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Thread: Would this change the value of resources?

Seiryuu
Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:47 am
#14

The use of swgcraft does change from server to server. I don't go out of my way to gather the current resources, but as I hunt I will write down the various stats (/note is awesome for this) and check it against the site.

It's easier for me to use the site since I won't have people relying specifically on my updates to get that information each week and the site is already set up for it, mostly. [Note: It doesn't have Kashyyyk and the resource tree is still unavailable. ]

I also think usuage is kind of controlled by all the players. If everyone feels that no one is updating it, they don't bother doing so either. For that to change, a couple of dedicated people are going to have to do what they can and encourage others to contribute.



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BioEngine
Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:54 pm
#15

I smell an exploit in this.



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Calculus_Entropy
Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:57 pm
#16

I don't think it tells you if a spawn is current or not...it lists all spawns by type, then name...



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alphane
Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:23 pm
#17

Its not an exploit. the crate of free resource give all the stats of any past and present resources , and for example, selecting the wooly hidetree , give the stats of the last available wooly on each planet, at the end of the list. as you have for a given day only one hide resource for a given hide type you are sure to know what is the current name of the resource , its location and its stats. thats why in this case the crate is very convenient but why it gives too a significant advantage to the crate owners.


for inorganic and organic non-single type of resources you will have to use survey droid at least. but once you know what is where all you have to do is open the crate and browse the lists. it take less than a half of hour to know all the stats of all the current resources ofa givenserver.


Its a fact , thats all.



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Bekan
Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:45 pm
#18



Since I've not played long enough to get one, I don't know how the crates work, or I should say, are intended to work. I was under the impression that you are given a crate, and there is a selection list so you can choose a resource, then when you choose the resource, you get a crate of that resource, and that's it.


Is this how they are supposed to work? Or are they indeed supposed to be a constantly updating list by which you can know the values of all the possible resources?


Never mind. I took the time to look up the reward in the Items and Loot forum. I hate to break it to you, but you're using the reward not as it was intended to be used, therefor the way your using it would be considered an exploit. The 30k Crate of Free Resource is supposed to be a reward, where you are given a list of all of the available resources from whatever world you happen to be on, and where you are supposed to pick the resource you want, then you are given 30,000 units of said resource.


Using the crate as a permanent lookup tool of the current resource stats of worlds is not using it as it was intended to be used, and therefor you're exploiting it.


Now, it's your personal choice to do so, and you're unlikely to ever be caught using it in that fashion, and I wouldn't ever dream of attempting to be a narc, but I don't choose to look at every game mechanic for loopholes and ways to use them in unintended fashions. That's why I always find out about exploits just AFTER they're fixed.

Message Edited by Bekan on 07-22-2005 06:01 PM



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alphane
Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:01 pm
#19

its intended to be turned into aresource of your choice, one time. they should have to limit its "non-intended" use.



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ioan
Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:09 pm
#20


There seem to be a few rangers on Starsider, including myself, that keep the SWGCraft creature resources fairly current. Some of the hard to find or rarely used resources (e.g. domestic meat, fish or eggs) might be far out of date. But, I think most of them are usually current.




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CeaigaAlSmicea
Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:03 pm
#21







Bekan wrote:



Since I've not played long enough to get one, I don't know how the crates work, or I should say, are intended to work. I was under the impression that you are given a crate, and there is a selection list so you can choose a resource, then when you choose the resource, you get a crate of that resource, and that's it.


Is this how they are supposed to work? Or are they indeed supposed to be a constantly updating list by which you can know the values of all the possible resources?


Never mind. I took the time to look up the reward in the Items and Loot forum. I hate to break it to you, but you're using the reward not as it was intended to be used, therefor the way your using it would be considered an exploit. The 30k Crate of Free Resource is supposed to be a reward, where you are given a list of all of the available resources from whatever world you happen to be on, and where you are supposed to pick the resource you want, then you are given 30,000 units of said resource.


Using the crate as a permanent lookup tool of the current resource stats of worlds is not using it as it was intended to be used, and therefore you're exploiting it.


Now, it's your personal choice to do so, and you're unlikely to ever be caught using it in that fashion, and I wouldn't ever dream of attempting to be a narc, but I don't choose to look at every game mechanic for loopholes and ways to use them in unintended fashions. That's why I always find out about exploits just AFTER they're fixed.

Message Edited by Bekan on 07-22-2005 06:01 PM




How is that an exploit?



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Iseult
Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:22 pm
#22



alphane wrote:

Its not an exploit. the crate of free resource give all the stats of any past and present resources , and for example, selecting the wooly hide tree , give the stats of the last available wooly on each planet, at the end of the list. as you have for a given day only one hide resource for a given hide type you are sure to know what is the current name of the resource , its location and its stats. thats why in this case the crate is very convenient but why it gives too a significant advantage to the crate owners.

for inorganic and organic non-single type of resources you will have to use survey droid at least. but once you know what is where all you have to do is open the crate and browse the lists. it take less than a half of hour to know all the stats of all the current resources of a given server.

Its a fact , thats all.




Ahhh thanks....

I didn't mean to touch off an extended exploit debate, so I promise never to admit to using my crate of free resources in this way :>

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Calculus_Entropy
Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:01 am
#23


shane4bes wrote:

I think it would be cool to put something like this on the SWGRanger page.



If SWGCraft is, indeed, getting fewer and fewer updates, this might be a good idea.



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alphane
Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:05 am
#24


I'm sorry to say that but the use of veteran reward "crate of free resource"give todayto anyone the possibility to check, without to move to any planet, any kind of organic or inorganic resources stats. It makes , actually, a site like swgcraft.com completely useless. Im really surprised they didnt give to these crates a limit to their use. Past a certain time you should have to use it or see it destroyed.


Theyshould be bio linked to the players too imho.





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LastEE
Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:11 pm
#25

if you're planning on taking the time to get stats, SWGCraft is still the logical place to post the data. You can often tell what's stale and not by how long it's been around.

I too used to make it a mission to update SWGCraft with all creature resources on one or two planets at-least once a week but found it taking much longer than I wanted to spend, so now it's hit and miss but I still use it religiously. Especially if I look up something (example dath bone) and get there and it's different than what's listed then I try to update it.

I think it's a highly valuable service, I just SWGManager was still working also for lookups with my DE



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