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Thread: One Angry Master Ranger
Let me start by saying I NEVER normally post on these boards as I consider them a total waste of time. With that said let me start off by saying that I can't believe that people are getting paid for the level of garbage that has been put out with this patch. DOES ANYONE TEST THESE PATCHES??????? or for that matter think????
who ever thought it would be a good idea to include flora resources to the camo kits was majorly having a bad hair day... did it ever cross anyones mind that Rangers have NO ABILITY to harvest raw organic resources???? So I guess now we will have to go out and either buy harvesters and set one on every planet in the galaxy OR pay crazy prices on the market for the organic resources.. Check the bazarrs guys its already happening. I am just glad that I spent so much time mastering a class that is now pretty much worthless other then for setting up camps for other character classes. It really is a shame I must say. I wont even go into /areasearch it is not even worth discussing other then saying at master ranger level you can track building signs... I guess that is so we can find the stores selling the organic material at rediculous prices. Or better yet the rangers that have artisan and are charging rediculous prices for the camo kits. I hope to god someone with at least HALF a brain reads these posts and will at least research these issues. Oh yeah and by the way thanks for changing the resource requirements on the High Tech Field Base kits......
HIDE on a High Tech Field Base .... WHERE THE HELL DO YOU SEE ANYTHING MADE OF HIDE IN THAT CAMP?????
Felinea FIrestorm
Master Scout/Master Ranger/ Master Creature Handler
i do agree to a point.. i think it is lame that we cant forage for flora ourselves!!! and once surveyors realize how dependent we are on the woods and things we ar gonna get nickle and dimed to death..that is what i think is unfair and bs... i hope it will be adressed...like i said in another post we should be able to forage for EVERTHING we need.
"Let me start by saying I NEVER normally post on these boards as I consider them a total waste of time."
Well that's an interesting way to establish an opening rapport with your readers; thanks for the resounding vote of confidence. In spite of your shouting, ranting, and complete ignorance of the fact that the Ranger Forum community is an extremely level-headed one that is right now seeing its own suggestions put live in the game, I'll respond to a few of your points.
Prices for the flora resources we need for the camo kits are probably high right now because every ranger in the game wants to try them out. I'd put decent odds on the prices subsiding into a small but reasonably priced niche market as time goes by. In addition, conceal is much more of a group-oriented ability anyway, so we can easily put pressure on groups that want us to conceal them to help provide or pay for those uncommon resources. We still have +100 Maskscent to use when on our own, if camo resources aren't available.
As for bugs with /areatrack, every big patch goes live with bugs. They get fixed. Chill.
Regarding the use of Hides on the HTFB: make up your mind! The previous schematic called entirely for NON-ANIMAL resources. You complain when camo kits need mechanically harvested resources, and you complain when a schematic that was previously 100% mechanically harvested resources is changed to include a resource you can collect on your own. Which way do you want it?
the changes bring a lot of promise to teh Ranger class... sure they arnt working all the great but give em time to fix it... Rome wasnt built in a day afterall
"did it ever cross anyones mind that Rangers have NO ABILITY to harvest raw organic resources???? "
just because you have no artisan skill for surveying doesnt meant all rangers dont... and if you dont then work a deal with someone who does... I am guessing you harvest hide/meat/bone (IE things that artisans need)... so trade for some
I wont say I like it (as I actually have no artisan skill)... but making us a bit dependant on another class isnt really a bad thing if they are trying to encourage group play
One on hand, you're saying we have to buy flora and that's bad. On the other you say there is no hide on the camps and that's bad. I say it's good because I don't have to buy polymer anymore, and a lot less metal. Almost 50% less metal than before.
-- YP
Why don't you join Test Center and make sure changes like this don't go through testing? You can complain as loud and as much as you want but if you don't like some of these changes then go enforce your opinion on the test center.
Complaining and big mouthing the devs cause they release it while you don't like it really doesn't do you any good.
Nowhere does it say these changes are final and it's upto us to voice our opinions in a way thatit's actually useful to the DEVS.
Ahhh... finally, the Ranger forum has turned into every other forum... bashers and fanboys. Nothing in-between.
The new additions are buggy. Conceptually they are pretty cool and will work very well, but as things stand the way things work and how they are made to work just doesn't make it "fun" for most people. Why can't rangers stack their traps and camo kits? Why must I have 3 full bags on my character? My BH doesn't need 200 slots for material... why does my Ranger? I am doing more work getting my Ranger ready for one xp mission, with friends, thanI do writing term papers. I have to make camps and enough camo kits for the people in my group, but before that I need to buy the resources for those things (some that used to cost2 or 3 credits per unit, are now going for 20 credits per... I'm not wealthy).
With yesterday's patch I officiallyarrived at"I'm not having fun anymore." I guess it is time to either stop playing my Ranger for a while (until things change) or to change his class... or to just go and play my other toons (on other servers). I was having a ton of fun as a Ranger, up until yesterday. I guess I expected the new additions to make the class even more fun, but they did not, at least for me. Things just become more of a hassle.
Anyway, I'm sure some fanboy will tell me off and some basher will think that I am on their side.
well i think it's good...
having to go round and talk to people.
i sell a lot of my hides and bone's to people and i have more cash then i know what to do with.. so i think this is good
stops rangers being a 100% solo class
I am not a master ranger and never intended to be. I have 4230. Yesterday, all point of my having ranger skill was lost. I understand some of it is bugs, and some of it is intentional. However, wayfaring is absolutely pointless now. When I went out in the wilds yesterday, I felt the same way I did when I was working on novice scout. Mask Scent...now drops like a dress on prom night. Before I got master scout, I could use mask scent and crawl up to a harvester that was surrounded by shaupauts. Now, with wayfaring 4, 100 skill in mask scent, I cant sneak past a non agressive nuna without it dropping. It even drops for creatures 70+ meters away now. And it seems they have shortened its duration even when it stay on. It used to stay 10 to 15 minutes at a time. Now it's lucky to last 5. I dunno. It's just a big change to go from being able to navigate through a group of reds with no problem to having to swing by them at 90+ meters. To top it all off, my wife has exploration 4 and it works just as well as wayfaring 4. Go figure.
Maybe its this way now to force us to use camo kits? Hahaha... I made two kits yesterday for naboo. It doesnt seem to work for more then 2 or 3 mobs, and a gnort can get it to break, while your not moving, lying prone on the ground. I'm not happy. I'll hold onto the skills for a few more weeks, but then I am likely to drop Ranger.
As far as camo kits resource cost goes: I have a nice deal where I share lots and hides with an architect friend of mine, in return for inorganics and flora. However I know many folks do not have such an arrangement. I don't know what prices are on other servers, but even before the patch, bazaar Flora units run 8 to 10 cpu, and now after they can be as high as 20 cpu. I dont expect a big changed here. Maybe +/- 5 cpu after things settle. Either way, its too much. Flora harvesters are one of the least expensive harvesters to run. less then 1cpu in most cases.