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Thread: Why a Ranger? Nothing going for it.

Legulad
Tue Jul 15, 2003 7:04 pm
#1

Hi,


Just to start off I love playing Rangers. In EverQuest, Baulder's Gate ect ect I played a Ranger. Now my question is, why wouldyou want to become aRanger in this game?Let's just pretend for a minute that the Ranger class isn'tbroken and all skills workto perfection. Now why would you want o become a Ranger? I have looked at the skill tree and it doesn't look good at all. What do Rangers have going for them? They don;t get any combat skills at all, meaning if you were going to Master Ranger you have to Master a combat skill too, not to metion mastering the Scout skill. It just looks like a Ranger is an upgraded Scout. But if there is anyreason to play a Ranger please please let me know. Also what good is trapping animals?


Thanks

Tsion
Tue Jul 15, 2003 7:44 pm
#2

I would suggest you check out the thread next door entitled "Concerns about becoming a Ranger". Lots of good information in there.



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Segolas
Wed Jul 16, 2003 4:56 am
#3

Before you guys scream for tons of stuff for Rangers, try to remember you are getting what you pay for here. The biggest investment in this game is not in the skill points, but the brutal grinding xp. Compare the XP you need to be a Master Ranger to say what you need to be a Master CH or Bounty Hunter and you will see what I mean. Second box skills for Rangers are what? 20k Scouting xp? Pretty sure second box skills for a CH are like 54 or 57k....
BobaSkerry
Wed Jul 16, 2003 9:03 am
#4

A huge misconception with traps is what they do. They are DEBUFFS basically. It seems to be the scout/ranger little secret. I have had folks tell me I am exploiting, some have said WOW how do you do that! Well. . they are traps. They don't trap animals. In fact I dont know of one trap that traps an animal to take home. (Creature handlers do I guess but not scouts).



Traps in a nutshell are your debuffs. Snare, Root, Defense Debuffs, Attack Debuffs... They do WONDERS in many cases.




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SirCaleb
Wed Jul 16, 2003 9:13 am
#5

The are more than just debuffs ... some traps do a considerable amount of damage too.



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Sir_Voor
Wed Jul 16, 2003 9:55 am
#6

Legulad,


It sounds like you think SWG uses a Class system and not a skill/class hybrid system. your character can be a master ranger/master rifleman/surveyor or a master ranger/master swordsman/pistoler, the options are enlist.


So yes Rangers don't have combat functions, but they do have skills that help in combat. in other MMORPG terms forage will get you buffs and traps will de-buff animals but not humaniods. camps will heal most wounds, and can runfaster then non-rangers.I would not call that nothing!








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Tsion
Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:29 pm
#7






Segolas wrote:
...Compare the XP you need to be a Master Ranger to say what you need to be a Master CH or Bounty Hunter and you will see what I mean. Second box skills for Rangers are what? 20k Scouting xp? Pretty sure second box skills for a CH are like 54 or 57k....




Warning! Warning! Apples and Oranges Comparison in Progress!!


OK, anyway, never compare one profession's skill boxes with another profession's skill boxes if they do not use the same type of experience points. In this case we're talking Scouting experience points vs Creature Handling experience points. They DO NOT compare straight across because they are earned at different rates.




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Nedreck
Thu Jul 17, 2003 1:36 pm
#8

Well Camping is certainly one of the most boring skills to raise. I'm about 6k from Frontiering 2 (Woohoo fieldbase) I actually bought a second dvd player for my computer room TV to help pass the time.



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Gargs
Thu Jul 17, 2003 2:43 pm
#9

Camping is boring, but I try to use it to make my traps and camp kits and stimpacks while I'm waiting. Of course I'm still a Scout and the XP requirements are not so harsh, but still you get the idea. Anyway, I think the trick to camping is that it truly isn't meant to be powerleveled which is why it seems so bad. There is no way to powerlevel it, your only option is to grind it out. However, its one of those skills that will take care of itself if you just go out and hunt/explore, etc. instead of just running missions or running back to town after every couple of fights. The beauty of the Ranger class is that you can go days and days without ever having to go back to town. But it just sucks when you're trying to get to Master Scout/Master Ranger and really need the survival XP.

Btw, this post was by no means meant to denigrate anyone's playstyle, so please don't take it that way. Everyone of course is entitled to their own playstyle.



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NerfBurger
Thu Jul 17, 2003 2:53 pm
#10



Segolas wrote:
Before you guys scream for tons of stuff for Rangers, try to remember you are getting what you pay for here. The biggest investment in this game is not in the skill points, but the brutal grinding xp. Compare the XP you need to be a Master Ranger to say what you need to be a Master CH or Bounty Hunter and you will see what I mean. Second box skills for Rangers are what? 20k Scouting xp? Pretty sure second box skills for a CH are like 54 or 57k....




Just to clarify!

When you take down a big creature it may give you say 600-800 xp in your chosen combat profession, but only 180 scouting xp. Also a CH gets anywhere from 400-800 CHxp per tame.

That is why the ranger skills take much less xp. Period, its called balance.



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arch_ang3l
Thu Jul 17, 2003 3:21 pm
#11

Why do I play a Ranger? Cause I want to. I don't care about combat benefits, pvp advantages, etc etc etc. I just think the ranger class sounds like fun to play.


But that's just me. I think too many people pick their class based on what's gonna be uber and ultra powerful. I pick what I think would be fun.

MattGag
Thu Jul 17, 2003 6:49 pm
#12

I agree, in EQ and other games ranger is defined as something very differnt then it is in SWG. I never, EVER played a ranger in those games because it didn't seem fun. But i like the way Sony made them and thats why I play them




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MattGag
Thu Jul 17, 2003 6:51 pm
#13

I agree, in EQ and other games ranger is defined as something very differnt then it is in Star wars galaxies. I never, EVER played a ranger in those games because it didn't seem fun. But i like the way Sony made them and thats why I play them




Trife Stampede

Marksman/Brawler/Scout

Pistoleer
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