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SioBabble

Wed Aug 31, 2005 7:31 am

AgonThalia wrote:
The ways you can find a Jedi:

1: Sound: jedi make a distinctive whine when out in the wild, listen for the "im cold", "im hot", "im hungry", "omg, im a jedi, that *instert animal/npc/bh* cant kill me", "i got the shaft again", "where's my blanket", "this sand is getting everywhere", "whats a ranger?"
follow the sound, and you cant lose them.

2: Smell: jedi are known for their fetish for anything new. They must have the latest speeder, saber etc: each new item has a "new smell" once you smell that, you know its a jedi (you may be confused with alts, association with jedi passes along several traits)

3: Footprints: the footprint of a jedi is unique, its step.. step... step... then a patch of ground where they stomped around and complained for a while, if you find that "stomping patch" then you know its a jedi.

4: Language: if in a larger group, jedi tend to shorten long words, like "u" for "you" and "omg" for "oh my god". this is a tough one, since again, association with jedi can rub off bad habits.

hope this helps.

OMG! U nailed them! Brilliant! /stomp Perfectly! Genius, indeed! U pwn them! /stomp

Tazz vonMannstein Baron-Administrator of Corellia, master navigator of Corellia, captain of the Gregarious Gurreck

Sio Babble MBH/MCH/Cabana Boy; master of Tyson, the GNORT OF DEATH

Jeffn Akbar Nerfed from here to Lok MD/MCM

Zanti Agaesia Bothan MBE, 12 point Master Chef, Havoc Squadron Ace pilot

MsNiL

Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:36 pm

#15

I took the coward's way out, and deleted my comment...sorry.

Message Edited by MsNiL on 09-01-2005 07:50 PM

--- Cancelled 24th November 2006
Reason: The lack of multiplayer pve content and Star Wars feel.
For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.

DaveG

Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:07 pm

#16

MsNiL wrote:

So I walk over to the Ranger forum to ask some questions, and the first thing I see is a whinepost about a Jedi bugfix for a bug that been around for 5 months.

Nice going Rangers. Great image you give yourself with that attitude

Well, you see, it's not just Rangers. Everyone dislikes the image Jedi's have given themselves due to their attitude. Furthermore, everyone resents how the squeekiest wheel seems to get the most attention.

But if you want to hold that against one of the most neglected professions in the game, then I humbly apologise. Us Rangers and will go off and play in the new expansion that SOE made for us. Oh wait, it wasn't for us, you Jedi's got that too.

Message Edited by DaveG on 08-31-2005 10:09 PM

Freelance hunter and pilot - Available for hire.
Correcting the timeline, one Jedi at a time.
Sheriff of Mos Aga'me, 1KM West of Mos Eisely, Tatooine, Farstar. IGN: DaveG
I didn't use buffs or uber armour, so why did the combat revamp have to spoil my game?
John Smedley and SOE: Reap what you sow

Calculus_Entropy

Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:16 pm

#17

I took the coward's way out, and deleted my comment...sorry.

Message Edited by Calculus_Entropy on 08-31-2005 03:19 PM

Calculus Entropy
Ranger Blue Glowie Emeritus
Garindan used /areatrack to find Han.

Kinshi

Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:16 pm

#18

Not just the squeaky wheel syndrome, its the fact the Jedi are the biggest and most desiredplayer demographic. Its simple marketing that the biggest demographics get the most attention.

Now you know what it feels like to be part of a minoritygroup :-)

MsNiL

Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:21 pm

#19

DaveG wrote:
Well, you see, it's not just Rangers. Everyone dislikes the image Jedi's have given themselves due to their attitude. Furthermore, everyone resents how the squeekiest wheel seems to get the most attention.

But if you want to hold that against one of the most neglected professions in the game, then I humbly apologise. Us Rangers and will go off and play in the new expansion that SOE made for us. Oh wait, it wasn't for us, you Jedi's got that too.

Hey, Make the Ranger's the best pvp profession in the game, with forced pvp progression, with noconsequencesfor embracing"The Dark Side",and you will suck up ***holes like a sponge making all attempts to play a serious roleplaying Ranger impossible becouse everybody hates you and your kind.

The sad part is that only Roleplayers pick up Master Force Wielder (it's too worthless/redundant for pvp players), and even if Cloak is THEIR skill, pvp-hungry powerdabblers will eventually nerf that power asunder like everything else they prey on.

As someone who play a Master Force Healer (thats been redundant since Mars btw) and a Light Side (that been penalized/nonsupported since publish 9) roleplayer I am very tired of the situation. I stopped to play that character completely and now I am grinding a Ranger/SquadLeader on TestCenter becouse I am used to pain. I have been in-game married. Twice.

--- Cancelled 24th November 2006
Reason: The lack of multiplayer pve content and Star Wars feel.
For 3 years I have tried to find excuses to stay in game but only the expansions offered me what I subscribed for in the first place: A multiplayer Star Wars pve experience with friends around the globe. I found friends but with almost no addition of pve content they dropped out one by one. Now it's my turn.

Lorrowyn

Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:24 pm

#20

Let's all just play Jedi. That seems to be what the devs want anyway. Play anything other than that and you wait forever to get a decent change.

Whining gets you everywhere it seems.

Still, it's impressive that we Rangers are holding steadfast. That's encouraging.

-----
Iconic professions. Ok. Chewbacca was a Scout. How come that didn't stay?

When you think about it, aren't almost all of the original professions iconic? You can find something on each of them in the Expanded Universe.

I miss being a Ranger. It was more than a profession, it was a virtual way of life. It wasn't for everyone. But those who took it up became family.

AragornSoS

Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:45 pm

#21

Come on guys, MsNil IS a minority group. She's got the ability to claim she plays the absolutely least popular MASTERED professions of them all... look at her Jedi template.

That said, I think that it's not so much a case of Rangers (or anyone) really being upset about jedi or any other profession getting a bug fixed. I'd probably debate the claim that the bug with cloaking still showing a shadow being around for 5 or moremonths tho, since the CU didn't actually go live until what, the end of April, which means we're just about the 4 month point, but that might be splitting hairs. And it still doesn't come close to beating how long Smugglers have been waiting to smuggler, or how long Rangers have been waiting on a revamp, on a purpose, on a set of fixes to make us something other than the single biggest skillpoint sink in the game.

The biggest issue, at least to me,isn't that they got a fix... it's that they are STILL getting fixes, and lots of 'em, at the expense of professions that are far more broken, and that have been waiting far longer. Or atthe expense of entire portions of the game (quests both ground and space) that have been broken for months now, with not even a hint that there's a fix being worked on. I know, and agree with you, that Healer and some of the less popular discipline masteries haven't gotten much (or any) attention, but *in general*, the jedi disciplines as a whole have gotten FAR more in the way of publishes, fixes, content, skills, abilities, hotfixes, and general attention than ANY other profession in the game. I also realize that the debate over whether the profession is "jedi" (to include 5 disciplines that allow you to specialize in various areas of jedi lore) or the profession is the discipline itself, with 5 "jedi-based professions", is a bit of a slippery slope.

Is it wrong to blame jedi entirely? Probably, since some of these decisionscome from SOE or LA. But you can't sit here, in this forum, or with Smugglers, Commandos, CHs, SLs, pilots of all factions, DEs, Tailors, ASs, WSs, etc etc -- and tell us with a straight face that the biggest, squeakist, whiniest wheel hasn't gotten just GOBS of grease thrown onit time and time again. We've gotalmost 50% of the Scout and Rangerbranches that are completely and utterly useless (camping) or broken (trapping)due to being rendered obsolete, pointless or broken by the CU and other changes to the game,we've got 25% of the Scout and Ranger branchesdecimated by the changes to harvesting brought aboutwith the CU (and I say decimated since our ONLY real "purpose"in the game pre-CU was to be the elite harvesters... now we are easily beaten by novice scout groups with multiple elite combat masteries that pull missions and harvest so much that there is no NEED for a Ranger tobe able to pull large amounts of organics). The final branches give uswalk/run speed and crawl speed that's mostly useless, and can often be matched by someone wihtout any scout atall with CAs and modded clothes, and maskscent and camo abiltities that have been give out to everyone or that are mostly pointless with the changes to agro and AI. Yet we sit here, day after day, mostly quietly coming up with more and more cool ways to improve our profession, sending them off to the devs by way ofour great corrs like Paks, Owen and Calc (back for more abuse)... and it's gotten us exactly nowhere. Our skillshave been summarily handed out without regard for the affect to this profession, and our abilities and purpose in the game has been eroded by change after changetaking incremental bites out of the usefulness of darn near everything we have.

None of us have any idea about what's coming outside of what SOE tells us. For all I know, Tiggs could be preparing to charge into the Ranger forum right now, to tell us all about the awesome new trapping system they're working on that is just the shauput's pajamas (which were last seen in the vicinity of Owen's apartment, I hear...). But I do have eyes, and a brain, and I'm quite a proficient reader. And I see where the majority of posts are on the boards, we ALL see the "What about pearls?!!" posts following just about every post that Tiggs or TH make these days, and for every reasonable, mature jedi out there like yourself who are willing to discuss things and help better the ENTIRE game, I see 10 or 100 or 500 whining little brats who probably need mommy or daddy to revoke thier computer privileges for a while, and seek nothing more than to dominate and ruin the game play of most every other player in the game. Most of the time, you'll see some of us pop up out of our forum either to cheer our friends in other professions when they get something good, or to call "Shennanigans!" on those posters who are posting stuff about Ranger or other professions we play that's just dead wrong.

Ah well... welcome to the Ranger family! I hope this means you'll be adding all our missing stuff to that cool post you did pointing out all the broken things across all professions. For example, all your stuff on states forgot all the Scout & Ranger traps, which are where most of those states actually came from (and rather like many of the combat moves, don't seem to work all that well, or at all, these days).

Dekiion G'Dulth
Colonel | Imperial Sector Rangers
"What others abandon, we protect."

Master Ranger / Master Rifleman / Storm Squadron Ace

Phenix1050

Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:10 pm

#22

MsNiL wrote:

So I walk over to the Ranger forum to ask some questions, and the first thing I see is a whinepost about a Jedi bugfix for a bug that been around for 5 months.

Nice going Rangers. Great image you give yourself with that attitude

Just as you ask peoplenot to judge all Jedi by the people of poor quality on your forums, let me ask you to do the same. Personally, I'm glad for the Jedi. Honestly, the shadows thing was annoying, but it won't change Bounty Hunters from being able to track cloaked Jedi-- remember, tracking droids still report your location. Best bet for MBHs is to launch a droid at the start of a fight, in case the Jedi cloaks and runs.

Now I can vouch for some people who made jokes about the Jedi, such as the "how to track a Jedi post...it's about stereotypical jedi (notice the lower-case "j") not the Jedi (upper-case "J") of the game. There are some of each on the Jedi forums, and just like you don't like to be associated with the jedi, I'm not a huge fan of you lumping us all together and telling us "nice going" and talking about our attitudes. I think if Jedi and Rangers were reversed on the "amount of attention recieved" meter, you'd have a lot of Jedi with much worse attitudes talking about "another Ranger fix" (this is of course assuming people stayed in the profession they're in).

In the end, I think you need to realize that the original poster makes a lot of complaints about a great number of varied subjects, and this particular one happened to be about Jedi.

PHE'NIX ANTARUS
BOTHAN ELDER RANGER
BEST LOOKINGSPY EVER--FOUNDER OF SATGWNIWNU
BURNING H*TPANTS SINCE 2003

This is horrible! I return to find my new title on the forum is "Jedi". What's up with that? If they wanted to confer that I'm rare and learned, they'd make my title RANGER. and then make it camo colored.

Calculus_Entropy

Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:21 pm

#23

Phenix1050 wrote:

MsNiL wrote:

So I walk over to the Ranger forum to ask some questions, and the first thing I see is a whinepost about a Jedi bugfix for a bug that been around for 5 months.

Nice going Rangers. Great image you give yourself with that attitude

Just as you ask peoplenot to judge all Jedi by the people of poor quality on your forums, let me ask you to do the same. Personally, I'm glad for the Jedi. Honestly, the shadows thing was annoying, but it won't change Bounty Hunters from being able to track cloaked Jedi-- remember, tracking droids still report your location. Best bet for MBHs is to launch a droid at the start of a fight, in case the Jedi cloaks and runs.

Now I can vouch for some people who made jokes about the Jedi, such as the "how to track a Jedi post...it's about stereotypical jedi (notice the lower-case "j") not the Jedi (upper-case "J") of the game. There are some of each on the Jedi forums, and just like you don't like to be associated with the jedi, I'm not a huge fan of you lumping us all together and telling us "nice going" and talking about our attitudes. I think if Jedi and Rangers were reversed on the "amount of attention recieved" meter, you'd have a lot of Jedi with much worse attitudes talking about "another Ranger fix" (this is of course assuming people stayed in the profession they're in).

In the end, I think you need to realize that the original poster makes a lot of complaints about a great number of varied subjects, and this particular one happened to be about Jedi.

QFE and a chuckle for you!

Calculus Entropy
Ranger Blue Glowie Emeritus
Garindan used /areatrack to find Han.

Sneev

Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:25 pm

#24

I have met an awful lot of Jedi lately - its hard not to when every third or fourth person standing in the MO on Dantooine is a Jedi - and I would say that from hearing them speaking in broad, or talking to them when grouped up, that only about 5% are people I would normally want to associate with. Most are loud, crude, and offensively boorish. Many like to complain about how hard they have it etc. A *lot* of whining goes on. Their net effect has been to utterly convince me that I never want to be a Jedi and share their profession - because I don't want anyone to ever think I am one of them. I am grinding for the alt and no more, and I may give that up as a waste of effort too.

Now there are many Jedi who are complete exceptions, play nicely and politely with others, etc. These exceptions are wonderful, and I usually add them to my friends list, and I enjoy grouping with them. Unfortunately for them, they get tarred with the brush created by their boorish offensive brethren, and lots of players have stopped making the distinction.

Since almost every positive change made in the game in the last 3 or more patches has directly or indirectly affected the gameplay of Jedi primarily or exclusively - usuallly to make it easier to play or achieve - its only natural that the non-Jedi players would begin to build up a bit of resentment towards SOE's "fairhaired child" that can do no wrong.

When you come to a forum belonging to some of SOE's "forgotten and b@st@rd-born redhaired step-children", it shouldn't come as a suprise to see some complaints - and to realize that to those here that humour isn't whining, its rather justified complaints. There are things about the Ranger profession that were broken before the first person ever attained Jedi in game, and they are still broken and will apparently remain broken until the servers shut down. I think you should feel glad that Jedi are receiving so much attention - and now even their own entire expansion - and simply put up with all the insults and names that are lobbed at Jedi because, frankly, you have it pretty easy. Yes, yes, the experience as a Jedi sucks and dying to a BH costs experience, but at least most of your class works. Most of Ranger doesn't.

Now, I am not a Ranger at the moment but I have played one before, and I am leaning towards playing one again. So far I have found the folks who post here to be extremely helpful and informative, so please don't judge the profession by one thread that in all fairness has more business being posted here than in all but maybe 4 other professional forums. Jedi have it all, and they have it easy, get used to resentment

Jhonto - Elder: Architect, Artisan, Chef, Droid Engineer, Merchant, Tailor, Entertainer, Image Designer, Politician, Bounty Hunter, Marksman, TKM, Creature Handler, Ranger, Scout, Doctor, Dancer and Musician
High Plains, Tatooine (3356, 7212), Tarquinas

Jindi Jaw'aqti - Half Bothan/Half Jawa Spy. Regimental Sargeant Major, 15th Stormtrooper Regiment, Ft Palpatine, Lok.

Calculus_Entropy

Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:40 pm

#25

Ok guys...she gets it. We are going to lose ground in the claim that we are the most mature, respectable board if y'all continue to read MsNil the riot act.

EDIT: This is in no way a slight to anyone that has posted here. It is a preemptive strike for future posters

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Message Edited by Calculus_Entropy on 08-31-2005 04:42 PM

Calculus Entropy
Ranger Blue Glowie Emeritus
Garindan used /areatrack to find Han.

Rancorrider4

Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:50 pm

#26

Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Ok guys...she gets it. We are going to lose ground in the claim that we are the most mature, respectable board if y'all continue to read MsNil the riot act.

EDIT: This is in no way a slight to anyone that has posted here. It is a preemptive strike for future posters .

Message Edited by Calculus_Entropy on 08-31-2005 04:42 PM

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