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Felinea, I understand you are a bit frustrated...but those of us on these boards have really taken alot of pride to have a section (the Ranger forum) that tries to stand out above the rest. Lets try to keep it that way. There are better ways to "Talk" about the problems you had about the patch before you go and rip the devs on it.

If you are a Ranger...you know we had nothing more then a master scout prior to this...at least they are thinking about us and know we need more. Give them time to get it to us.

I agree with Ricbr. Lets not go blazing the Dev's or anyone else. They are paying a GREAT deal of attention to us, and bearing in mind what they just rolled out, it won't be long before we get other things like the specific /track ability.

This board has always been the elite of the forums, just like the Rangers are the elite of the professions. Lets keep it that way eh?

Well, i don,t disagree with having flora ressource... but make it less specific, for god's sake.

The Rori kit needs HARD WOOD!!

Not Rori flora. Not even Rori wood. But Rori HARD wood. Before this patch, how many players in your galaxy were harvesting Rori Hard wood you think?

This is not a **edit** super laser gun, it's a camo kit.

Well........I have no idea what you guys are talking about, butthis patch wasthe best I've seen yet!

My camo kits have been amazing as far as putting them on other people and the resources for the High Tech Kit are fine by me.....just makes them harder to get, therefore the gamebecomes more interesting.

Tracking is buggy, but i have very high hopes for it and that is just what the ranger class needed.

As for Mask Scent.......I have wayfarring 4 and nothing detects me still, I go thru red MOBS comepletely stealth.

Plz don't start yelling NERF and fix!

Rangers are the cool guys & gals, lets keep it that way

A Fellow MS/MCH/Ranger

Filinea, I share your pain. I see great potential but, like my father said, "potential" is polite for "currently worthless". (LOL - kinda joking here - we are far from worthless)

I see the issues in 2 ways:

1 - Being a 'ranger' indicates a degree of self-sufficiency. This patch kinda destroyed that for me but could be fixed by allowing us to use a special floral survey tool that could easily be implemented. Maybe this tool would simply scan for the localized woods we need and nothing else. We could then 'collect' it at a very low rate equivalent to survey I. That is one fix but I'm sure there are others that would work as well.

2 - I don't use /conceal that much anyway. If my group wants it, they can hunt down the resources and I'll be happy to /conceal and pull or /conceal one of them. Caution is our best tool and that is done at the keyboard. /maskscent just helps a bit for those times where we 'need' to get closer to a creature to avoid a humanoid agro camp with range weapons - hehe. As a master ranger, 1:20 chance of having /conceal break too close to an agro NPC camp is not worth the risk (unless I am going inside the camp for another reason) as I travel.

In any case, I don't like the component requirements but it's a carrot to me anyway. /conceal is not at all why I chose the ranger and therefore doesn't break it for me. Other larger issues still need attention IMHO - this is just a trinket skill.

Bearsoul
Master Ranger - Starsider
House of the Rising Phoenix (AGM)

Not saying that any point is invalid. However, it might be better to buy a floral harvestor. While on Explore missions I run into "harvestor forests" all the time. Plop the harvestor down and see what is available. Power is getting cheaper 'cause it's plentiful. When the prices come down to the point where mantainace is more then the floral price then you can buy it

I don't think a personal floral harvestor is out of range of most of us. If any of you are on Eclipse I may know someone willing to sell you one for the price of a few missions.

did it ever cross anyones mind that Rangers have NO ABILITY to harvest raw organic resources????

HIDE on a High Tech Field Base .... WHERE THE HELL DO YOU SEE ANYTHING MADE OF HIDE IN THAT CAMP?????

So you could forage for metals to make a HTFB before this? I couldn't. Bought all mine on the bazaar.

I think the new changes are cool, but very ineffective.

1st we have the camo kits: Too little charges, too many resources... and I had to blow 15 points on novice artisan to survey for flora all day today. They are also not much better than masked Scent. Masked Scent also breaks a lot more, and seems to have no noticeable change between ranger and scout for effectiveness.

2nd the camp schematic changes.... cool I guess, but as far as the camp looks go, petrochem made more sense.

3rd area track... Please, it is a good concept but ineffective. First we have to stop for 20 seconds and slow down anyone with us. Secondly it is minimized to 50 because we are not allowed to track specifics. Thirdly we are limited to tracking with 500m (which is semi ok). And last but not least at all, the direction stated is vague, and unupdateable because it is not a "specific" track.

4th - **edit** is up with harvest... I still am getting no more in quantity than a Master Scout.

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DOES ANYONE TEST THESE PATCHES??????? or for that matter think????

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Have you been on the test centre? I spend a whole staurday in Coronet working on a brawler and during that time there was only a maximum of 5 people in the city at any one time. That gives you an idea of just how much 'testing' goes into these patches. I looked on the bazaar for the whole planet to get some clothes.... only 7 items for sale. Needless to say i think that the TC is a complete joke and a waste of bandwidth.

You think it's hard making a camo kit? Try being a doctor and making buffs, area stims, poison medicine, disease medicine, etc., all that stuff, and use it on others.

Wow, so you do a tiny bit of work for the team, big deal.

You can always go solo and be invisible now though!

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I hope the person who said nothing is set in stone in this game is wrong. The game is very new but if the devs do not find a point in the near future where classes are relatively stable there will be huge issues to deal with and that is not a understatement. The worlds are awesome but I for one do not want to learn to fear the patches and updates as we did at one time in AC. They need to make changes that work and leave the class alone unless it absolutely needs to be changed. If they could not roll out things that worked why do it at all. God knows SWG does not need more pieces that are broken.

**edit**, I was happy to see hides in the FC...and getting rid of polymer. I thought the dev's actually improved the concept behind camp building.

well i must say i too am infuriated with the devs. i worked hard getting master ranger with the promise that they will make our class better. i couldnt wait until the changes went in. then we get this pile of garbage dumped on us. do they really not care at all about the quality of their product or do they think we are too dumb to notice? i have thought about switching to other professions but as you look around the boards you can see that just about every profession in the game is broken to some degree. im tired of playing beta quality games and will not encourage companies to put out trash by paying them so i can test. i am cancelling my account and bidding the rest of you rangers good luck.

Waylander Master Ranger (retired)