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Thread: I need your help and opinions

BioEngine
Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:31 am
#79






Owen-Lars wrote:

Ok i hate to say this, but i need to make a poll heh. Yes i know, i know but honestly its important. I need to show the devs exactly how much negative impact the CU is going to have on ranger and why ranger needs their revamp asap.


Its going to be part of my report that im writing atm explaining why so many of us are pissed, upset that we didnt get any attention and how concerned we are about what is geing to happen to ranger between the end of the CU up until the ranger revamp hits.


So i put it to you:


In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?

Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?

Is it only temporary until the revamp?


Please answer truthfully about your current plans.


cheers, owen





No. Nothing anyone can do will make me drop Ranger. And, I intend to Master it.


Because the first enjoyabl thing that I did in this game was hunting with friends. I enjoy the abilities we have, even if they are miniscule in comparison to others


No, it is not temporary. I finally found a template that can work for me - Teras Kasi Master, and Master Ranger.





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Stamina
Combat_Medic_to_be
Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:37 am
#80


Well I'm not a ranger atm but have been seriously thinking about it for quite some time. Thought I'd post my views too.


In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?


I certainly wont be picking it up.


Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?


The HAM, or lack of it, is a big issue for me. I'm going to take CH on my new toon and if neither CH or Ranger get a health bonus ranger will be one to go simply because scout gives me all the ranger skills, except area track, but to a lesser extent. I will take up CM instead of ranger if the HAM issue is not resolved.


This is all on the basis that creatures are changed back to the current system, with thier set stats rather than altering their damage output based on your level. It is also based on the grouping level system being changed back. If these 2 items aren't addressed within a month of the CU going liveI will be leaving SWG.


Is it only temporary until the revamp?


If the concerns I expressed above are addressed I will take up ranger before the revamp, if the HAM issue is not addressed but my other two concerns are I will post pone taking ranger until more is known about what the revamp will bring. It would have to bring alot to the proffesion if ranger is still gimped by 1k HAM though.



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JascoSmlee
Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:33 am
#81


In regards to the CU and the information that has come out (or lack thereof), will you be dropping ranger?


I will see how things pan out first. Things don't look too good for Rangers thus far though.


Why are/arn't you dropping it?


I am willing to give the new system a shot and give the Devs the chance to iron out the remaining bugs/oversights which no doubt will be present. I will try my hardest to remain a Master Ranger after the CU. However, if it no longer becomes fun and I find that I am severly limited in my gameplay options, then I may have no choice but to pack away my camp, hang up my duster and retire from this 'lifestyle' I love


Is it only temporary until the revamp?


Revamp you say?!? As long as it's not renamed an 'upgrade'!




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Phoenix7083
Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:52 am
#82


Well, I'm quite new to the rangering profession (only been at it for about a week or so, currently 4-4-4-0 -- going to master -- along with my elite comb. prof, Rifleman). I figured I might as well post what I'm going to doin regards to the CU withmyranger character, Ikira of Naritus:


In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?


  • No, I do not plan to drop ranger in any way (i.e. I plan on staying master whenI reach it)

Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?


  • As to the why (for those curious and for just pure polling purposes) I created my ranger character, Ikira, based on the same philosophy that I have created all of my others characters with: roleplaying first, mechanics second. I figured that if I was truly going to have fun with this game and it's various unique professions I would like to partake in, I would consider why I wanted a certain character to be a certain thing. For my ranger, Ikira, I wanted to template her as a ranger/rifleman because I wanted to play as that type of character, without having considered the in-game mechanics on the effectiveness of such a character. I asked myself"WouldI like playing with this character even if she wasn't the most useful, 'uber', and rich character?" In short, I created my ranger with the fun of being a ranger/rifleman, not being the strongest/richest/etc. in mind.In summation, due to thisI will not now, nor do I ever plan on dropping this profession as my character would just not be who I created her to be and had fun playing as.


Is it only temporary until the revamp?



  • Doesn't apply, I'm not dropping it.





As an important side note, although I do love being a ranger (as plainly stated above) I do believe that the profession is in dire need of a long-overdue revamping. Yes, I said I'm perfectly fine with at least playing as a ranger, but I think that we would like to see some positive changes to a profession we already love (not only to keep ranger-vets happy, but to also introduce an element of appeal to a future generation of loyal rangers). So, I don't think the CU will have an impact on me being a ranger still, but I think that the Devs and such need to address some issues, at least in statement, to the loyal players of a confirmed "die-hard" profession. Just my 2 creds on the topic


....oh and I do hope that input helped




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Titan2000
Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:15 am
#83





In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?

I will mostly likely drop the camping and trapping trees in ranger as they serve no use atm I may yet drop it alltogeher as hunting high lvl mobs is almost impossible without two combat masteries in your template.


Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?

To invest 140 skill points into a broken profession is to much of a burden to bear in the new combat system. I would make a better harvester as a novice scout and 2 elite combat masteries.


Is it only temporary until the revamp?

If I am waiting anymore than 2-3months for a revamp i will most likely cancel my accounts or barring that the revamp being a poorly attempted fix.







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Sunsplitter
Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:38 am
#84




In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?


No


Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?


Ranger is all I know, but Ranger is becoming nothing at all. Sadly, if that is the case, I see my SWG days coming to an end. No more hunts. No campfire stories. I'm sure some other profession will soon be crafting camps as well.


Is it only temporary until the revamp?


Revamp? Oh, that thing that was going to happen years ago? What a slap in the face, after all the hard work that has been done on these forums. Shame to the devs.






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AndySoft
Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:20 am
#85

In regards to the CU and the information that has come out (or lack thereof), will you be dropping ranger?

Probably won't be dropping it. If I do, I will be only doing that for FS boxes, which I don't grind at all, so they grow 1 box in a few weeks if that. Eventually if it's gonna be really bad to be a ranger, I'll try my hands at going for the Jedidom, but PVP is something I absolutely despise so who knows.

Why are/arn't you dropping it?

I really like being a ranger, like the harvesting, the tracking (even though it's a terrible implementation), the camping, trapping is meh. However I find it really sad that Novice Scout can harvest close to what I harvest, there should be a linear increment with a big bonus at the Master Ranger box. I know we get +60 now, but it doesn't work very well, a Novice Scout has +15 harvest right, well if he gets 15 something off a creature, I should get 150 something, but it's nowhere near that. So all those points are wasted for no advantage in that area, anyway I like being a ranger for the pure RP reasons and camo kits too, but those will only take me so far. However, I won't quit, but as long as I can have more fun doing other things than ranger duties, well I will only keep the title for RP and cause I like having it. Even though Droid Commander is growing on me, and might change my permanent title to that Getting harder and harder to get me out of space nowadays, especially with people offering very little for resources, or people needing tracking promising a payment and then log without giving it to me. Seems our time and services should be free.

Is it only temporary until the revamp?

Heh, been playing SOE games for a while now, so not holding my breath. I would be happy to be proven wrong and get a revamp in a few months (few does not mean 16 or something silly like that) but honestly we are just kidding ourselves with that. Sadly, the ones who want to make it a great game, are rarely in charge of what goes into the game. Whether we like it or not, the game is run as a business, money talks and if somebody in there projects that it doesn't matter if they lose all rangers, because the movie will bring in enough players to compensate for those people, that will be it.

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dhelia
Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:53 am
#86

In regards to the CU and the information that has come out (or lack thereof), will you be dropping ranger?


No... Since I started playing this game I was master musician/master swordsman. It was a long, difficult decision to decide to drop musician for ranger (yet another strange pairing of professions!), but I realized that I was having more fun hunting for friends than I was occasionally mind buffing people. (Mainly with all the buffbots that had both master dancer master musician I couldn't compete.)


Why are/arn't you dropping it?


Right around the same time that I decided to switch over to ranger, my boyfriend created an armorsmith character. With how hard it is going to be to kill creatures to begin with, it will be even more difficult to gather enough creature resources. Unfortunately with the crappy HAM deal we're getting, even with master swordsman I doubt I will be able to hunt on my own to collect resources for both the armorsmith and for the other crafters in my guild. My guild is very good about getting groups together to go gather high quality resources for one another, so hopefully we'll be able to still do that after the CURB. I'm not like other rangers in that it's a solitary lifestyle thing... I'm more social and like to do things that help others out.


Is it only temporary until the revamp?


This will really depend on how things work after the CURB, and also on what the revamp is. I'll give it some time... if it gets to be too difficult for me to supply my guild with resources then I'll drop ranger and go back to musician.



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Pale-Toraus
Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:58 am
#87

Pale-Toraus
Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:01 am
#88








In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?

Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?

Is it only temporary until the revamp?






Not precisely what you are asking, but I have an unfinished char that I desperately wanted to make a master ranger post CU to help a good friend of mine who is planning to go bio-engineer.


Based on the ridiculously exobinant SP cost of rangerr relative to all other professions now, not to mention the lack of health granted relative to other combat professions, I find myself unable to do this. This is definitely going to impact my play style and the fortunes of both my friend and our guild.
Pale-Toraus
Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:02 am
#89







my apologies for the extra postings, I'm not sure how they occured

Message Edited by Pale-Toraus on 04-11-2005 02:07 PM

SeanBlader
Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:40 am
#90

The problem with hoping for a fast revamp is that Smugglers are already in the pipeline, they were supposed to get theirs with JTL. Entertainers have been destroyed by the CU, they need to be fixed. The Combat upgrade will be getting balanced for a few months too. They'll be adding content for Kashyyyk.


I don't see Rangers getting started on a revamp for at least 6 months after Episode 3, and then it'll take 3 months to actually implement. I'm probably being generousso the timelinemay be later than that.






Owen-Lars wrote:


In regards tothe CU and the information that has come out(or lack thereof),will you be dropping ranger?

Why are/arn'tyou dropping it?

Is it only temporary until the revamp?






I have already dropped it I'm affraid.


I left because I wanted to be more effective in the GCW, and more helpful with more opportunity to interact with my guild, that just doesn't happen when you're out hunting, by yourself, for Rori Avian meat, for weeks on end.


I could come back but the requirements are steeper than ever. Rangers need:



  • purpose in the GCW

  • PvP functionality

  • to be the best in the game at creature hunting, not just harvesting

  • And most importantly to stop being looked at as an obstruction to the future of the game.

As it sits right now, all the Ranger skills could be consolidated into scout and the skill points would be about right for the effectiveness of the abilities. It's unfortunate, I love Ranger, I've gone back andmastered it 4 times, but as it stands, the return on investment isn't nearly worthwhile.





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TomedNor
Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:41 am
#91



Owen-Lars wrote:
So i put it to you:
In regards to the CU and the information that has come out (or lack thereof), will you be dropping ranger?
Why are/arn't you dropping it?
Is it only temporary until the revamp?
Please answer truthfully about your current plans.
cheers, owen





1. No
2. I've been interested in the game for a while, and after reading a bunch of reviews and a cheaper price, I finaly decided to get it, and I got it so that I could play Ranger. That's what sounds the most fun to me, I mostly want to explore, and Ranger is best suited to that. Also, player vs player (in an RPG anyway) isn't all that exciting to me (this may change after the CU) so ranger again fits with PvE play the way I like to do it.
3. I can't answer what will happen after the revamp. I'm new anyway, so I'd rather spend the time with my main character then fiddle in the test center. I'm paitent, I plan on waiting until I've played on the new system a while to see what happens. I won't give up Ranger, but I might make up my mind to not get involved in PvP at all.
(Upon first getting the game, my plan was to work my toon up to the point where a bunny rabbit couldn't beat him up anymore, then start PvPing... now, I'll have to see how the CU goes. I might end up as a hermit sitting out in the bushes making extensive use of cammo and burstrun. I want to be a ranger, but I have to combat to hunt, and I might not be able to combat as Ranger.... well, I'll see what happens. If the worst fears of the most paronid people on the forums comes to pass ( ), I might quit Ranger, or possibly the whole game...)



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