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Thread: I need your help peeps!
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AgonThalia
Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:27 am
#27
Correct...
once you get the distance ability, it remains 500 meters at all times.
Nemo0
Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:40 am
#28
AgonThalia wrote:
Correct...
once you get the distance ability, it remains 500 meters at all times.
It wasn't like this on the server I tested on. But the code on there is vastly different from a Live server. Tracking 3 gave 440m, Tracking 4 gave 500m. It is still possible to do the test there but I'm not sure the results can be trusted. I still recommend using TC with Calc's correspondent enabled character.
Nemo0
Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:52 am
#29
AgonThalia wrote:
Gah!!
Its so strange.. at one point, i stated that the range increases up from 400-450-500 meters, and several people including myself went out and tested this, stating that it was 500m across the board from the get go.
grumble, grumble....
Im no longer sure about it anymore...I think i will brew myself some strong tea and relax...
I thought it was 500m at all levels as well. I was very surprised to find that, on the server I tried it on, this wasn't the case. I'm not sure if it's a stealth nerf or if testing wasn't done properly. But, when I tried it myself, I definately noticed a difference in range at different levels.
Calculus_Entropy
Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:52 am
#30
DarthDominus wrote:
So ...this friday feature is supposed to be about the "usefulness" of Rangers?
ummm...where does it say this?I said it was about Ranger skills. Rangers won't even be in this week'sFF.
Interesting. I thought TH said everything from here until JtL release was going to be about JtL.
I am guessing that there will be a profession realted portion and a JTL related portion, like last week.
I am not emaning to be harsh....I am just commenting
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Calculus_Entropy
Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:55 am
#31
icarus-uk wrote:If possible the most accurate way of doing it would be to get in a group with another player. Stand 100 metres away and track them at novice ranger. moving out until you cant see them on tracking anymore. Then level up to tracking 1, and repeat the experiment. Once you get to Master Ranger you'll know the exact distances of your maximum tracking distace and each level of tracking. Using the test centre servers you can level up quickly, as I believe the frogs are still there.
YOu know, I was going to do this...too bad you can't track players until Tracking 4
. Makes it hard to determine what the lower level radii are. I guess I will write something vague about the 500m radius. 
Seiryuu
Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:03 am
#32
Calc, just find a friend on TC.
Have them stand at a creature so you know it doesn't despawn, then do the distance tests.
Make the "creature" a transport shuttle if you want a fixed point with a unique name.
Have them stand at a creature so you know it doesn't despawn, then do the distance tests.
Make the "creature" a transport shuttle if you want a fixed point with a unique name.
Calculus_Entropy
Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:06 am
#33
Seiryuu wrote:
Calc, just find a friend on TC.
Have them stand at a creature so you know it doesn't despawn, then do the distance tests.
Make the "creature" a transport shuttle if you want a fixed point with a unique name.
You are a genius!
Fred_Skinner
Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:38 am
#34
I think there is a missunderstanding about "despawning". There is a difference between that and the data clipping function (the very one that would let us have stealth, btw) and the despawning due to lack of PC activity. The latter takes a good 10 minutes (about the same amount of time to make a LD toon vanish) so there is no need, really, to have your friend hang around once it spawns. It may, however, have spawned and have been there for a long enough time that the server cycles through to another set of spawns by despawning that one and spawning another later. That will have to be watched.
Seiryuu wrote:
Calc, just find a friend on TC.
Have them stand at a creature so you know it doesn't despawn, then do the distance tests.
Make the "creature" a transport shuttle if you want a fixed point with a unique name.
icarus-uk
Thu Sep 23, 2004 12:34 pm
#35
If possible the most accurate way of doing it would be to get in a group with another player. Stand 100 metres away and track them at novice ranger. moving out until you cant see them on tracking anymore. Then level up to tracking 1, and repeat the experiment. Once you get to Master Ranger you'll know the exact distances of your maximum tracking distace and each level of tracking. Using the test centre servers you can level up quickly, as I believe the frogs are still there.
Nemo0
Thu Sep 23, 2004 1:42 pm
#36
Seiryuu is right or I would already have listed ranges for tracking 1 and novice ranger (well, at least according to a server that might not be worth trusting). I was having trouble with creatures not showing up past about 200m. So I switched to static NPCs in the city that I had waypointed (mainly because I noticed them in /ar from some distance out while looking for something worth tracking).
WildBil2Me
Thu Sep 23, 2004 3:42 pm
#37
Seiryuu wrote:
Fred, what I am refering to is the fact that if you go farther than about 150 meters from a creature, it does in fact despawn.
I know something shows up on track, but you can no longer trust it.
Why? Because you can find a lair with a (baby) or (scout) creature. Run 175 meters away and count to 30. Run back. The composition of creatures has likely changed. Milk has refreshed. The lair has healed all its damage.
But if someone stays nearby, none of this occurs. That is why I mean when I say despawn, and why having someone stand there is important.
Otherwise you are possibly seeing phantom creatures and the distances might not be accurate.
On a side note concerning the accuracy of spawns. Was out looking for the moisture farmer the other night. At one point Lorif (a moisture farmer) showed up as being 200 m north of me. As I headed north I discovered Iago (a moisture farmer) exactly where Lofif belonged. Completely surprised and a bit scared I'd missed the spawn I went back to the waypoint from which I had done the /areatrack. On doing the areatrack again Iago (a moisture farmer) was now being listed as the NPC 200m north.
I have no doubt that the spawn created by areatrack was re-initialized on my approach and given a different name. Same NPC spawn... different stats.
This led me to believe that the accuracy of areatrack relies on a predetermined spawn type. (A moisture farmer) is currently supposed to spawn at this location...more specific stats about(a moisture farmer) are created by the PCs act of initilizing it.
Seiryuu
Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:43 am
#38
Fred, what I am refering to is the fact that if you go farther than about 150 meters from a creature, it does in fact despawn.
I know something shows up on track, but you can no longer trust it.
Why? Because you can find a lair with a (baby) or (scout) creature. Run 175 meters away and count to 30. Run back. The composition of creatures has likely changed. Milk has refreshed. The lair has healed all its damage.
But if someone stays nearby, none of this occurs. That is why I mean when I say despawn, and why having someone stand there is important.
Otherwise you are possibly seeing phantom creatures and the distances might not be accurate.
I know something shows up on track, but you can no longer trust it.
Why? Because you can find a lair with a (baby) or (scout) creature. Run 175 meters away and count to 30. Run back. The composition of creatures has likely changed. Milk has refreshed. The lair has healed all its damage.
But if someone stays nearby, none of this occurs. That is why I mean when I say despawn, and why having someone stand there is important.
Otherwise you are possibly seeing phantom creatures and the distances might not be accurate.
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