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Thread: Will you be the First...
Let me say this first,i am writing this in an rp aspect to try and create a little tension between our PA's- I do hope that you to are replying in the same manner as it does seem to be getting a little personal.
This shall be my final and last response on this issue as i grow weary of it. If you care to respond then do so, but i shall not be responding to this post here on in becuase this is turning into a flame war, which is something i dont care to be involved in.
Firstly,
Eoli wrote,
I did ask to rejoin the ranks...foolish as AR is you took me seriously. It is to your benefit that you did not let me in due to the fact that I would have ravaged the guild a second time. DSR has already infiltrated the Antarian Rangers so I have stopped trying to get re-invited...havent you noticed scott??? You think we dont know about your PA hall that is within 300m from the Lake Retreat Battlefield...You think i wasnt STANDING on the steps of your hall this afternoon??? How about I build a house in front of it again...? Would you like that...? <AR> is a bunch of pansies holding on to the Light Side. No Scott, I dont want to rejoin your foolish guild...I have discovered true power and unity and will be happy to show it to you personally one day soon....
Well, well, it seem Aramus cant do his own bidding and needs to call on others to help him. No doubt you will both denigh this of course, but here we have Eoli doing everything as Aramus requested like the good lap boy he is. Iam most interested in your comments Eoli about "ravaging the guild for the second time". So you admit to stealing from what was your fellow PA members while in a position of powerand i might add one of your imperial brothers? I wonder what Alde would think when hearing of such a thing. If that is the calibur of your guild mates Aramus, frankly you can keep him. And truth is Eoli, we where never going to let you back in Eoli no matter how much you asked, someone that betrays someone that quickly doesnt deserve to have the rank of AR. And as always the immature resort to name calling "a bunch of pansies holding onto the Light Side" Not quote sure what flowers have to do with Star Wars 
. im surprised Eoli i once considered you a resonable person, clearly it shows that dark side has a firm hold of you and makes me wonder of your actions and that of Aramus. Theyseem very premeditated to me. Maybe they werent but maybe they were. And true power is only there for you if you agree with Aramus and his beliefs. If you waver from them, surely you will become a "moron" like the rest of us.
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Now for Aramus, you wrote
Umm pitiful? I'd say I've pretty much outmatched you completely on this thread, and in game.
Firstly, How do you consider that you have outmatched me? Skill? Surely not as we both are exactly the same, you are a Master Rifleman / Master Ranger, i am a Master Rifleman / Master Ranger so not sure how you beat me, please explain? Wealth? Is something that doesnt concern me but it certainly seem to concern imperials,yet at the same time i have over 2 million? Is this where we seeyour attitude andthat of imperials everywhereby claiming to outmatch me in game when we appear to be identical? I dont claim superiority over you. I consider you an equal, but then again, the darkside has worped you mind and i fear it is to late for you and you will never understand reasoning. Still competition is what drives an imperial isnt it? Wanting to be number one in all things is the way of the imperial and will also be the downfall of you.
Here's why:
1. You went on about "booting the imps out of AR" when I know **edit** well you still have one in there. I guess you have a little game of "Where's Waldo?" you still need to play, within your own ranks.
It is true all imperials that i know have left and if some remain, they shant for too long. We will soon require that all members declare their faction at least once aweek to prove their worth and hold a rank which is yet to be decided. This is one of the many changes we are making to AR. If there are imperials within our ranks they shant be for to much longer.
2. You claimed you didn't have morons in your guild. I gave you several FACTS pointing to why you do. Ignore them all you want. Keep telling yourself that your guild is made up of rocket scientists. Your hubris will bring about your own destruction.
This was my favorite one. By your own accord you have willing said that you, Aramus, have infact started this PA and ran it, so isnt it you that let these "morons" into the game. Isnt it you that made "such a disorganised PA full of a bunch of morons"
3. You bragged about the "secret location" of your hall, which is not secret at all. Still don't believe me? It is located at-3475 -108, and by the way, your furniture job inside sucks. Your old furniture is still for sale if you really want it.
If this is indeed true we have anspy within our ranksand once we find out who it is will be removed from the PA immediately. And as for the furniture, i didnt do it, and you can keep the furniture you have, so its a constant reminder to you of the considerable money you outlayed for the grand opening of the PA hall that no one attended. I can get the same furniture built axactly the same from the same person you bought it from for a fifth of the price if i have to pay for them at all. You see, decent people associate with decent people. I help them, they help me, that is the way i play and that is the way many people i know play. Funnily enough, they all seem rebel. What is all that about?
4. You claimed your "membership cutbacks" were by design. They were not. Your guild has lost over half its numbers because you don't have a clue how to run it, and because I made it what it was. I know you'll be in denial about that, but just ask yourself this: how many people were in it just before I left? How many are still in it? do you think the difference between those two number is a coincidence?
This was my second favorite. Last i heard a PA is more than one person, maybe i was wrong and again maybe that is the imperial state of mind.If you made the PA what is was isnt it your fault that the PA was running so badily in the first place? If you are such a great leader and recruited so well, why where there morons within the ranks of AR while you where the leader? As for the numbers, of course they will halve when the PA is made up of half Imperial Half Rebel. This doesnt suprise me at all SINCE WE ARE GOING REBEL ONLY.
Now who's pitiful?
Im sorry to say that unfortunately you still are pitiful. By your own accord you accepted all the members into AR, myself included, you also state that you made the PA what it was, yet you seem pretty willing to bad mouth YOUR OWN CREATION. So you see i find it quite amuzing, that yourself, are bad mouthing your own work. How long before you current PA is full of members that you accept which are all morons if they dont do everything you ask of them. Still, you play the role on an imperial well.
Myself and several others arechanging AR into what WE think is the best for ALL PARTIES not what I think is best. Maybe if you where to learn a little compromise Aramus you wouldnt find yourself in the position you are with the "select group" as you like to call them. By all means go forth and prosper with your stealing guild mates, we dont need them nor do we want them.
So in the words of the great man - Apu
"Thank you, come again"
Well hate to interrupt this fight but I want to get back on topic. 
I have mix feeling on the Jedi thing. One part of me wants to hunt them down like dogs if they pay me for it. I am not too happy so far how you become a Jedi and I wish to destroy all Jedi's that I encounter. I know that is petty but hey I am a petty person. 
The other part that I am feelingis that I would help them out if they pay me. I would like to see them do their lightsaber show and use that Force power stuff on people, heck even on me. 
Now for the moment I will hunt down one for free that is on my server. He is an Imperial but this guy is bad news. I hunted with him once and let's say I was not too pleased how he acted. Later on I heard more stories how he acted in game andconfirming for mehe is a jerk.
So sorry for the rant or the rambling just expressing my opinion.
Yes I ravaged the guild. Yes I would do it again. Yes, together Aramus AND I devised a plan to get a spy back into <AR> be it me or someone else. YES we succeeded in that. NO! You can't find out who it is. Yes I have another giant lizard with your name on it. Oh...
Pansy - A delicate, dainty flower, native to the woodlands of Naboo...
<AR> - Some delicate, dainty fairies living on my planet...
Eoli Emnei
Ranger of the Dark Side
Master Ranger/Rifleman
Supreme Underlord of <DSR>
*We interupt this flame war to bring you back on-topic*
Exterminate the Jedi.
I'm TKA/Ranger and I will use my power to hunt these abominations of nature back to extinction.
The Old Republic is dead. Don't dig it up.
"Yes I ravaged the guild. Yes I would do it again."
Ah, the political intrigue, the subterfuge, sabotage, mayhem...
- Feels like I am reading Dune.
Wow, that was a super-duper-thread-hijacking! Great topic tho...I have noticed that people who choose Ranger as a primary profession are like-minded in game and in RL for the most part...and this thread proves it...most of us are trying to build characters and stories, and coming up with real motivation for our actions...makes the whole thing a lot more fun...
/incharacter
So my story....I have started a new class of Ranger, and to my knowledge I am the only one on Bria, but I am confident that our ranks will grow. I am an Eco Terrorist! As a monk of the Teras Kasi, it is my sworn duty to keep an eye on all Jedi, because they all have great power, and the opportunity to abuse it, but my primary concern is the opression of nature. So most Jedi on the light side are OK in my book...I'm sure there will be a few that can't resist the urge to kill one of the great beasts of the galaxy just to see how powerful they are, and I will be watching them if they do.
My primary concern as an Eco Terrorist and Monk of the Teras Kasi is the extermination of the Empire and the Dark Jedi that control it. They have no respect for the world around them. The cover beautiful planets with their metal and malice. They needlessly demolish the glorious creatres of our galaxy with machines and mechanical precision, looting their corpses and leaving them to rot, and they must all be stopped. Their greatest enemy is not the Rebel Alliance, Jedi Hunters, or anyone else on two legs, but Mother Nature herself and her able bodies servants (I am one of billions that server Her proudly). Watch out, because I truly do not believe that the Empire or it's leaders understand what theyhave started, and I know theyare not prepared to finish it.
/outofcharacter
See, Eco Terrorist...try it...lots of fun! Maybe the Ewoks weren't such a bad idea after all...
ROFL
I just couldn't stay on the sidelines anymore.
Iam most interested in your comments Eoli about "ravaging the guild for the second time". So you admit to stealing from what was your fellow PA members while in a position of powerand i might add one of your imperial brothers?
How could Aramus steal what was rightfully his in the first place? Most of the furniture was bought and paid for by him, and as for the stuff that belonged to Mok, I consider them spoils of war.
im surprised Eoli i once considered you a resonable person, clearly it shows that dark side has a firm hold of you and makes me wonder of your actions and that of Aramus. Theyseem very premeditated to me.
I believe Eoli has freed himself from the confines of the light. Premeditation=preplanned, using reason and intelligence to overcome a situation. If your still unsure if it was premeditated, we can always find you another giant lizzard.
Firstly, How do you consider that you have outmatched me? Skill? Surely not as we both are exactly the same, you are a Master Rifleman / Master Ranger, i am a Master Rifleman / Master Ranger so not sure how you beat me, please explain? Wealth? Is something that doesnt concern me but it certainly seem to concern imperials,yet at the same time i have over 2 million? Is this where we seeyour attitude andthat of imperials everywhereby claiming to outmatch me in game when we appear to be identical? I dont claim superiority over you. I consider you an equal, but then again, the darkside has worped you mind and i fear it is to late for you and you will never understand reasoning. Still competition is what drives an imperial isnt it? Wanting to be number one in all things is the way of the imperial and will also be the downfall of you.
He has outmatched you in wit. He has used intelligence to outmanuver you at every turn. Everything he has stated up to this point has been fact, and you cannot deny it. He never refered to any in game skill, just to the fact that on these boards he has tore your points to shreads every time you have put up a post.
Competition is not what drives an Imperial. What drives an Imperial is the great desire to see every Rebel erased from the universe and from history itself.
It is true all imperials that i know have left and if some remain, they shant for too long. We will soon require that all members declare their faction at least once aweek to prove their worth and hold a rank which is yet to be decided. This is one of the many changes we are making to AR. If there are imperials within our ranks they shant be for to much longer.
Having someone declare their faction will not help you in finding the spy that resides amongst you.Let me refresh your memory:
Spy, n., pl. -spies
1. An agent employed by a state to obtain secret information, especially of a military nature, concerning its potential or actual enemies.
Our spy is employedby us. I.E. services rendered shall be paid for. He is of course a rebel and will have no problem passing your little declaring faction test. 
Try again.
By your own accord you have willing said that you, Aramus, have infact started this PA and ran it, so isnt it you that let these "morons" into the game. Isnt it you that made "such a disorganised PA full of a bunch of morons"
ThePA wasn't disorganised, it was just full of membersthat didn't care about the guild.As long as you could put up a Ranger tag, you were allowed intothe guild, no questions asked, and soit was filled with a bunch of people who were not dedicated to seeing the guildsucceed. No "morons" followed us into DSR as they wouldn't be allowed to join.
You see, decent people associate with decent people. I help them, they help me, that is the way i play and that is the way many people i know play. Funnily enough, they all seem rebel. What is all that about?
Ok, if you are so decent, then why did you kick Csin out of the guild hall? He had nothingat all to do with Aramus or anybody else leaving or taking your furniture. You were so afraidof anybody aligned with Aramus, thatyou werewilling to throw out an honest vendor who's greatest crime was helping you.
If you made the PA what is was isnt it your fault that the PA was running so badily in the first place? If you are such a great leader and recruited so well, why where there morons within the ranks of AR while you where the leader? As for the numbers, of course they will halve when the PA is made up of half Imperial Half Rebel. This doesnt suprise me at all SINCE WE ARE GOING REBEL ONLY.
I was under the impression that Mok was in charge of the PA. After all, he set up the boards on the PA website, and sat in the chair that said "Guild Leader." Perhaps my memory is a bit fuzzy, being under the control of the Dark Side and all, but he was the one in the guild terminal that had [Guild Leader] beside his name. Hopefully next time you can get your facts straight.
How long before you current PA is full of members that you accept which are all morons if they dont do everything you ask of them. Still, you play the role on an imperial well.
We don't accept morons as a matter of principal. If you choose not to participate in certain activities within the guild, it's ok, but to constantly take from the PA without giving back, you will become a moron very quick indeed. Last I recall, any AR member could mooch off of the guild with no consequences what so ever.
Sorry to reject your application before you ever sent it Scott.
In closing, all I can say, is THANK GOD I LEFT AR.
Well, well, it seem Aramus cant do his own bidding and needs to call on others to help him. No doubt you will both denigh this of course, but here we have Eoli doing everything as Aramus requested like the good lap boy he is.
Hmmm...........who do you think had a better chance of reinfiltrating your guild? The one who was behind the insurrection, or someone else? You would have NEVER let me back in. You almost let Eoli back in. I know you'll say you didn't fall for his trick, but then why were you bragging that "some of your guys tried to ask to get back in" like you thought my loyalty of my members was in question. Clearly you did think he was serious, or you would not have bragged about it to me, to try and make me look bad.
Firstly, How do you consider that you have outmatched me? Skill? Surely not as we both are exactly the same, you are a Master Rifleman / Master Ranger, i am a Master Rifleman / Master Ranger so not sure how you beat me
Let's see, first of all, I am not that set of skills anymore, I have moved on to a new setup. Of course, you wouldn't know that, having no intelligence gathering cabability whatsoever. By the way, I think its neat that you're planning to give up Ranger for Doctor. How cute.
As far as how I've outmatched you, lets tally up the score...........................
I have a spy in your guild, which youA) were completely unaware of, untilItold youand B) are unable to weed out, even now.
Found Waldo yet? ROFL
You have no spy in my guild.
Aramus 1 - Scott 0
You bragged about how "secret" your guild hall location was, then I gave you the exact coordinates to it. This demonstrates your hubris, in thinking you could EVER keep something secret from me, especially while I have a spy in your guild.
You couldn't tell me where my hall was, if your life depended on it, not that I'm trying to keep it a secret, or would even care if you knew.
Aramus 2 - Scott 0
Total number of times I have looted your hall, and left a giant lizard in it to mock you: 1 (expect another giant lizard attack in the near future)
Total number of times you have done this to me: 0
Aramus 3 - Scott 0
Total number of people that have quit DSR since the guild split: 0
Total number of people that have quit AR since the guild split (not including the ones that joined DSR, by the way): at least 10
Aramus 4 - Scott 0
I won't harp on quality of members, since that is a largely subjective judgement, however, I can point this out:
Total number of people named "Jastro" that passed the membership requirements of AR: 1
Total number of people named "Jastro" that passed the membership requirements of DSR: 0
Aramus 5 - Scott 0
We will soon require that all members declare their faction at least once aweek to prove their worth and hold a rank which is yet to be decided.
You're going to go to all that trouble, because of something I told you? Sounds like Eoli isn't my only "lap boy." Congratulations, you now have that distinction as well.
Aramus 6 - Scott 0
This was my favorite one. By your own accord you have willing said that you, Aramus, have infact started this PA and ran it, so isnt it you that let these "morons" into the game. Isnt it you that made "such a disorganised PA full of a bunch of morons"
I never said I started AR. I didn't. AR is Zkull's creation, and the ground rules for the organization were laid down long before I ever became a part of it.He was the one that made the basis for the entire thing. Mokazza started the Bloodfin chapter of it, and I joined. All I ever claimed was that I did the most work of RUNNING the Bloodfin chapter of AR (perhaps I didn't state this specifically enough). And yes, my leadership WAS what made it successful, for the amount of time it did have success (you know, unlike how things are right now, ROFLMAO). But, unfortunately, the basis of the organization was flawed at its core, particularly the lack of strict membership requirements. THAT, was not my decision. That rule was already in place. Sometimes, you just don't try to fix something, you throw it away and start over again. That's what I did.
As for the numbers, of course they will halve when the PA is made up of half Imperial Half Rebel.
Actually, the PA was not half Imp, half Rebel. There were only about 3-4 Imperials when I was in it.
People that left, that were not imperial at the time:
Eoli left, and joined the Dark Side. (wasn't already on it)
Bo left, and joined the Dark Side. (wasn't already on it)
theft left, because he was fed up. (wasn't imp)
attar left, because he was fed up. (wasn't imp)
offdray left, because he was fed up. (wasn't imp)
ataraxia left, because she knew she'd have more fun with her other friends, than with this guild (DEFINITELY wasn't imp)
I know there's more than that, but that's all I can think of off hand.
By your own accord you accepted all the members into AR
Show me where I said that. I never did. For a couple of weeks, I was the only one able to accept anyone into the guild (when mokazzaretardedlychanged his name and didnt give anyone else permissions) so I would have to run back to the hall every time we had a new member, to do the "press a button to make this guy in the guild" part of the admissions process.THAT IS NOT TO SAY I PERSONALLY SCREENED EVERY MEMBER. When a member is recruited into a guild, the whole process goes like this:
1. Person hears about guild.
2. Person talks to a guild member about it. (sometimes steps 1 and 2 are the same)
3. Person asks questions to find out if guild is right for them.
4. Member evaluates recruit to see if they will fit in guild.
5. Member takes recruit to guild hall, shows them around.
6. Member asks recruit if they want to join.
7. Recruit accepts.
8. Member sponsors Recruit into guild.
9. Leader accepts recruit.
Now, of all of these steps, in about 90% of the cases, all I did was step 9, nothing more. If the failure of the other 8 steps is my fault, then it is only my fault because I TRUSTED THE OTHER MEMBERS OF AR TO BE HALFWAY INTELLIGENT IN WHO THEY RECRUITED. I will be the first to tell you that AR's members were incompetent in who they recruited. Thanks for helping me make this point.
And even that argument only applies to the short period of time when I was the only one with accept permissions. There was months of recruiting where I was not the one accepting everyone. Less than 1/3 of the total members ever, were recruited by me.
yet you seem pretty willing to bad mouth YOUR OWN CREATION
Once again, not my creation. Zkull created AR itself, Mok created the Bloodfin Chapter, I just worked with it for a while.
Question:
If ford makes a piece of crap car, my friend buys one, and I try to help him fix it up, and get it running pretty well for a while, but it keepsbreaking down,and then I give up because the car is a hopless pile of junk, does it become my fault the car was junk in the first place?
I want an answer to that one. I know you said you wouldn't reply Scott, but just answer that one question, please.
You see, decent people associate with decent people. I help them, they help me, that is the way i play and that is the way many people i know play. Funnily enough, they all seem rebel. What is all that about?
Ok, lets talk about how "decently" you treated Csin. He made a deal with us to take all the work off our hands and sell our stuff for us, as long as he got a share of the profits. He changed the sign on our hall for us, and on a lot of members' houses. He used up one of his vendor slots to put one in our hall so we would have a convenient drop off point. He sold a lot of goods for us, made good profit, and tipped everyone personally. He even took the time to prepare reports for us so we would know he was honest about the whole deal, and how effective his deal was for us.
Most members of AR weren't even smart enough to figure out how to sell through him. After sending out an email on where and how to drop it off, I still got "who do we sellto?" questions, REPEATEDLY, from the same morons, over and over. It was really simple. Drop it in Csin's vendor, 2cpu, he tips you half of the difference when it sells. Yet I publicized that I DONT KNOW HOW MANY TIMES, yet I'd still get idiotic "umm i cant find anyone to sell to" complaints from morons.
AR'sidiocy aside, Csin had been on vacation for an entire week, he had just gotten back. He totaled up a weeks worth of sales from his absence, and collectively tipped your guild about a million credits worth of sales. I got that email too, since I had been in the guild before he left, and I was impressed with the numbers.
Five minutes later, he tells me you fired him, and told him he had 24 hours to get his vendor out of your hall, and this is right after he paid you a whole lot of money, and had prepared a nice report for you. That's the thanks he gets for helping you guys out?
Don't try to claim some moral high ground on me, you have done some pretty despicable things yourself.
Aramus 7 - Scott 0
Okay I shall respond but once more, as you asked Aramus, as i grow weary of this toing and froing we are doing and as i have no doubt everyone else is as well.
But lets clear a few things up first.
Mokazzza, realising his short comings as leader has asked me to take over as the PA leader of AR which i have. Unfortantely for AR and myself, for the last 2 weeks i havent had the use of a computer (water based cooling is harder than it looks) and will be finally getting around to fixing it this coming weekend which at this time I will also be taking over AR offically and changing it quite dramatically with the help of a few others from what it once was.
Now to get to Aramus.
Aramus in white,ScottLarrin in Yellow
Hmmm...........who do you think had a better chance of reinfiltrating your guild? The one who was behind the insurrection, or someone else? You would have NEVER let me back in. You almost let Eoli back in. I know you'll say you didn't fall for his trick, but then why were you bragging that "some of your guys tried to ask to get back in" like you thought my loyalty of my members was in question. Clearly you did think he was serious, or you would not have bragged about it to me, to try and make me look bad.
Why? Why would you want to infiltrate AR? To be honest i dont percieve the mentality you have here. Why if youand DRS are sosuperior to AR are you worried aboutus so much? Maybe we are doing somethin right after all!!! You went your way and i tried to stop you cause i thought you where giving up to easy, but that is the way of the imperial. If itdoesnt work, scrapit, start again, and again, and again. How many different DRS will we have? And as for Eoli he was never going to be let back in, not while i was there.
Let's see, first of all, I am not that set of skills anymore, I have moved on to a new setup. Of course, you wouldn't know that, having no intelligence gathering cabability whatsoever. By the way, I think its neat that you're planning to give up Ranger for Doctor. How cute.
Ahh, Aramus, you passed the test perfectly. I absoultly knew you would come running here to the boards as soon as i told you (which takes a huge amount of intelligence gathering, dont try and drum up that you are some form of super human fact finding hound)I told you Iwas "thinking of dropping ranger to take up doctor" to see your reaction.This simply little test alone shows the pitifulness of yourself and your PA to try and better AR and myself. Running to the boards to tell everyone about everything that is AR. Actually Aramus, im flattered, you seem to want to tell everyone about myself and AR, maybeI should take it as a complement! Maybe you would like to be known as the guy that knows ScottLarrin. Its okay, it really is, but you dont need to go to these lengths to find stuff out about me, im a good guy, you can just ask me.
As far as how I've outmatched you, lets tally up the score...........................
So you fell you have toprove to everyone that you are betterthan me to prove you worth? Interesting, very intersting indeed!!
I have a spy in your guild, which youA) were completely unaware of, untilItold youand B) are unable to weed out, even now. You have no spy in my guild.
I dont care for such tactics becuase i dont care what DSR is doing. I have no need for spies for i have no worry from DSR, your organisation doesnt worry me in the slightest. I have bigger concerns withyourEmperor.Clearly you have many worries if you still see the need to have spies within our ranks.
You bragged about how "secret" your guild hall location was, then I gave you the exact coordinates to it. This demonstrates your hubris, in thinking you could EVER keep something secret from me, especially while I have a spy in your guild. You couldn't tell me where my hall was, if your life depended on it, not that I'm trying to keep it a secret, or would even care if you knew.
Once again, im flattered that you are so up to date with all our movings, but rest assured we will be moving soon to place that i consider better and more reclusive. As for your location i cant say im to bothered by it. I dont intend on dropping by to prove my worth to myelf by knowing your location at all times. I will leave that up to you guys to track me. I prefer to hunt and enjoy the spoils.
Total number of times I have looted your hall, and left a giant lizard in it to mock you: 1 (expect another giant lizard attack in the near future)
Very surprised in this. You openly admit stealing from another player? Very interesting indeed. I wonder if the CSR's keep an eye on these boards? Between yourself and Eoli, you have a fine bunch of people within the ranks of DRS. But dont worry you have stolen nothing from me in the slightest so you can continue to do so if you will. And as for stealing from you, there is nothing you have that interest me in the slightest, you see, rebels, unlike imperials, dont live for greed and power and we dont care to amass huge amounts of money and valuables, we dont mind it, but we dont cheat steal and kill for it.But more importantly it once again shows that AR is doing something right if you feel the need to steal it. Why is that? Is it something that DSR can not provide for themselves?
Total number of people that have quit DSR since the guild split: 0
Total number of people that have quit AR since the guild split (not including the ones that joined DSR, by the way): at least 10
Any change brings descent amongst the ranks. We have told people well inadvance what path we are about to undertake, if they have chosen to leave that is their perogative. And if DSR was losing members already after all of 2 weeks i would find it extremley funny, but that is another story.
Total number of people named "Jastro" that passed the membership requirements of AR: 1
Total number of people named "Jastro" that passed the membership requirements of DSR: 0
Not to make Jastro fill little and like nothing, but in not sure who he is. If it is who i am thinking of it was you yourself that got rid of him while you where a leader in AR. Which would also lead me to think you where behind it all. You sneaky imperial you!!
You're going to go to all that trouble, because of something I told you? Sounds like Eoli isn't my only "lap boy." Congratulations, you now have that distinction as well.
We are not making this change for you. Like i said before, we are not concerened with you and the happenings or DSR. We are doing it to see who is loyal to the Rebel Cause. If you are not loyal to the rebel cuase you will not be welcome within our ranks. And i assure you it involves more than just having a certain rank with the rebel army, but i shant get into them here. Anyway you faboulous spy will be able to tell you as im sure he will find out soon enough. Or maybe he wont and you will just have to keep guessing!!!
I never said I started AR. I didn't. AR is Zkull's creation, and the ground rules for the organization were laid down long before I ever became a part of it.He was the one that made the basis for the entire thing. Mokazza started the Bloodfin chapter of it, and I joined. All I ever claimed was that I did the most work of RUNNING the Bloodfin chapter of AR (perhaps I didn't state this specifically enough). And yes, my leadership WAS what made it successful, for the amount of time it did have success (you know, unlike how things are right now, ROFLMAO). But, unfortunately, the basis of the organization was flawed at its core, particularly the lack of strict membership requirements. THAT, was not my decision. That rule was already in place. Sometimes, you just don't try to fix something, you throw it away and start over again. That's what I did.
Ahh Imperials. God love em. If its broke, replace it!! Got to love that philosophy on life. Do you not pay maintenance on any of your buildings? Just simply replace them i suppose. You have lived the easy life to long friend and it shall be your downfall. It is simplier easy to replace something that it is to fix something. And mark my words, under my leadership we will thrieve once more under the banner of AR.
Show me where I said that. I never did. For a couple of weeks, I was the only one able to accept anyone into the guild (when mokazzaretardedlychanged his name and didnt give anyone else permissions) so I would have to run back to the hall every time we had a new member, to do the "press a button to make this guy in the guild" part of the admissions process.THAT IS NOT TO SAY I PERSONALLY SCREENED EVERY MEMBER. When a member is recruited into a guild, the whole process goes like this.
Correct me if im wrong, but isnt it your responsibility to check those that are coming into the PA? Neigh, it is your duty. If you dont agree with something that is happening within the PA voice your opinion and if its a valid reason we will change. Well that is the way AR is run now. WIth me taking charge has lead to many changes within our ranks, which in part is due to why many have left.
And even that argument only applies to the short period of time when I was the only one with accept permissions. There was months of recruiting where I was not the one accepting everyone. Less than 1/3 of the total members ever, were recruited by me.
This is another Kryatt Pearl of wisdom Aramus. Using you own number to show that you look like a prat. Less than 1/3 of the total member where recruited by me. At the most we had 25 people with out ranks and if you had to "accept" a third then im glad you have left, if doing 8 things for a PA is to much, we are better off without you. A heads up to the guys in DSR, dont get him to do to much or he will consider you all morons and start again.
Ok, lets talk about how "decently" you treated Csin. He made a deal with us to take all the work off our hands and sell our stuff for us, as long as he got a share of the profits. He changed the sign on our hall for us, and on a lot of members' houses (He didnt change mine). He used up one of his vendor slots to put one in our hall so we would have a convenient drop off point. He sold a lot of goods for us, HE made good profit, and tipped everyone personally. He even took the time to prepare reports (i never saw one) for us so we would know he was honest about the whole deal, and how effective his deal was for us.
Most members of AR weren't even smart enough to figure out how to sell through him. After sending out an email on where and how to drop it off, I still got "who do we sellto?" questions, REPEATEDLY, from the same morons, over and over. It was really simple. Drop it in Csin's vendor, 2cpu, he tips you half of the difference when it sells. Yet I publicized that I DONT KNOW HOW MANY TIMES, yet I'd still get idiotic "umm i cant find anyone to sell to" complaints from morons.
AR'sidiocy aside, Csin had been on vacation for an entire week, he had just gotten back. He totaled up a weeks worth of sales from his absence, and collectively tipped your guild about a million credits worth of sales. I got that email too, since I had been in the guild before he left, and I was impressed with the numbers.
Five minutes later, he tells me you fired him, and told him he had 24 hours to get his vendor out of your hall, and this is right after he paid you a whole lot of money, and had prepared a nice report for you. That's the thanks he gets for helping you guys out?
Don't try to claim some moral high ground on me, you have done some pretty despicable things yourself.
Firstly, i didnt fire him and ive never used him or had anything to do with him. Im sure he is a fine salesman. But by your own accord you have told us many times how you so ingenously looted our PA hall, why should we any longer trust a person that YOU made the deal with? What is to say that you and your spies werent arranging for us to continue using him and then he send you the profits. im sorry if we have stopped your next post on why you are better than us, but life is so. But more so lets get to the deal in question.
You arrange this deal if i remember correctly so that CSIN gets half of all our profits. Why wouldnt he want to do this? Free Money. I know i would try and keep such a deal as this going if i could. He may of tipped the PA 1 million in credits, but by your own agreement, he made 1 million out of it himself. Of course he would want to keep such a deal going. Im not bad mouthing CSIN, dont know him so i cant comment on him, but it was your deal we got rid of not CSIN.
If ford makes a piece of crap car, my friend buys one, and I try to help him fix it up, and get it running pretty well for a while, but it keepsbreaking down,and then I give up because the car is a hopless pile of junk, does it become my fault the car was junk in the first place?
I want an answer to that one. I know you said you wouldn't reply Scott, but just answer that one question, please.
Yes it is your fault. It is you fault and your downfall if a friend ask you for help and then you abandon him at signs of trouble no matter how many times he has asked you. It is up to you to fix it so it isnt a crap car. Mokazzza openly admits his short comings as a PA leader but when he asked for help, what did you do? You ran, im not doing this anymore, blah, blah, blah, im making my own PA blah, blah, blah and only letting people in that i want to let in blah, blah, blah. And when Mokazzza ask another to help him and he willingly accepts and tries to portay a new image to everyone, what do you do? You take every single chance you have to degrade and bad mouth a PA that you must truly fear. Its okay Armaus, we are not here to bring the destruction of your PA, we are here to bring the Jedi into what is their rightful place in the Universe and for us all to return to time when we could all get along. For while you are under the cloud of the Emperor i fear i cannot help you but when you realise the fate before you, you will rethink your allegieance.
I didnt care to keep score, for i dont have the need or desire to compare myself to you.
You are REALLY starting to sound like a kindergarten teacher.
All of that "you have to help your friends, and be nice" crap was really pathetic. If that's how you really feel, you need to close down AR and open up a new PA called TK - The Kindergarten. That's really what you're starting to sound like.
Umm hello? Have you ever heard of a WAR?
I present to you EXHIBIT A
War n. pl. (wars)
1.
a. A state of open, armed, often prolonged conflict carried on between nations, states, or parties.
b. The period of such conflict.
c.The techniques and procedures of war; military science.
2.
a. A condition of active antagonism or contention: a war of words; a price war.
b. A concerted effort or campaign to combat or put an end to something considered injurious: the war against acid rain.
Last time I checked, the point of a war is to WIN, not be fluffy and kind and friendly and make everyone feel all warm and fuzzy inside, that's what kindergarten is for. If that's really what you think war is about you need to stop teaching kindergarten and go join the Army for a few years. I'm in the National Guard myself, I've been through the same training as regular Army soldiers, I know what the hell I'm talking about, so don't come back with "well how would you know?"
I now present EXHIBIT B:
Kindergarten, n. abbrev. K
1. A program or class for four-year-old to six-year-old children that serves as an introduction to school.
2. A school for young children, conducted on the theory that education should be begun by gratifying and cultivating the normal aptitude for exercise, play, observation, imitation, and construction; -- a name given by Friedrich Froebel, a German educator, who introduced this method of training, in rooms opening on a garden.
If I remember correctly, the point of Kindergarten is to always play nice and be friendly and feel warm and fuzzy inside. Competition is not emphasized, young children are encouraged to make friends, and always "play nice" with each other.
You seem to have mistaken one of these two things for each other. I suggest you correct this perception in order to understand what is going on around you. Or maybe not, you can just remain completely in the dark as to what I'm trying to do here, and completely oblivious as to the point of the GALACTIC CIVIL WAR that is going on in this game (notice it's not called the GALACTIC CIVIL KINDERGARTEN).
Why? Why would you want to infiltrate AR? To be honest i dont percieve the mentality you have here.
Of course you don't. You have mistaken this for Kindergarten.
And as for Eoli he was never going to be let back in, not while i was there.
Yeah, sure, keep telling yourself that. No one else is buying it.
I absoultly knew you would come running here to the boards as soon as i told you (which takes a huge amount of intelligence gathering, dont try and drum up that you are some form of super human fact finding hound)
I never said I was a fact finding hound, or that I used intelligence to get that info. My point was, you are stupid enough to give information directly to your enemy, I am not. Oh, but wait, there are no enemies here, we're all friends. This IS Kindergarten, after all.
So you fell you have toprove to everyone that you are betterthan me to prove you worth? Interesting, very intersting indeed!!
No, actually I did that, because YOU ASKED WHERE I HAD OUTDONE YOU. I showed you. If you didn't care to know how I'd outdone you, you shouldn't have asked for that information. If you're going to ask mea question, then try and make up stupid reasons why I answered it, then maybe I should ignore you completely.
I dont care for such tactics becuase i dont care what DSR is doing.
Not caring what your enemy is doing? Sounds like yet another tactic that works pretty well in Kindergarten, but not too well in War.
"Know your enemy and know yourself" -Sun Tzu, The Art of War, (not The Art of Kindergarten.)
You don't know your enemy, and you don't know yourself. You have no information on me, and you have allowed spies to infiltrate your organization. You have completely failed at executing a War. You have, however been pretty successful with your little Kindergarten over there.
Once again, im flattered that you are so up to date with all our movings, but rest assured we will be moving soon to place that i consider better and more reclusive.
Well if it doesn't bother you, why are you moving again? Please, by all means, keep it right where it is.
You openly admit stealing from another player? Very interesting indeed. I wonder if the CSR's keep an eye on these boards?
First of all, I never used the word steal. I said loot. If you think the two words are identical, then everyone is a thief in this game, because everyone has LOOTED credits from dead NPCs. Oh no! You're a thief too! You better give those credits back or you'll have to go stand in the corner, and no cookies for you.
I stole nothing from another player, I took from THE GUILD. Why? because I had put most of that stuff in there, to benefit the guild, and I decided that your sorry, pathetic guild was not worthy of what it had been given by me.
And mark my words, under my leadership we will thrieve once more under the banner of AR.
I'm gonna save that one, and quote you on it, when your guild completely fails. Thanks for the future ammunition.
Not to make Jastro fill little and like nothing, but in not sure who he is.
That was our BIGGEST inside joke the whole time I was there. If you don't remember that, it proves how out of touch you are with your own guild. And no, I didn't kick him myself, pretty much everyone agreed with me. If you think he's such a great guy, invite him back and put him on your hall admin list. See what happens. I really hope you do, that would be so wonderful.
We are not making this change for you.
Oh, be quiet, lap boy. You said you were making that change in DIRECT RESPONSE to what I told you about you having a spy. Keep telling lies. Keep pretending you didn't do it because of me. You are fooling no one but yourself.
Correct me if im wrong, but isnt it your responsibility to check those that are coming into the PA?
You're right, you shouldn't trust ANY of your people at all. That makes for a great organization. In DSR, everyone has invite/accept permissions, but everyone is responsible enough not to abuse it and invite morons into the guild. If that had been the case in AR, there would have been 10 times the morons there were.
At the most we had 25 people
Actually, it was 37 at its peak, not including affiliates. Once again, shows how much you know about your own guild.
if you had to "accept" a third then im glad you have left, if doing 8 things for a PA is to much, we are better off without you.
Actually if you had a clue, you would know that there's a lot more to running a guild, than just accepting new members and doing nothing else. Well, at least running a SUCCESSFUL guild, anyway.
You arrange this deal if i remember correctly so that CSIN gets half of all our profits.
Actually, it was less than half. Our members got 2cpu, plus half the difference above that. The actual percent varied with the sale price, but it was usually about 35%-40% was his cut. Which isn't bad, considering it makes the sales process WORK FREE for us.
Why wouldnt he want to do this? Free Money. I know i would try and keep such a deal as this going if i could. He may of tipped the PA 1 million in credits, but by your own agreement, he made 1 million out of it himself. Of course he would want to keep such a deal going.
Free money? Umm, sure, whatever. Finding buyers, advertising, taking orders, filling them, and delivering them, and negotiating prices does take a bit of work. YOU HAVE NEVER DONE IT, so I'm sure you would have no idea. However, I do remember you bitching to Eoli and myselfabout how "orders aren't getting filled" and how it was too much for you to handle, taking the orders and filling them. JUST WAIT TILL YOU HAVE TO DO ALL THE REST AS WELL. You will learn, my young apprentice.
Oh, and if money is such a concern for you, and not taking less than we could get, why was it you who proposed that we NOT SELL WOOLY HIDE FOR 75 CREDITS PER UNIT, AND SELL IT FOR 10 CPU INSTEAD. You said we were "not upholding our honor" to those we took orders from. Umm, I'm sorry, but you have no idea how business works.
The point of business is to make money, not be all happy and fluffy and create warm fuzzy feelings, once again you mistake something for Kindergarten, do we see a pattern here?
Yes it is your fault. It is you fault and your downfall if a friend ask you for help and then you abandon him at signs of trouble no matter how many times he has asked you. It is up to you to fix it so it isnt a crap car.
Now this just leaves me speechless. I don't even know what to say to you, this is so completely ridiculous an answer.
IT IS MY FAULT FORD MADE A PIECE OF **edit** CAR AND SOLD IT TO MY FRIEND? IT IS UP TO ME???
Ok, by the same logic, your friend gets scammed out of some money, and you try to help him get it back. You can't get it back IT'S NOW YOUR FAULT HE GOT SCAMMED IN THE FIRST PLACE. YOU ARE JUST AS BAD AS THE PERSON WHO SCAMMED HIM AND YOU MUST BE A FILTHY DESPICABLE PERSON FOR TRYING TO HELP YOUR FRIEND OUT AND NOT BEING ABLE TO.
If that's really how you think, you are the biggest moron that ever walked the planet. You have no concept of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for your own problems, and you must think it's okay for everyone to run around blaming everything on everyone else in the world. I mean if you screw up, just ask your friends for help and when they can't help you YOU GET TO BLAME YOUR PROBLEMS ON THEM!!!!
Now that that's settled, I'm gonna gobecome an alcoholic,beat my wife, molest all my children, and then ask a friend for help. When the cops show up, I'll tell them to arrest my friend, because it's all his fault I did it in the first place.