Ranger Archive

The decision to make a formal PA is up to the organizers in each galaxy. On Valcyn, we have chosen not to be a formal PA (primarily, due to the expense and secondly, because many interested members are already members of other PAs). Anyone can join the Valcyn organization as long as you are a ranger.

I'm sorry if the organization name offends you. If SWG decides that the name is unacceptable for use (as they have for many canon names), I'm sure that in time they would step in and require us to change our name (as they have many other organizations).

The degree one roleplays the game is a personal choice. There are many of our members that chose to roleplay. There are others that do not. We are an all-inclusive group whose experiences and techniques run the range of playing styles. You can consider us an IC organization or an OOC organization, although with our current structure, we're more an OOC organization than an IC one (evidence: we don't meet, most of the interactions with fellow Rangers are on the meta/OOC-level and not IC, etc.).

You can call us "touchy-feely", but we're just a group of PLAYERS (not characters, mind you, but players) that are willing to help each other. We bring members' gameplay concerns to the awareness of the Ranger correspondent. We're here to make each other's playing experience enjoyable and positive.

I have met Rangers who are Imperial, neutral, and Rebel in my wanderings, and for the most part we have helped each other. I have even come against another Ranger in PVP, in that situation we saluted each other and and proceeded to combat with no hard feelings on either side when it was over, we have even hunted together since then.

I have very much enjoyed being a Ranger, I have found that we seem to treat each other with a level of respect that I was quite franklysurprised to see. As Ikoru has said we on Valcyn don't have a formal PA, but sort of a looser group that supports one another. The fact that we are Rangers is more important than our faction or other affiliations.

So if you see me say Hi,if you need help let me know.

Grrail

Master CH / Master Ranger (Antarian Rangers of Valcyn)

Thank you Z! Nuff said.

Wow!

Just because you decided to use the Antarian Ranger name to form a neutral P.A. does not mean that people cannot Roleplay an Antarian Ranger the way George Lucas designed them!

I like what you guys did by forming a cross galaxy P.A., but that is pretty arrogant to think that you have some rights to the name as a organization that doesn't even follow the cannon just becuase you thought to use it first.

If someone wants to be an Antarian Ranger in the spirit of how they were originally created by Lucas there is nothing you can say against them.

Zkull, I sent you a PM. Let me know.

Nice Z, that's exactly what i was trying to say, it just didn't come off right, but haha you got it so i'll just agree and say 'ditto'. As for the others, Vaclyn has a good plan, kind of an unofficial official AR guild, ppl recognize that the group exists and doesn't need the PA hall or name to be a part of it. and for those who are hardcore rp, kudos to them they're living the SWG experience to the max, rebs vs imps all the way, as for the others who play a slightly looser game and play with the opposing faction instead of targeting them 24/7 kudos to them as well. everyone has their own way of playing witch is what makes the game fun. as for me i'm willing to play with either imp or reb, im neutral myself i haven't chosen a side, but i'll keep on being moderate in the GCW even after i have. just because i like the idea. as for those who feel that the AR should be rebel oriented only, that's your decision, true the name IS owned by Lucas, but this game was made so we could mold our own experience, so if you feel like making the AR all encompasing, cool, if you feel like rping and keeping it reb that's ok too, the players will decide for themselves. it's all a game, so what you do is all cool.

"I wish you folks would find your own PA name if you decide to go a different route than what the AR guild dictates."

"We found the name first, we liked itand we took it!!"

I am sorry, but those statements, disclaimer or not,sounded as if they implied rights and/or ownership.

PerhapsI read too much into them...

My point is: If someone wants to start a guild called the Antarian Rangers that follows the cannon, that they have every right (and possibly more) to it as you. You should not attempt to disuade them in any way.

Bare in mind, Lucas Arts may decide to strip that name from your guilds at any time, as that is the only entity with true rights to the Antarian Rangers name.

(This post is not directed at the previous poster, just the situation in general)

The problem is not the use of the name per say. People can use what even names they want, when these same people say they are part of Zkulls Antarian Rangers (like trying to get forums on Zkulls web page, comming to Zkulls AR PA hall for meetings, calling Zkulls rangers for credits and to help them when they show up on Ahazi) then they are representing themselves not just as Antarian Rangers but rather as Guild members of Zkulls AR). I personally dont care if people in other galaxies call themselves Antarian Rangers till there faces turn blue, I also dont care if they kill Darth Vader for breakfast, Thrawn for luch, and ol' Palpatine for dinner. What I do care is about it that this same person comes into my PA hall on Ahazi and expects to be treated like a visiting dignitary and full member, all the while hating me and my Imperial brothers and sisters on their server. They want to be part of Zkulls vision and benifit from Zkulls work in setting up an intergalactic PA but want to do it there own way. Im cool with people doing things there own way, but they need to stop representing themselves as part of the AR that Zkull created. They can go on being AR for all I care but they need to keep there arses out of the AR Pa hall on Ahazie. And out of Zkulls forums.

I am an Imperial, I am an Antarian Ranger and I am an Officer on Ahazie. If you dont like Zkulls AR form your own and leave usalone (and I dont care what you call it). But dont expect that we are gonna look the other way and pretend that its cool that our toons would be shot on site in your PA hall and welcome you with open arms into ours. It makes me sick.

The one dude said he was anAntarian Rangers and did not want anything to do with the PA, Im cool with that but for all those people that try to have their cake and eat it too, well you guys can stick it. Your AR and ZkullsAR may have the same name but you are not the same group, so quit representing it as if itis.

The AR that Zkull created is NEUTRAL! It is Rangers first, faction latter. His offices includeimperials and rebels, and we all get along. The AR chapters thatfall under Zkulls AR (IE come to our meetings, have forums on our webspace) should also be neutral or they need to go there own way. (they can keep the name, its not mine to give anyway)

I for one and not going to stand idely by and watch Zkull vision distorted out of some desire to roleplay. Any of you rebs ever buy armor or weapons from an imperial? If you did your not Roleplaying, every sell to an Imp? If you did your not roleplaying. I honestly cant say I have never bought from Rebels or sold too rebels, on one or two occassions we roleplyed this and did it all sneaky it was fun, however if you guys want to be all uber about it you need to be all uber about it, and in the strictest roleplaying sense you guys would not want anything at all to do with Zkulls AR because it has been tainted by the dark side.

As a matter of fact I bet you guys would want to create toons on Ahazie and just hunt us down as betrayers of the vision, but I'm hoping for too much there I know.

But for all of you that dont likeZkulls AR being neutral you can kiss my ATST!

Ki_Gu_Lonsaid:
"Just because you decided to use the Antarian Ranger name to form a neutral P.A. does not mean that people cannot Roleplay an Antarian Ranger the way George Lucas designed them!"

Did you miss this part of my post?:
"I know that when the Jedi come there will be some who will help them and there will be some who won't depending on how much they are rping. However, I also know based on the character of our members, that we will work that out amongst ourselves in a mature fashion that will work for everyone."

Uh-huh, I can see where you got the impression that I am forcing people to not rp.

Ki_Gu_Lonsaid:
"that is pretty arrogant to think that you have some rights to the name as a organization that doesn't even follow the cannon just becuase you thought to use it first.

If someone wants to be an Antarian Ranger in the spirit of how they were originally created by Lucas there is nothing you can say against them."

Missed this too?:
"While I cannot control what happens on other galaxies,"

Yea, that sound like I'm claiming rights to the name alright!
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The point I want to get across to any potential peeps that are thinking about joining an AR guild, is that they may not all be created equal. Be sure they follow your gamestyle before committing yourself. The galaxies that started the AR guild met in a multi-galaxy meeting and based on that meeting decided how we wanted it to run and who we wanted to include. We don't dictate faction and we don't dictate rping. We are simply a "Rangers First" guild.

The fact that we diduse the AR name for the PA does give us the right to defend ourselves the same way any other guild would defend their name.

And since I am the Ahazi leader, when I see someone proclaiming to be an Antarian Ranger and is making comments not consistent with the PA, I will make sure that folks know that not all galaxies follow that route and that we differentiate ourselves from those comments.

If I am to be the lone voice, then so be it , I will take the flames for it.

Ah Theo, my loyal comrade!! Although I do appreciate all the accolades and do admit to being the culprit to getting the ball rolling, there were many Rangers across several galaxies involved in the actual creation of both the ideals and policies of the AR. That is what makes this organization so unique - the fact that mutliple glaxies came together with a common goal and were able to hammer out this PA.

And that is why I feel so strongly about defending it, because it was such a historical moment for SWG Rangers. The fact that so many Rangers felt/feel the same way I do makes it that much more important for me to keep our original intent clear.

I was lured to this PA not because of the potential for RP, but because i saw the inherent character of someone who would take up a profession such as Ranger when there was no serious money to be made, no serious need for them in a group hunt, and no niche for them in the storyline.

All my encounters with Rangers on the Bloodfin server have shown me the higher level of integrity and class not found in most other professions. Typically, Rangers are not greedy, train for free, and will drop what they are doing to help a fellow Ranger/Scout, regardless of standing or faction. Even if i came across someone who spit in my face, like a few of the posters on this thread would, i'd say "i'm sorry you don't agree with our principles, but if you ever need anything, don't hesitate to ask".

Here is a copy of the flyer we send to potential recruits:

[History]
The Antarian Rangers were a group from the Extended Universe, founded to assist the Jedi Knights. Explorers, Infiltrators, and masters of the environment, they fought in the Clone Wars with bravery, valor, and skill. Many were wiped out during Vader's Jedi Purge, but some managed to survive.......
[Purpose]
1. Share resource information, so everyone knows what's currently in demand, and where it can be found.
2. Hunt in groups to acquire these resources.
3. Sell organics to crafters for the best prices possible.
4. Explore the Galaxy, and share interesting sites, and locations.
5. Provide training and advice to fellow Rangers.
6. Provide guide, camping, and tracking services to hunting groups and other guilds.
7. Maintain the level of pride and dignity associated with the Ranger profession.

[Requirements]
1. Must be at least a Novice Ranger (Master level is only required for Leadership Positions).
2. Members are strongly encouraged, though not required, to wear their appropriate Ranger title at all times.
3. Guild hunt participation is never mandatory, but strongly encouraged. You will not be kicked for inactivity (although you can lose your leadership position through inactivity).
4. Respect of other players in general, especially Guild members, and fellow Rangers.
5. Both factions are welcome, but Factional Affiliations are left outside of this Guild. Attacking other members without their consent is forbidden.
6. Guild dues and donated lots are not required. We want to create and environment where guild members WANT to help out rather than being FORCED to help out.
7. Members are Strongly encouraged to read the Ranger Profession forum on the main site on a regular basis. There is a lot of Ranger information to be found there.

Participation in any guild activity is never mandatory, and i re-iterate that fact often. As long as an <AR> member upholds purpose #7, to me, that's all that is important. Rebel or Imperial.

And Zkulls right it does work. My best friends in the game are Rangers, and some of them are Rebels. I would, and have, placed myself in harms way for these fellow Rangers, and they have done the same for me.

Do I do the things that Imps do, like raid Anchorhead from time to time, yeah I do. And when the Jedi come unless they are under the protection of an AR member I will probally end up shooting one of them as well (Ranger above Faction). I have non-AR friends for all this, I RP being an Imperial when I'm with them, I dont have to be an Emperor lov'n Reb Hat'n bad guy all the time, most of the time I'm not. I have been invited into several Imperial guildsoften with credits and positions to go along with the invite. I turned them down, why? Because even though I shared faction with them there is IMHO no organzation that better exemplifies the concepts of honor, teamwork and leadership than the AR.

There are MANY MANY ops to roleplay and the leadership of the AR understands, I have never been scolded for raiding anchorhead or any of the other evil things I do from time to time, because I have never tried to make it an AR thing, My point being that you can still achieve those faction goals if you want to, the AR understands, the leadership understand, if you care I understand as well.

The thing about the Jedi, honestly guys the more I think about it the less I am even concerned, I betcha that there are gonna be so many people lining up to kill/help these dudes that it will be a mute point anyway. Besides what if the FS in an Imperial? Well I tell you one thing, if that Imperial Jedi swings that lightsaber at one of my AR brothers or sisters he/she will just have to kill me as well.

Yesterday I decided that my second class was going to be weaponsmith, so with great reluctance I laid down my LLC and began the long grind to master. Many people might have been suprised at how many of their fellow PA members would come forward offering credits, resources, and any assistance they could give to help another PA member reach their goals, I was not supprised, I have come to expect that the members of the AR will support me, as I will support them. And the offers were plenty, from the top to the bottom.

Dudes you just cant beat that! No conditions, no well..Ill do this but you must do that..just Rangers helping other Rangers!

There is a reason why the AR is a very large and very fast growing PA, not just on Ahazie but everywhere. The reason is nobility of purpose, qulaity of leadership (and not just Zkull, we have great leaders in seveal chapters) and a deep felt desire of commradery and community amoung the members. We support each other and have a lot of fun.

I know I meantioned Z a lot in the other days post and it was not my intention to slight any of the other members that contributed to the AR vision. I salute each and every one of you. And as you can see by Z's latter post he always gives credit where credit is due, the oversight was mine not his.

1 thing that I would like to say for the Record, one day I am certain that some enterprising Imperial will decide to make and Imperial/Neutral branch of the AR, when that day comes that person has an ENEMY in Theo, I believe in the Neutrality of the AR, I believe in its visions and if the threat to that neutrality takes the form of a Rebel or an Imperial I stand ready to defend the AR to the best of my ability, be it in the forum or the battelfield.

/salute

Theo
MR AR

Woah.

A ranger/weaponsmith?

That's... a combination I haven't heard of before. That's cool!