Ranger Archive
Thread: For the sake of ALL professions, we need your help
Fred_Skinner wrote:... and we should be able to use our traps on them, BUT WE CAN'T! ...Next...
FormlessOne wrote:Jedi should have this power - and Creature Handlers should have a variable chance to regain control. But, please, drop the "what if your weapon turned against you" hyperbole. It's not a "weapon", but a separate entity. I'm hoping that they'll be able to do the same thing to combat-capable droids, too.
I agree...we should be able to use our traps on both the Jedi and the pets....but having us cry in the CH forums will do you no good....look how far us asking for fixes has gotten us......A year, almost, later and still big donuts for fixes....nothing...
If you are just a creature handler with no other combat profession as a backup then you need to rethink your template.....When I was a Master Rnger/Master CH I was still able to have the pistols line and I think novice pistoleer with some ranged support thrown in....now, if they (Jedi) could take control of your pistol AND pet then we may have a serious issue....My 2 cents worth.
Not true, Jedi's have already taken plenty from us... they are better hunters then we are! If you want to be a hunter, be a Jedi, not a ranger. If you visit Dathomir sometime on Bria, you'll see them out there slaying everything in sight. Enraged Rancors and the like all come tumbling down. And this was before the revamp.
I'm pretty amazed at the ranger take on such issues in recent weeks. We asked all other crafter forums to their support with our issues, then we don't reciprocate that? And then there was the debacle with the ranger quest idea where we basically told tailors "tough luck". Owch. I think a lot of this "ranger temperment", "ranger helpfulness" and all that is starting to become a myth. Or perhaps it's more of a "rural legend" if you will.
Flynn_Nomad wrote:
What could a jedi do to a Ranger?
Take away a Rangers rescue?
Really, what could a Jedi take from a Ranger, they don't HAVE ANYTHING TO TAKE!
- I mean my rifleman has all his abilities taken away when he is kd/dizzy from a tk. That is an ability they posses that takes away all a players combat effectiveness more or less.
- As a ranger i connot harvest whilst blinded. This does not relate to pvp however it is still one of our best abilities (to harvest organics) and even wild creatures can do this to us.
Pets are there (as are droids) to fight along side their master no for their master. People may have different oppinions on whether pets should do the damage or the player should fight alongside the pets, however i hated it when swg was turned into pokemon wars as did most people. Pets were very powerful then and would sometimes be more powerfull than the player who controls them. This imo was wrong and needed fixing.
The point of this is that if you plan on taking on players such as jedi you shouldnt have a chance in hell of fighting one with ch alone, it is not a combat class its a suport class. This is also relevant to the 'taking away our weapon' point. All this should do is reduce your combat effectiveness, it will take one damage outlet (the pet) away from you but you should still have your other.
Maybe the skill needs some working, maybe to freeze the animal instead of turn it on their master, or require the ch to do something to 'clear' the creatures mind.
All in all you are not the only class that gets things taken away by other player's skillsand you do not have your main weapon taken away from you (if so you deserve to die against jedi end of story). All this skill does is reduce your combat effectivness, you should still beable to use your primary combat skills to great effect.
GoldMemberBria wrote:Not true, Jedi's have already taken plenty from us... they are better hunters then we are! If you want to be a hunter, be a Jedi, not a ranger. If you visit Dathomir sometime on Bria, you'll see them out there slaying everything in sight. Enraged Rancors and the like all come tumbling down. And this was before the revamp.
I'm pretty amazed at the ranger take on such issues in recent weeks. We asked all other crafter forums to their support with our issues, then we don't reciprocate that? And then there was the debacle with the ranger quest idea where we basically told tailors "tough luck". Owch. I think a lot of this "ranger temperment", "ranger helpfulness" and all that is starting to become a myth. Or perhaps it's more of a "rural legend" if you will.
Flynn_Nomad wrote:What could a jedi do to a Ranger?Take away a Rangers rescue?Really, what could a Jedi take from a Ranger, they don't HAVE ANYTHING TO TAKE!
we asked crafters for something? when was that, and what was it about, because I don't remember seeing anything about it.
I did see the "ranger quest" thing, and it was one guys idea, and it basically made one set of clothes that weren't tailor made... I don't see how that ruins things for tailors. There are weapons and armor that can only be used by wookies but you don't hear me complaining about it.
Anyway, as far as the CH issue, while I am sorry their pets are now vulnerable to a jedi ability, I don't see where "this can happen to you" really scares me at all. Simply because the fact that the only thing we really do well is harvest, and anybody with novice scout and a good droid can do that.
sorry to disagree, but that's how it goes.
Seraph00X wrote:
we asked crafters for something? when was that, and what was it about, because I don't remember seeing anything about it.
It shouldnt be your main weapon, your weapon YOU are holding is your main weapon and should be used to take down the target, the pet simply HELPS you do that job.
So me being a CH/BE/Ranger have no place, ever, in PvP is what you are saying? Do you also believe that Ranger should be PvE only and have no place in PvP, ever?
I also find it silly to insist CH must be taken with another profession to be effective. Is there any other profession that requires taking other professions to accomplish what should be allowed on its own? How long have the Rangers been asking for some sort of innate combat abilities, yet here you are trying to deny this to someone else?
GoldMemberBria wrote:
Not true, Jedi's have already taken plenty from us... they are better hunters then we are! If you want to be a hunter, be a Jedi, not a ranger. If you visit Dathomir sometime on Bria, you'll see them out there slaying everything in sight. Enraged Rancors and the like all come tumbling down. And this was before the revamp.
I'm pretty amazed at the ranger take on such issues in recent weeks. We asked all other crafter forums to their support with our issues, then we don't reciprocate that? And then there was the debacle with the ranger quest idea where we basically told tailors "tough luck". Owch. I think a lot of this "ranger temperment", "ranger helpfulness" and all that is starting to become a myth. Or perhaps it's more of a "rural legend" if you will.
Flynn_Nomad wrote:
What could a jedi do to a Ranger?
Take away a Rangers rescue?
Really, what could a Jedi take from a Ranger, they don't HAVE ANYTHING TO TAKE!
Our temperment and helpfullness has not changed. Frankly I think it being called into question is baseless. All that is being said in this thread is that it doesn't affect us to the degree that it does CH. I do agree with you when you say that Jedi are better hunters than we. I have a screenie somewhere of a Jedi on our server literally covered in Faamba. He had killed so many Faamba you can barely make his name out in the pile of corpses. Which means he was killing them and harvesting them so fast we can still see the corpses.
Respectfully,