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Thread: Next Question for TH?

Hammur_Grond
Fri May 07, 2004 4:08 pm
#66


1) Traps must work against Creature Pets! For them not to is retarded.


2) Gain Traps that affect people


3) The ability to harvest multiple organics from one creature.


4) Better Stealth vs Player Characters




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GraySeven
Sat May 08, 2004 7:14 am
#67

I like the idea of a Ranger specific "Hunting weapon", but as far as what to ask TH....


Make camps more useful.


Fix AreaTrack.


Fix Conceal so that a Flit can't unmask my Master Rangerly-ness


Make trap use faster the more skilled you become...I'm tired of getting trampled by fambaa while going throught the entire "throw trap" presentation...


Make me so Uber that BH's and Commando's start crying "Nerf the Ranger!"


Okay, that last is unbelievable, but hey, a Ranger can dream.....





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KaiRaene
Sat May 08, 2004 8:48 am
#68

I havent read thru the entire thread but I was just wondering has anyone thought to ask TH what his vision of Ranger is? I mean.. we have our issues, wants and demands but I wanna know what he would like to incorporate/change about our profession that would fit into the combat balance/future of ranger.



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Nemo0
Sat May 08, 2004 9:05 am
#69






KaiRaene wrote:

I havent read thru the entire thread but I was just wondering has anyone thought to ask TH what his vision of Ranger is? I mean.. we have our issues, wants and demands but I wanna know what he would like to incorporate/change about our profession that would fit into the combat balance/future of ranger.






I'm starting to think we might actually get an answer to this one. If we ask





"Several months back, we were told that the Dev vision for Ranger was that we were to be the Ultimate Creature Hunters. In response, the community put together the Outdoorsman proposal to show that a similar vision could provide a profession much more worthy of the title of Ranger. What is the current Developer vision for Ranger? Given the new focus on the GCW and the newly announced cert for Rangers to wear Mandalorian armor, Rangers are wondering where they fit into all of this."





then TH would find it quite hard to give a vanilla response while still answering the question. It is risky but it might be worth taking that risk. The worst that happens is that we learn nothing. At best, we might actually get an answer to the age old question on the boards.


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KaiRaene
Sat May 08, 2004 9:11 am
#70

I agree. And please oh please someone teach me how to quote. This HTML style BBS has me cornfrusled. Any walkthroughts? Anyone?



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SeanBlader
Sat May 08, 2004 9:38 am
#71

I'm with Nemo0.


I only fearTH willreply with a "What do you think your vision should be?" reply.




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DarthDominus
Sat May 08, 2004 3:17 pm
#72






SeanBlader wrote:

I'm with Nemo0.


I only fearTH willreply with a "What do you think your vision should be?" reply.







I really am counting on him being smarter than that. I mean, we have the mention of "outdoorsman" in the question itself. Even people that couldnt care less about Ranger can see we've already given him a vision. We just wanna know what the "DEV" vision is now.






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Nemo0
Sat May 08, 2004 5:10 pm
#73






DarthDominus wrote:





SeanBlader wrote:

I'm with Nemo0.


I only fearTH willreply with a "What do you think your vision should be?" reply.







I really am counting on him being smarter than that. I mean, we have the mention of "outdoorsman" in the question itself. Even people that couldnt care less about Ranger can see we've already given him a vision. We just wanna know what the "DEV" vision is now.






That is my hope as well. But he might be able to get out of it anyway. As far as the questions go, I think we will need to wait a bit before we see anything as TH is going to E3 (a big games conference) this week so I don't think he'll have any chance to do them.


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RohmEnari
Sat May 08, 2004 8:59 pm
#74

We as a community seem very capable of coming up with great ideas as to what we want this profession to be about.


We have expressed our vision in the form of the Outdoorsman.


We have all had great ideas such as the Stealth Proposal, Curing/Tanning the Meat/Hide, One with Nature, etc etc.


We continue to throw out great ideas in the face of adversity and the idea that we won't be getting any real attention for months, but we have never been given anything from the devs to focus on. We go from one idea to the next. Too many ideas seem to get lost in the many months we have been patiently awaiting our turn.


My proposal for a question is this.




TH, the Ranger community has worked together in the past to come up with great ideas and visions concerning the Ranger profession. We often work best when we have a goal in mind, something tangible we can agree is worth the time and effort involved. Of all the ideas submitted to you, can you inform us as to which of those ideas would be best worth our time to develop? Something that the developers have a great interest in but lack the time to work on it themselves? We need something to start a discussion from. A starting point. Can you provide this to us?




While I know that can be worded much better than I just said it, the point is that we need something to focus on. We need to know what point A is so we can get to point B.




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Ether_Sunrider
Sat May 08, 2004 11:14 pm
#75

I think RohmEnari is dead on. I /sign for asking his question, that way we can actually work on some REALISITIC possibility for an enhancement to our profession in the following publishes and int he form as the elusive " Correspondent Issues" dev time mentioned by TH.


Personally, i also think that we can ask that question andALSO make pressure for them to raise our Creature Harvesting MOD. It doent seem to be too difficult to alter some numbers in the code doesnt it?. They did that some month ago when they raised all the state defenses and accuracy mods on all combat professions, so i guess it wont take too much "dev time" to alter our harvesting mod code a bit. Lets say an +25 for a Tracker and an additional +65 for Master Ranger?. That would give us an extra of +70 Creature Harvest MOD. If u add that with some BE +30veghash and a 110 Creature harvesting droid ....That itself would make the Master Ranger title worthwile. And while thay are at that, they can raise a bit our Melee and Ranged defense, the current +10 is ridiculous. How about a +25 on each?. I think asking them to raise some stats of ours is much more realistic than asking them to make new camps, new weapons or even stealth. Its not that i dont want these itmes , its just that they already told us they aren't going to give it to us sometime near, so we better ask for soemthing that they havent said "no" yet.




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KaiRaene
Sun May 09, 2004 4:42 am
#76

I can understand the need for us to work on something but when it comes down to it they will use our outline to build their own changes into the profession. I dont want our question to be: TH, whats our assignment tokeepus busytil you finally revamp Ranger?


On second thought, I would love to know what their ideas for the distant changes to Ranger but I would really believe they havent given much thought to it since they focus on the things on the schedule. Smuggler, Squad Leader and the Jedi Revamp. Besides other content. I think this answer will be met with some vague answers.


Perhaps, concentrating on getting that Harvesting increase into the correspondent hotfixes in the future.Perhaps thats what he was making reference to while answer our last question.





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Cohen001
Sun May 09, 2004 8:03 am
#77

Just ask if the ranger revamp will arrive before hell freezes over and if he has a date for hell freezeing.



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DarthDominus
Mon May 10, 2004 7:20 am
#78






KaiRaene wrote:

I can understand the need for us to work on something but when it comes down to it they will use our outline to build their own changes into the profession. I dont want our question to be: TH, whats our assignment tokeepus busytil you finally revamp Ranger?







My concern is he will actually give a response to this ....but... later after we've put the love, effort, time, and everything into yet another fleshed out proposal - it will sit and collect dust like the outdoorsman. Worse yet, if we see changes happen ...but they include very little or nothing of what we work out amongst us as a community.


That would be more than disappointing.






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