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Thread: /maskscent + /conceal useless after patch ?

EttaBrummi
Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:11 am
#1

Hi everybody


I'm just curious if this happend only to me.... Once the servers were up again, i decided to go a bit hunting outside our city on Tatooine. As usual i used /conceal once leaving the city. Everything went fine until a few cannibal dewbacks (only CL20 !) spawned in front of me and my /conceal disappeared like ice in the sun.


Ok, i thought that can happen and went to to Bestine, there are a lot of kreetles (CL3 but aggro). I /conceal-ed again and started walking around. Guess what happened: it only took seconds for the kreetles to break my camouflage ...


Did this happen to anybody else ? If yes, is this some kind of new 'feature' ?





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Dyraak_Sinh
Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:29 am
#2

I haven't done too much since the patch, but my maskscent seemed to be working fine.



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Atanmir
Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:32 am
#3






EttaBrummi wrote:

Hi everybody


I'm just curious if this happend only to me.... Once the servers were up again, i decided to go a bit hunting outside our city on Tatooine. As usual i used /conceal once leaving the city. Everything went fine until a few cannibal dewbacks (only CL20 !) spawned in front of me and my /conceal disappeared like ice in the sun.


Ok, i thought that can happen and went to to Bestine, there are a lot of kreetles (CL3 but aggro). I /conceal-ed again and started walking around. Guess what happened: it only took seconds for the kreetles to break my camouflage ...


Did this happen to anybody else ? If yes, is this some kind of new 'feature' ?






I went on endor and used /conceal, i rided with my speederbike from samuggler outpost to research one, conceal never broke even if i driven on every single lair/red spawn i saw. I got 5j scouting xp only for drive a few minutes.


Then i went back to Theed, masked and driven to my new city 9600m away. My masckscente never broke (i got the wearing off message when almost at home) but i got aggro from almost any of the few reds i have found in my path (mostly rawls i think from the sound of theyr attacks).








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Mynroe
Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:52 am
#4

i went to dathomir with my bio engi to sample from bull and mutant rancors. my concealbroke every couple of minutes, as did my conceal on him. I attributed it to being on speeder bikes, which basically shout ''HEY LOOK AT ME!!''


I did notice an irritating bug which i reported, where creatures would just randomly aggro me without breaking conceal. Noone is fighting so it's not a group aggro transfer thing. It just decided that it wasn't going to check against my concealment and agged. Not fun. Not fun at all!




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NRaas
Wed Dec 17, 2003 8:19 am
#5

"Did this happen to anybody else ? If yes, is this some kind of new 'feature' ?"


I have been reading several posts in the Scout forum regarding similiar issues with /maskscent...



  • Though it appears to be about the same percentage of the community that were having troubles prior to the patch as well.

There could be something wrong, but since I don't play on Patch Day, I have not testedthe skills outmyself.


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Prior to the patch, I did test /maskscent against kreetles and received a 93% success rate (213 checks)...



  • Considering I was running that is darn close to where the rate should have been (actually higher than I initially expected ).

I suspect there is something else involved in the issue than a straight failure of the skill itself...



  • But I don't have a clue what that problem might be.




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JumboFett
Wed Dec 17, 2003 8:22 am
#6

My conceal never broke. I was still concealed as EVERY SINGLE NPC ON TATOOINE attacked me!


I guess that the devs figure we don't need to hide since our speeders can outrun the NPCs




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Culdor
Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:14 am
#7

I was using conceal and mask scent last night and didnt notice any big differences. Likely just a string of bad luck and since it was patch day one gets a bit suspect


Cul

Natebacca
Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:50 am
#8

I had the same bug yesterday in the squill cave while solo. masksent did not break but a group of squill hunters agroed on me and chased me out of the cave.Didnt relize it was a bug will report it if it happens today.



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Squidwalker
Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:47 pm
#9

Well I didn't try using conceal yesterday but I did run around Tat with mask scent. I didn't have it break as much as you, but I did have a kreetle break it twice, but that would be about 2 out of 100 kreetles I passed. I used to have kreetles break my mask scent all the time before the really got it fixed. Never had a problem after that, ever, so those 2 breaks were a surprise.



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weaponmaster88
Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:50 pm
#10

i think being on a vehicle reduces the affectiveness of conceal and maskscent by likr 90%. my mask scent broke against kretles like 8 times on the ride to tusken. while i was on a mount it broke about 2 and while i run it hardly ever breaks at all.



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JBMat
Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:43 pm
#11

Both worked just fine for me. Just ran a test on Talus on red aggros, nothing.


Used maskscent to pull single torturs, worked there too.


Dunno what to tell ya, mayhaps you got a run of bad luck going.


Did you check to see if there are any rasps following you?


JB

NRaas
Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:23 pm
#12

"i think being on a vehicle reduces the affectiveness of conceal and maskscent by likr 90%."


Quite possibly those sly developers linked success rate to the physical speed of your character in the game system...



  • I had thought it what was simply associated with the posture of your character (crawling, running, walking), but maybe not.

Hmmm...





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Akitt
Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:52 pm
#13

I was getting scout xp at the Squill caves before patch... i could walk around getting xp and mask would only break after about 1 our of 30 times. But they wouldnt agro unless i started running around. Post patch i was unable to mask scent against anything in the caves. 100% agro from every squill i came across... about 40% would attack me for no apparent reason while my Mask was still functioning. This has to be a bug... even the Kreetles were all over me.
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