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Thread: Well our existance just got worse. The Devs definitely hate us

DeltaXi65
Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:59 pm
#14

Guys,


You guys are being WAY to negative. We have no idea how this is going to be implemented- so don't knock it until Calc and I have had a chance to test it.


I am confident that this is a good thing.


B





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Owen-Lars
Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:10 am
#15


JBMat Wrote:


Once again we have been shat upon.







Rofl you always manage to put a smile on my face.


I wouldnt make ANY judgments atm because like Delta and Calc said not enough testing has been done.


I would expect this feature to be an enhancment to the scouting skills we have. /fingers crossed.



Come on guys now we push for Veghash to be changed to a percentage skillmod increase rather than a skill mod increase. Make it worthwhile for master rangers to use rather than giving us a measly 15% increase at master Using Hash should give master rangers the biggest benefits.

Message Edited by Owen-Lars on 04-13-2004 02:44 PM



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Fred_Skinner
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:42 am
#16

I was going to post on this last night when it was added to test, but I was a tad too"emotional" to be able to be coherant. I'm glad others did notice.


In the descriptions of the new modules there is NO MENTION of requiring the skill /harvest, or having to be a Scout first. There is also a trap thowing module, btw. The impression left is that ANYONE could buy a droid and presto-chango, you are now a Scout. I cannot describe the "emotion" this thought evoked. The discription of the Survey Module did hint that having the merchant skill was required. This did not help matters.


Calc and Delta, please check into this, if this is indeed an omission then they should change the text of the patch update on test at least. If this allows me to harvest at a safe distance (note the sig: RIfleman) this will speed up my harvest and I'm sold. I would also hope that this does not multiply harvest, or we just lost ground to the Scout dabler template who can out harvest use by volume. If this indeed gives abilities to those that otherwise do not have them then I will be cutting a swath through ALL of these forums like none have seen before.


You don't want to see me pissed. It's not pretty.





Frederick Skinner
Antarian Ranger, Ranger(0030), Master Rifleman, CH(4214)
Ranger is not a profession. It's a lifestyle.


Owen-Lars
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:46 am
#17

From the screenshot of the module it says in the decription "allows a scout...........


On a similar note, the notes say the trap launch droid will throw scout traps......... I presume RANGER TRAPS will be compatible too





THORTAC BALCOR
The Lost Ranger
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Fred_Skinner
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:51 am
#18

Never saw the module. They don't have that in the patch notes. If you do not group with the droid, do you get full harvest?



Frederick Skinner
Antarian Ranger, Ranger(0030), Master Rifleman, CH(4214)
Ranger is not a profession. It's a lifestyle.


Nemo0
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:57 am
#19






Fred_Skinner wrote:
Never saw the module. They don't have that in the patch notes. If you do not group with the droid, do you get full harvest?







Calc is trying to test this stuff for us. He has a thread to report his results but there is not much in there yet.


Lythender Nirou
Master Ranger/Master Rifleman
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DeltaXi65
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:58 am
#20

Fred,

C'mon.

Guys, you have really got to get this "the Devs hate us" crap out of your heads. Can anyone give me a conceivably logical argument as to why the Devs would EVER give any other profession the core ability of another profession? Anyone?

You can't. Because they won't. It's completely against their philosophy. Any noob who has been in the game 5 days knows that.

I have been a Correspondent for 9 months. Do you think that I would seriously let the Devs get away with something like that without flipping out on them? Do you remember how quickly I got the harvesting rates fixed when they were turned down after the group harvesting rules were implemented?

Calc and I have had those patch notes for a week. I've asked TH to fix the omission.

You guys seriously need to have more faith in us. I'm almost taking this personally.

B



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Owen-Lars
Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:05 am
#21

Here you go fred


Lonkley Posted It Earlier:


http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~dspaid/galaxies/pub8/creatureharvestmodule.jpg



Look in the description





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Owen-Lars
Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:08 am
#22

Delta Cried :


You guys seriously need to have more faith in us. I'm almost taking this personally.





I always have faith in the job you do, its not the best situation to be in (being a low populated profession) but you do great above and beyond what is expected and thanks for that.


Have no worries


We have faith






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AgonThalia
Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:10 am
#23

Let cooler heads prevail.

In the DE forums, their correspondent has said the the scout ommission was a typo. This will not allow non-scouts to harvest. I cannot see that happening in any real sense.

This will only allow the lazy scouts and rangers to point out a dead critter and let the droid harvest it. THATS IT. I did a lot of research before I wanted to post. I cannot support the idea that the devs hate us. Thats just crying victim and martyr. (and its not something that we rangers do well anyway)

If the droid ENHANCES the harvest...for example, if a DE creates a harvesting module that adds #'s to my harvest, then cool, I will buy a droid and use it. If it only takes my mod and harvests exactly what I would harvest, then I wont use it.

Lets try to be productive and get out of our self pity.

I dont mean to be harsh....but these posts are way too dramatic without facts to support them.



Draknev
The Last Ranger Correspondent
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JarJarBakes
Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:36 am
#24

I still think its all crap. While they are at it, why not make a droid that will heal and buff me while I solo fight a nest a dragonets?


THEY WONT BECAUSE THAT WOULD IRK THE DOCS!!!



Rangers are becoming less and less of an individual class. Look at the combat to skill ratio. The Master Ranger can (still...it may change seeing as how things are going) out harvest any other class. However, we cannot kill as many animals as quickly as a Commando can. So, if that Commando has novice scout, he can easily match what a Master Ranger can harvest on any given solo hunt excursion.And now, if he brings his droid along, he doesnt even have to slowdown to harvest.


If you devs are going to take away our class specifics...at least bump up our combat skills!!



MAKE US SPECIAL TOO!!!!






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retired...postin cuz I can! COME TO THE WoWSIDE for REAL PvP!!!


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DeltaXi65
Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:57 am
#25






JarJarBakes wrote:

I still think its all crap. While they are at it, why not make a droid that will heal and buff me while I solo fight a nest a dragonets?


THEY WONT BECAUSE THAT WOULD IRK THE DOCS!!!


Um. They did.


Added Stimpack Dispenser Module to the DE skill tree: This skill allows a player with Pharmacology IV to load up a properly equipped droid with Stimpack A's. Once loaded, any player within the droid master's group may issue a /requestStimpack command to receive healing.





Guys, I told you I'd have TH fix the test notes.


He did.


Now will you believe me?


http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/recent_test_updates.jsp?page=In%20Testing


B





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Owen-Lars
Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:04 am
#26

sorry bit off topic.


But i love that stim a feature. /requeststimpack lol what a great idea.



What did i say?

We have faith?

Damn right i did



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