Ranger Archive
Thread: Mass exodus prediction
Puck_Starfire wrote:
Ojay, I read the blog and I must admit it's vague at best. I think people are jumping to conclusions. You may be right, but you may be wrong. While they did not list Ranger (the only professions they specifically listed were docs/cm's), I still haven't seen them say that Rangers are not getting the bonus. I say test it out when Ranger is unlocked, give the CU some time for them to fix the bugs(it could actually be a bug), and then start jumping out the tenth story window. At this point, with the CU being out only a couple days, I think it's pointless to get this uptight about it.
Right now, Scout skills give no health bonus. Several weapon professions build off of these Scout skills. Maybe Ranger does but it seems odd that the Scout skills that other combat professions build on do not.
Another thing to think about: Rangers have been asking about the health bonus since the change was announced to the alpha team. The fact that they are specifically avoiding that question worries me. It's not like we are just sitting around waiting to hear info on the health issue. We are asking for communication and they are "listening". Communication goes both ways.
Right now, Rangers are getting the shaft when it comes to anything in this game. We will be less combat ready than most combat players (whether or not we get the health bonus, this is true). A Novice Scout currently can harvest 46% of what a Master Ranger does (yes, I'm including the recent increase). Groups won't usually want us because we are not as useful in most cases as a stacker (only our harvesting bonus and tracking really helps here but missions now scale to the group level so tracking is less likely to be used). Solo, a stacker should easily beat us in terms of CL killed per unit time. If we can kill a CL 25 in the time it takes them to kill a CL 50, we will easily be outharvestedwhen soloing (I seem to find that a CL 50 drops a lot more than twice what a CL 25 does). You no longer even need Master Scout to see the challenge ratings (they are listed right on top of the con indicator).
On top of this, there really isn't time to do any sort of a Ranger revamp during the CU (unless they throw another team on this but I would have hoped for at least some discussion by now if they were doing that). At best, they might be able to throw us a few bones. Basically, Ranger needs a revamp ASAP. But we haven't seen anything at all about this. Other professions in line for a revamp include Smuggler and Squad Leader, both of which are seeing stuff in the CU. Smuggler even has had some discussion with the Devs. And yet we wait. It worries me.
are you f'ing serious?!?!?! that makes my blood boil. i...am.....starting......to.....feel.....a....strange....warmth....within......a.....yearning........for......DEV BLOOD!!!!!
shilo2 wrote:
Yes i have started a thread in the CU forum...it seems that alot of people consider ranger a "non-combat" profession..
I challenged someone to complete the trapping tree without entering combat, and that post was deleted!!!!!
Thanks to everyone who has posted in my thread, show these monkeys that Ranger is indeed a combat-class,
Us, the ranger community, has been so calm, and we havnt resorted to the whining and B!tching, as other profs have to get change....but this is to much, raise up my ranger brothers, sitting pretty and being nice is obviously not getting us anywhere, its time to flex our muscles, and tell the devs what we want, what we NEED!!!!!
Message Edited by Keatsnam on 04-03-2005 01:16 PM
Nemo0 wrote:
Puck_Starfire wrote:
Ojay, I read the blog and I must admit it's vague at best. I think people are jumping to conclusions. You may be right, but you may be wrong. While they did not list Ranger (the only professions they specifically listed were docs/cm's), I still haven't seen them say that Rangers are not getting the bonus. I say test it out when Ranger is unlocked, give the CU some time for them to fix the bugs(it could actually be a bug), and then start jumping out the tenth story window. At this point, with the CU being out only a couple days, I think it's pointless to get this uptight about it.
Right now, Scout skills give no health bonus. Several weapon professions build off of these Scout skills. Maybe Ranger does but it seems odd that the Scout skills that other combat professions build on do not.
Another thing to think about: Rangers have been asking about the health bonus since the change was announced to the alpha team. The fact that they are specifically avoiding that question worries me. It's not like we are just sitting around waiting to hear info on the health issue. We are asking for communication and they are "listening". Communication goes both ways.
Right now, Rangers are getting the shaft when it comes to anything in this game. We will be less combat ready than most combat players (whether or not we get the health bonus, this is true). A Novice Scout currently can harvest 46% of what a Master Ranger does (yes, I'm including the recent increase). Groups won't usually want us because we are not as useful in most cases as a stacker (only our harvesting bonus and tracking really helps here but missions now scale to the group level so tracking is less likely to be used). Solo, a stacker should easily beat us in terms of CL killed per unit time. If we can kill a CL 25 in the time it takes them to kill a CL 50, we will easily be outharvestedwhen soloing (I seem to find that a CL 50 drops a lot more than twice what a CL 25 does). You no longer even need Master Scout to see the challenge ratings (they are listed right on top of the con indicator).
On top of this, there really isn't time to do any sort of a Ranger revamp during the CU (unless they throw another team on this but I would have hoped for at least some discussion by now if they were doing that). At best, they might be able to throw us a few bones. Basically, Ranger needs a revamp ASAP. But we haven't seen anything at all about this. Other professions in line for a revamp include Smuggler and Squad Leader, both of which are seeing stuff in the CU. Smuggler even has had some discussion with the Devs. And yet we wait. It worries me.
When the outspoken critics, (JBMat, myself, Dave and others) finally come into line with the patient, soft spoken, "wait til the Ranger Revamp" folks, we are at a grim point in our profession.
As Nem0 pointed out the clear and continued LACK of cimmunication from the Dev team regarding us is disconcerting on the low end, and downright terrifying on the other. Many Rangers have now stated repeatedly that they feel the Dev team wants us removed from the game, and I am adding my name to the list of those that do.
It's been a running gag, since the N'Raas era that the Dev's hate us. Now I truly feel they do, and would just as soon be rid of us altogether, despite being the calmest, most well mannered, articulate forum group in this entire game. Makes me wonder if we should have acted a little more like our half brothers, the Bounty Hunters, or even Jedi who screamed and cried loud enough to get what they wanted.......it's a sad day.
Rancorrider4 wrote:
When the outspoken critics, (JBMat, myself, Dave and others) finally come into line with the patient, soft spoken, "wait til the Ranger Revamp" folks, we are at a grim point in our profession.
As Nem0 pointed out the clear and continued LACK of cimmunication from the Dev team regarding us is disconcerting on the low end, and downright terrifying on the other. Many Rangers have now stated repeatedly that they feel the Dev team wants us removed from the game, and I am adding my name to the list of those that do.
It's been a running gag, since the N'Raas era that the Dev's hate us. Now I truly feel they do, and would just as soon be rid of us altogether, despite being the calmest, most well mannered, articulate forum group in this entire game. Makes me wonder if we should have acted a little more like our half brothers, the Bounty Hunters, or even Jedi who screamed and cried loud enough to get what they wanted.......it's a sad day.
i agree whole heartedly. i'll also refer ya'll to my recent post in our TC thread. Also, if you guys haven't been there yet. You NEED to post in Shilo's thread.
and yes, the lack of communication is terrifying! but i will not quit SWG, I will just become a BH and forever take out my unending anger out on jebays. 