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Thread: Do The Devs Read This Board?
EV500 wrote:
What we want is acknowledgement from that Devs that there are problems with our profession and that they are willing to address them. What we also want is for them to at least pop on this board at least once a month to see thats going on. Is that too much to ask? I guess it is.
He gave us acknowledgement in the first of the 19 Questions. He acknowledged we we're lacking and that we needed help. You want him to repeat this once a month until our revamp? Doesn't that seem a little pointless to you?
DND_Cas wrote:
EV500 wrote:
What we want is acknowledgement from that Devs that there are problems with our profession and that they are willing to address them. What we also want is for them to at least pop on this board at least once a month to see thats going on. Is that too much to ask? I guess it is.
He gave us acknowledgement in the first of the 19 Questions. He acknowledged we we're lacking and that we needed help. You want him to repeat this once a month until our revamp? Doesn't that seem a little pointless to you?
As I stated when Istarted this thread, any responces from the 19 questions do not count. Well it doesnt matter anyway, I am home from work and dropping Ranger. Perhaps when we get a revamp Ill come back. I wish you all the best of luck.
Well I don't believe what I don't see. There is a post just today from JustG in BH responding to the devs not posting in there for one lousy day, and just saying "I always troll". Greenmarine has not been in here for a long time, admited by himself.
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
I thought we established that they DO read these boards! The problem is that they don't post. You want them to post, but you don't want a fluff answer. If they don't have anything other than fluff to post,then why do we want them to post? "We know you have issues' is the fluffy response we can possibly get. I know they know of our problems...I make them aware of those problems myself! The fact of the matter is, we aren't Star Wars Icons. We don't sell the game, so we don't have a high priority (it sucks but it is a fact of life, people). The Devsvery. very rarelypost in any other Profession forums (minus Greenmarine with the Smuggler revamp) so why should we be any different?
Actually, Calc, neither is chef, and they got a huge revamp. The others, DE, Smuggler, and even eewwww, Entertainer, are StarWars icons. But from the orginal post, the devs have not posted in here since Q3PO posted our Coor Feedback. So going off of that, we are still waiting on those changes he stated in that. You know, the ones he actually commited to, and didn't just say we will try, or would like to do. That post was in Aug, that's ummmmmmm A YEAR ago.
So, based on what you said and devs, if you make a huge stink stand up, are completely impatient, don't care about any profession but your own, rant and flame the devs into oblivian, we get a responce? I point your attention to the BH forums starting Monday.
So BH get nerfed in major parts of their professions do to other prof updates. 1. jedi revamp makes BH nearly useless against new jedi, jedi missions got wacked, and the weapon delay hinders their specific weapon specials. 2. a few minor other prof or game changes, made noticable changes for BH. 3. Jedi missions don't work right or at all for a while after implementation. The devs constantly work on it, tweek it, talk with BH for a few months trying to get it fixed for them. They **edit** and whine and yell and actually name call and flame the devs, what the devs said they will NEVER respond to.
Now, a parallel of that above we look at ranger.1. camps got nerfed big time by not being needed forpets/droids anymore. You don't need them to heal wounds with med bots, and their repel never really worked right. So they are Utterly useless other then looks. 2. One of thetwo traps(which is already a nerf) we have is discovered to be useless because it gives dizzy that we are told has NEVER worked on animals. 3. Harvesting droids cut into the one thing ranger had an advantage for,the harvesting bonus. Stack that on top of non rangers can spend more on combat and harvest more in time then us. 4. /areatrack was implemented along with /conceal and we found bugs with them, but have yet to even hear a reponce back to acknowledge it, let alone get dev feedback. We stay reasonably calm, quite and discuss ideas and problems with ourselves, attempting to get the devs attention. We don't go around flaming the devs, we tend to think of the "game" picture and otherprofessions. AND WE GET NOTHING FOR A YEAR!!!
Don't get me wrong, they did get the big pooch screw lately and I even posted in there to help them out. But the point is, devs do post in prof forums, have done rather often and really really frequently. And no, the 19 Answers do not count, for those are not IN the prof forum, and are expected.
I'm understanding where you are coming from Calc on the devs point of view. Hell all the attention for the bloody jedi is proof enough where the devs loyalties lie. But that doesn't cut it with me. I'm one of those, "dont discriminate then tell me not to" kinds of guys. We all pay for the game, we all play the game, we all bring people into the game to pay and play. A lot of us contribute to the game, and the community as a character/player and the devs. As lame as it might sound, they need to play fair. There is nothing in the EULA that says certain areas, professions in the game take presidence over others.
So take that comparison to TH.
Message Edited by Squidwalker on 06-30-200404:01 PM
Message Edited by Squidwalker on 06-30-2004 04:01 PM
We never established that they read the board, other then you saying so.
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
I thought we established that they DO read these boards! The problem is that they don't post. You want them to post, but you don't want a fluff answer. If they don't have anything other than fluff to post,then why do we want them to post? "We know you have issues' is the fluffy response we can possibly get. I know they know of our problems...I make them aware of those problems myself! The fact of the matter is, we aren't Star Wars Icons. We don't sell the game, so we don't have a high priority (it sucks but it is a fact of life, people). The Devsvery. very rarelypost in any other Profession forums (minus Greenmarine with the Smuggler revamp) so why should we be any different?
DND_Cas wrote:
There is nothing in the EULA that says certain areas, professions in the game take presidence over others.
Unfortunately all proffessions are not created equal. Thats the problem paying for continually updated content. We all pay the same money - so it simply comes down to a numbers game. There are less of us than almost any other profession.
That said if they release updates for JTL before they get around to giving Ranger, and any of the others that havn't been seen to by then, a revamp then that'll be the dividing line for me on this issue. This is something we absolutely have to make sure does not come to pass.
/fullheartedlyagree I'm trying to not even think about that possibility. In my eye, Greenmarine is our Dev. He is wrapping up working on JTL whom is the primary dev for. Then he is doing the smuggler revamp. I do not believe he is the squad leader dev, but if he is, Ranger had best be the next revamp after SL. Either way actually ranger had better be the next revamp after SL. That is after CB, GCW revamp, and the JTL, not to mention the 2 revamps I mentioned above.
I know it shouldn't, but it does.
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Maybe I should have said...Is there anyhting in the works that requires a 'substance' response?
For all of you who just want to se a redname post no matter what it is....
/in his best TH impression
Wait for the combat balance.
Is that kind of a response what people want a Dev to post in our forum? If so, I will have TH post that for you.
Yes Calc, please belittle us by "asking" TH to make a post in out fourms just to shut us up, thats just what we are looking for.