilespit...I think that is the wisest recourse.

    before I really get angry... I need to make sure that this is something to be angry about.



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    RoarkeDeArtane
    Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:53 pm
    #7

    yeah maybe they should make droids that can let you have a higher level pet
    JBMat
    Mon Apr 12, 2004 6:55 pm
    #8

    Once again we have been shat upon.


    No other profession has had anything stolen from them.


    Scouts had TN given to Squad Leaders and Combat Medics. Yes, all that leading and healing helps you run hills better.


    Then camps were made useless to placate the whiners.


    We had rescue, argueably our most useless skill, nerfed because we could mess with the uber BHs with it.


    Now DEs can craft a droid that harvests.


    I could say a large number of choice words, having extensive experience with expletives. However, simple words say it best.


    TH doesn't care about us, he is catering to the masses, and we are not the masses. He is more than willing to screw us over to make a larger class happy. He must have gotten wind of our idea that more harvesting abilities would make us happy, and improve the economy, so he took the short way out and will now let anyone harvest.


    Two words TH, and they ain't Happy Birthday.


    JB

    Lonkley
    Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:11 pm
    #9

    The devs left out of the description you need Novice Scout. The module while crafting clearly shows you need it.


    See for yourself

    http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~dspaid/galaxies/pub8/creatureharvestmodule.jpg


    As to what rate, we dont know yet, we'll probably know by morning at latest. My guess is Your Skill + Bonus.... but thats a total guess.






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    Kgboutlaw
    Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:24 pm
    #10

    why don't they make droids that can poison and disease targets, and buff targets, and do stun damage to targets, or use force powers on targets. Oh because that would hurt the professions that 80% of the people have on this game. But they should make the uber professions even better and easier to use right? ugh. I'm sick at home..this is not what i needed to hear.



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    Nemo0
    Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:58 pm
    #11






    JBMat wrote:

    Once again we have been shat upon.


    No other profession has had anything stolen from them.


    Scouts had TN given to Squad Leaders and Combat Medics. Yes, all that leading and healing helps you run hills better.


    Then camps were made useless to placate the whiners.


    We had rescue, argueably our most useless skill, nerfed because we could mess with the uber BHs with it.


    Now DEs can craft a droid that harvests.


    I could say a large number of choice words, having extensive experience with expletives. However, simple words say it best.


    TH doesn't care about us, he is catering to the masses, and we are not the masses. He is more than willing to screw us over to make a larger class happy. He must have gotten wind of our idea that more harvesting abilities would make us happy, and improve the economy, so he took the short way out and will now let anyone harvest.


    Two words TH, and they ain't Happy Birthday.


    JB








    I would like to point out that the idea of a droid that harvests was mentioned in the Scout forums some time back. It was a Scout request to have it added. If it only makes it so that you don't have to do the harvesting yourself, then I don't see it as a problem. Especially if adroid brings in the 60% harvest rule. If it lets people who can't harvest do so or it lets people harvest more than they already do then we might have a problem. But I agree with the wait and see approach. Who knows, it might even be useful.


    Lythender Nirou
    Master Ranger/Master Rifleman
    Eclipse Server




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    SolrFlare
    Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:18 pm
    #12






    Nemo0 wrote:




    I would like to point out that the idea of a droid that harvests was mentioned in the Scout forums some time back. It was a Scout request to have it added. If it only makes it so that you don't have to do the harvesting yourself, then I don't see it as a problem. Especially if adroid brings in the 60% harvest rule. If it lets people who can't harvest do so or it lets people harvest more than they already do then we might have a problem. But I agree with the wait and see approach. Who knows, it might even be useful.


    Lythender Nirou
    Master Ranger/Master Rifleman
    Eclipse Server






    I do agree with you on that, thats why I said I was giving it a few days. Although TH's latest comments I can't say are very encouraging to me either. At this point I'm about ready to give Ranger up, and it hurts for me to say that because I love this profession and have never been anything else but.


    One thing I'd like to point out though, I find it endlessly frustrating that any changes made to scout, or suggestions made to "just change scout", have a direct effect on Rangers as we currently are implemented; yet, we never hear hardly any of it on this board. Yeah I could just read over the scout board too and see it, but it would be nice to see proposals that are so game impacting to scout, at least referenced here.




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    Solr_Flare

    Server: Chilastra
    Character: Solarius Kerash
    Profession: Master Ranger/Pistoleer
    Calculus_Entropy
    Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:36 pm
    #13

    Guys...you need the harvest command to use it. I will test it wqhen I can and report in .



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