Ranger Archive

Thread: Idea for new SL skills, Any rangers have a problem with this?

OmegusNeo
Wed Nov 05, 2003 9:39 am
#40

/bump because i still need more imput



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BaneShee
Wed Nov 05, 2003 11:12 am
#41

OmegusNeo,


Thanks for floating this idea, and as a ranger I think this idea is great. We already have a certain portion of the Ranger community who want Rangers to be more effective in PVP but my opinion is that no matter how much we want to, we cant be all things to all people.I indorse the idea of allowinga SL to fortify a Ranger camp. If a Ranger wants to be a Military style Ranger with PVP benefits then they should spend points on SL. I hope our correspondent NRass reads this and will begin working with the SL correspondent on getting this implemented. Make It So ....
Alfgand
Wed Nov 05, 2003 11:17 am
#42

I also thank you OmegusNeo for coming here to post this.


I do not agree that SL's should be able to make a fortification. Sorry its to similar to a camp. Rangers have enough trouble justifing there place in the world as it is.


However I firmly believe in working together as others here have suggested.


A Squad Leader should be able to fortify a camp. The higher level the camp the better the forifications. The higher level the SL the better the fortifications. The best would be a Master Ranger camp (Not in existance yet) forified by a Master SL.


This way both professions gain.


A SL in the camp should boost even more the defenses.


Commandos should be able to add turrets


Most classes should be able to enhance the top Ranger camp. It would benefit all.


SL's should be able to boost a groups speed. But add a Ranger and the SL should be able to boost it even more since he has a super scout and the Ranger should add stealth to the group BUT these bonuses should be only able to be tranlated to the group THROUGH the SL's skill.

Doremar
Wed Nov 05, 2003 3:03 pm
#43

If I were you guys I wouldn't worry. Squad Leaders aren't even in the running to have changes made. This camp idea is very much on the outer rim of forming ideas and is only vaguely referred to in the September correspondant report that remains utterly ignored to this day.


Squad Leaders will be lucky to have an ability fix in the next 6 months, much less completely new abilities.

Agathon
Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:13 am
#44

I think this is a great idea. Remember what Rangering was like before /areatrack? And we had decent camps then. The SLs are all but absent on my server, and I would like to see them be one of the more sought-after professions. This would help a bit.

I really, really like the idea of encouraging SLs and Rangers to work together. Giving SLs the ability to fortify a camp (and have it not poof during a fight) is great. All large battles could have a TOC (Tactical Operations Center), defending which would add a great deal to teh tactics of PvP. Zerging the enemy is much tougher when you have to consider your supply lines, your TOC, whatever. This sounds very cool.

Thanks for coming here to post the suggestion. Part of being a leader is consensus-building. You are clearly a natural for the role of SL.



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Rancorrider4
Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:06 am
#45

/agree Sha'mad


As I stated in the thread suggesting droids be given the ability to track/enhance Rangers' tracking/give non-Ranger's tracking ability, I disagree with another profession being given a Ranger skill. It will only cause us to be diluted further.


There is a reason that Ranger's were given an entire line of camping skill. It should remain here. I certainly appreciate Omegus running this by us, but I have to disagree. I think it was Sha'mad who pointed out that the SL abilities should fortify/enhance the group he is leading, and not the Ranger created camps themselves.


Apologies for being the vocal minority, but I heartily disagree with this suggestion.


Regards,




nppmaHamus

o Galactic Geographic Explorero

Master Mountain Climber


OmegusNeo
Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:17 am
#46

big thanks to all ranges for submitting opinions, this has helped me to expand on the idea and i think i have developed a proposal that i think we can all be happy with.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=squad_leader&message.id=8197


the above is the address for the new thread, the proposal is not the first post, just scoll down a bityou cant miss it.




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KiloCharlie7
Fri Nov 07, 2003 3:53 am
#47

After reading about the new politician class, rather than any fortifications and such, why don't they allow squad leaders in a FB or HTFB to grant the Stronghold bonus to everyone in his group. No mess no fuss no need for any fancy kits, the ranger provides a field base and voila SL grants a huge bonus to attack/defense.



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OmegusNeo
Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:19 am
#48






KiloCharlie7 wrote:
After reading about the new politician class, rather than any fortifications and such, why don't they allow squad leaders in a FB or HTFB to grant the Stronghold bonus to everyone in his group. No mess no fuss no need for any fancy kits, the ranger provides a field base and voila SL grants a huge bonus to attack/defense.





the problem with that is the ability is completly dependant on being grouped with a high level ranger. and while SL are desided to be group supporters our class is in such a state that we have nothing worthwhile to offer a gorup.


you should be aware that our profession is completly broken and a major revamp in desperately needed. we are basicly waisting our skill points on boxs that do not work.


the last thing we need is an ability that is 100% dependant on someone else. i really do support the cooperative efforts of SL and ranger how ever i also what us to be able to opperat independantly as well. i have no problems with a SL walking into a FB or HTFB and making it fortified with out the need for additional fortification graphics, however i still want us to be able to use our fortifiaction with out a ranger presant.


i still stand by the claim that fortifications would be a powerful addition to the SL profession with out taking anything away from the ranger profession, in fact by working together fortificaitons would make ranger camps much more importaint to the SWG world.


if you still disagree please tell me why




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OmegusNeo
Fri Nov 07, 2003 9:20 am
#49






KiloCharlie7 wrote:
After reading about the new politician class, rather than any fortifications and such, why don't they allow squad leaders in a FB or HTFB to grant the Stronghold bonus to everyone in his group. No mess no fuss no need for any fancy kits, the ranger provides a field base and voila SL grants a huge bonus to attack/defense.




i forgot to ask, what exactly does politican have to do with this?



How do you improve the entire game, and one of the more useless professions at the same time? Well this is a start: Help Support the http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=squad_leader&message.id=10609>Fortification Proposal
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