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Thread: No more Why do the Devs ignore us threads...

blackplastick
Tue Jul 13, 2004 7:42 am
#27




No, I think he is saying that after almost a whole year of the devs promising to fix us and stating that they are "listening" to us, it is high time that we DEMANDED it. Demanding to have the class fixed after this long is NOT flaming, and its NOT whining. 366 days (leapyear) is PLENTY of time to fix at LEAST some small bugs that plague our class. If anything you people who get onto us for saying something about it are the whiners and sissys, not us. Grow some balls and stand up for our class.


As for myself I am going to post in other forums as well until something is done or my account is banned.




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blackplastick
Tue Jul 13, 2004 7:46 am
#28






Calculus_Entropy wrote:

For the record, I never said anyone couldn't rant/flame/etc. I stated that "THE DEVS HATE US" (and other phrases) were not productive, and would be requested to be deleted.







So are you denying the fact that we have been ignored? Is it not true we were told we would be revamped almost a year ago and since then nothing has happened? Why is it counterproductive to remind them what we were told? It is not productive to tell us that this is not productive. Your post are more of a waste of space and time than the posts which you are referring to. At least somebody is trying to get something done instead of sitting there and crossing their fingers in a corner. Nothing will get done that way.



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Owen-Lars
Tue Jul 13, 2004 7:57 am
#29

I'd rather they work on us slowly, then give us a botch-job.







Yeah aslong as we get some in depth and detailed features im happy as i can be. Dont mind waiting for them if we get something rewarding at the end of it.



THORTAC BALCOR
The Lost Ranger
RANGER
Calculus_Entropy
Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:05 am
#30






blackplastick wrote:





Calculus_Entropy wrote:

For the record, I never said anyone couldn't rant/flame/etc. I stated that "THE DEVS HATE US" (and other phrases) were not productive, and would be requested to be deleted.







So are you denying the fact that we have been ignored? Where have I denied this? Is it not true we were told we would be revamped almost a year ago and since then nothing has happened? Show me where were were ever promised a revamp. When Holocron posted his Corr Feedback post, they weren't even doing 'Revamps' yet. Why is it counterproductive to remind them what we were told? Remind away, I neve said you couldn't do that.




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Calculus Entropy
Ranger Blue Glowie Emeritus
Garindan used /areatrack to find Han.
Jedi_Titus
Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:12 am
#31






Owen-Lars wrote:

I'd rather they work on us slowly, then give us a botch-job.







Yeah aslong as we get some in depth and detailed features im happy as i can be. Dont mind waiting for them if we get something rewarding at the end of it.







Most of us (including myself) would agree. The problem is we are not getting worked on at all, zero, nodda, zilch, non, nothing, goose egg. Nor is anything even on the horizon.



Back to the topic. I agree I don't care for the "wwwaaaa the devs hate us wwwaaa" posts. The devs don't hate us and are not out to **edit** us. But do we get enough of those annoying posts to actually warrant a sticky thread on it? Is our community that bad and abunch of cry babies? I don't think so. We do and get a lot less whining that most of the other boards. Personally I think Calc just needed to vent a bit... venting done. Now let's let the thread drop into the murky deep. no sticky needed.




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Owen-Lars
Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:23 am
#32

Bump only messing heh



Yeah shame we arnt getting any work but the devs are busy atm. I just wish we could get some feedback on some ideas we post, not even things like this can be done or it cant, just like, nice ideas guys, i would realy love to have blah blah blah too.



THORTAC BALCOR
The Lost Ranger
RANGER
poser00002
Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:26 am
#33

Hey cal i have seen a few posts over the last year from devs that have said misc things about ranger not sure what posts or what have u been on to many boards over the last year lol. BUt a few things were to do with traps and other things like forage that has no point and they wanted to make it work for what it was intened for. There are just little things over time that get posted u know the devs some times with double talk lol. But it would be nice just for one dev any dev to pop in one day and leave a feed back post to us. Nothing fancy long but just a few things if they are going to revamp us this year, next year, going to fix a few things. Just to hear something from them would be kinda nice to hear. Other then combat and gcw revamp based stuff. I know that they get alot of things to do but how much time would it take TH to stop in type up a 5-10 min post just to give us a little info.


One the note to wait and have a good revamp then just a make shift revamp. I would like to wait to but there is limits to that. What do we have to wait an other year to get some love? This i think is just bs to wait 2 years since the game is out to get love. Even to just make a quick little fix as to give us more harvest and a few good items to forage would be nice why we wait a year to get a revamp. I like ranger and happy to be one in sound. I hope to wait for a revamp and love, but on the note with eq2 comming out and if the rangers in that game are good. It would be worth it to leave sw:g to go play a game that has working rangers. That is one reason i started playing sw:g was to be ranger, but if there is really no point to be ranger why play?


Sorry ventting a little bad day with csrs (time warner cable)



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Squidwalker
Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:29 am
#34






Deadtech wrote:

Hey if I can sit in camps and do the entire scout survival tree and the ranger frontiering tree all alone in a reclusive area of dath then I think I can wait for changes to be made. I'm in no hurry, so you won't hear me complaining. I like what I'm doing with my Ranger right now.






Good. But not to down play you, but how long have you been a ranger? I have worked for it since day one of the game starting as scout. and have heald master ranger since I got it, about 7-8 months ago. I'm tired of waiting.



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Calculus_Entropy
Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:31 am
#35








Jedi_Titus wrote:


Back to the topic. I agree I don't care for the "wwwaaaa the devs hate us wwwaaa" posts. The devs don't hate us and are not out to **edit** us. But do we get enough of those annoying posts to actually warrant a sticky thread on it? Is our community that bad and abunch of cry babies? I don't think so. We do and get a lot less whining that most of the other boards. Personally I think Calc just needed to vent a bit... venting done. Now let's let the thread drop into the murky deep. no sticky needed.





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Calculus Entropy
Ranger Blue Glowie Emeritus
Garindan used /areatrack to find Han.
Owen-Lars
Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:35 am
#36

Deadtech wrote:

Hey if I can sit in camps and do the entire scout survival tree and the ranger frontiering tree all alone in a reclusive area of dath then I think I can wait for changes to be made. I'm in no hurry, so you won't hear me complaining. I like what I'm doing with my Ranger right now.







Yeah the problem is balancing the amount of 'moaning' we do. I dont want to ruin this great forum we have here. I feel so comfortable with putting ideas across and getting feedback, i never want to change.

Many of the rangers who have held it for a very long time, myself included are at the end of the ranger rope and have been for some time with lack of skills and un utilised potential and weare getting tired.


Dont get me wrong i am happy to wait it out to get great features but what i wouldnt give for a response on our ideas or a request to thick out our existing ideas with great detail so they can be guaged for implementation.



THORTAC BALCOR
The Lost Ranger
RANGER
Squidwalker
Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:39 am
#37






Vorpaks wrote:
I agree with Calc on this one. Frankly I rather wait a year for changes then have our board resemble the BH or (shudder) the Jedi board. The BH board actually has Garvas rules and regulations STICKIED. That is a big yellow caution sign for me - you do not want to go there.

The only time I ever click on the flame posts is when I am in a grumpy mood and want to yell at someone lol. Ya, I know. Not helping.

Otherwise I just ignore them. I wish there was a button I could press to make them dissapear for my screen so there is more room for the interesting/informational posts.



Umm it has beena year. Game came out a year ago June 26th, and the last time we got any attention and was dropped without completing it or even a goodby, was Aug. Nearly a year from now.




Teranus Blan'Fyl
OldSchool Ranger
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Squidwalker
Tue Jul 13, 2004 8:57 am
#38






Calculus_Entropy wrote:





blackplastick wrote:





Calculus_Entropy wrote:

For the record, I never said anyone couldn't rant/flame/etc. I stated that "THE DEVS HATE US" (and other phrases) were not productive, and would be requested to be deleted.







So are you denying the fact that we have been ignored? Where have I denied this? Is it not true we were told we would be revamped almost a year ago and since then nothing has happened? Show me where were were ever promised a revamp. When Holocron posted his Corr Feedback post, they weren't even doing 'Revamps' yet. Why is it counterproductive to remind them what we were told? Remind away, I neve said you couldn't do that.




My comments in Green.








Yes you are right Calc, they weren't doing revamps back then, they didnt exist yet. And Holo moved on to a different position. But neither of those reasons are valid enough for us to get ignored. Heck, we didn't even get Holo or anyone to come say "hey sorry, Holo got promoted, we got other things to work on, sorry we can't continue with you right now". That is pretty disrespectful actually. The fact that they weren't doing "official revamps" basically means they stopped us short in the middle of an "old revamp". That is one way to look at it.


I feel for you right now Calc with the flak you are now getting. But imagine if in the middle of this smuggler revamp, they get like 2 new things(ie /conceal /areatrack) and then nothing more, not even a goodby, or sorry, or be back later from the devs. Just crickets. Can you imagine just how pissed off the smugglers would be, and rightfully so, if that happened. That's basically what happened to us though, and we are supposed to keep quite now. It's been nearly a year since Holo's post and the work we did get. And in that year we have been quite, and constructive and calm, and curtious. I'm tired of it.


Folks I'm not saying have them run in here, make some fast and furious changes and blow out. No. I want to be told we will get work, AND WHEN, exactly. I do want a nice proper slow, testing, feedback get it right type dev time for us. Anyone remember how fast they actually got /conceal and /areatrack into the game? Pretty damn fast actually. Now maybe it was already partially coded, and was the stuff that didn't get finished before launch. The point being, we need work just the same as other professions that got or are getting revamps and are on the actual schedule. I think we need more work actually then some, but thats MHO.



Calc, do you really think our "correspondant issues" time is going to be enough for all that ranger is lacking right now? I'm asking your opinion of what you truely feel ranger needs. Do you feel it needs a full ravamp or just some tweeking here and there to go in on a mini publish?




Teranus Blan'Fyl
OldSchool Ranger
Short-Timer
Owen-Lars
Tue Jul 13, 2004 9:03 am
#39

Could we atleastget calc to startstickied post named as FAO: THUNDERHEART!


Then have a collection of quality questions andpetitions as to why we got shifted to the back of the que and left in the dark. We could add those similarities about smuggler revamp example because it starts a good discussion point and forces even non rangers to say hey i wouldnt like that.


Hopefully this could be our main 'venting' post and clear the rest of the forum up for discussions and development ideas.


We could push for a response on this matter because there is no reason why we shouldnt be back on course to get our updates.



THORTAC BALCOR
The Lost Ranger
RANGER
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