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Thread: Anyone seen the CU combat profession schematic yet!
, this example is a non-issue too.Message Edited by darmokVtS on 03-30-2005 03:33 PM
Badgewick wrote:
Think about it, every Master Dr who is buffing people in the game now has to go PAY someone else for the buffs and stims. That means a) the price of buffs will go up, and b) since the amount of BE's are low (at least on sunrunner they are) it means they will also be rare.
Doc's are getting the shaft all-round anyways. 10%buffs? HA
and now that they can't craft anything..........well, i'll probably never ever use a doc. i'll use my crappy stims, and if i have a wound, i'll pop a HTFB
darmokVtS wrote:
In a balanced game you are supposed to lose when outnumbered unless the 2 are quite clueless and/or you very good
Message Edited by darmokVtS on 03-30-2005 03:33 PM
Is it?
Consider oppposite view... 1 TKM and 2 rifleman... picture it? Now think hard...
OW and also... is the term considering DB only used in PvP ??? Or also PvE? In latter form, the rifleman will have a huge problem going up against NPC mobs
Message Edited by Dariane_Kamutsovy on 03-30-2005 03:43 PM
Dariane_Kamutsovy wrote:
OW and also... is the term considering DB only used in PvP ??? Or also PvE? In latter form, the rifleman will have a huge problem going up against NPC mobs
hehe you've never PvPed have you? This won't change PvE one bit.
DB is the same as when a NPC walks up to you and sends you the the cloner, "You have been slain by..."
agent156 wrote:
Dariane_Kamutsovy wrote:
OW and also... is the term considering DB only used in PvP ??? Or also PvE? In latter form, the rifleman will have a huge problem going up against NPC mobs
hehe you've never PvPed have you? This won't change PvE one bit.
DB is the same as when a NPC walks up to you and sends you the the cloner, "You have been slain by..."
Indeed, proud of it too, I never been in PvP 
That latter part I understand. It's the other part that worries me: can a rifleman shoot/kill a NPC at range or is that considered DB (with the NEW system). I know how the old one works, but regarding the CU document, NPC AI and things will be based on the same restrictions as players.
As far as I can recall, I've never been DB'ed (as such) by a RANGED NPC fighter. They always walk up to do the DB...
If that is now also becoming the case for PvE... then a rifleman will get a hard time.
I've never had a ranged NPC DB me from a distance either.
agent156 wrote:
Eh I very much doubt they will implement DB for PvE.
I've never had a ranged NPC DB me from a distance either.
Don't be so sure... From a programmers point of view, the reuse of code and also not needing to check wether PvP/PvE is quite tempting... Reuse is ok, but to handle Rifleplayer vs NPC different from Rifleplayer vs Player might be more work then they want to do.
If the new combat engine is "universal" (for all situations, PvP/PvE/EvE) then this check will not be made!
Dariane_Kamutsovy wrote:
darmokVtS wrote:
In a balanced game you are supposed to lose when outnumbered unless the 2 are quite clueless and/or you very good
Message Edited by darmokVtS on 03-30-2005 03:33 PM
Is it?
Consider oppposite view... 1 TKM and 2 rifleman... picture it? Now think hard...
OW and also... is the term considering DB only used in PvP ??? Or also PvE? In latter form, the rifleman will have a huge problem going up against NPC mobs
Message Edited by Dariane_Kamutsovy on 03-30-2005 03:43 PM
2 riflemen wouldmow down a TKM. Once the TKM is incapped (remember that there will still be incapacitation), the rifleman can run up and get the DB. No, this doesn't necesarily work in a big fight, but in a 2 on 1 situation, the TKM is hosed.
Now, seeing what I have seen of the CU documents, do I want to be a Master Rifleman and only travel with another Master Rifleman? No way. You would certainly want a crowd control or mezzer partner.
Message Edited by Dariane_Kamutsovy on 03-30-2005 04:30 PM
PLEASE IGNORE PREVIOUS POST... SOME SENTENCE WENT WRONG AND I CANNOT EDIT 
Dariane_Kamutsovy wrote:
Calculus_Entropy wrote:
Dariane_Kamutsovy wrote:
darmokVtS wrote:
In a balanced game you are supposed to lose when outnumbered unless the 2 are quite clueless and/or you very good
Message Edited by darmokVtS on 03-30-2005 03:33 PM
Is it?
Consider oppposite view... 1 TKM and 2 rifleman... picture it? Now think hard...
OW and also... is the term considering DB only used in PvP ??? Or also PvE? In latter form, the rifleman will have a huge problem going up against NPC mobs
Message Edited by Dariane_Kamutsovy on 03-30-2005 03:43 PM
2 riflemen wouldmow down a TKM. Once the TKM is incapped (remember that there will still be incapacitation), the rifleman can run up and get the DB. No, this doesn't necesarily work in a big fight, but in a 2 on 1 situation, the TKM is hosed.
Now, seeing what I have seen of the CU documents, do I want to be a Master Rifleman and only travel with another Master Rifleman? No way. You would certainly want a crowd control or mezzer partner.
Wrong... Guess you never been a TKM...?
According to the CU they have high def and high off, which makes them formidable against rifleman who don't have def at all.
Second, unless that skill is taken away, the TKM has PowerOfWill... Even if incapped he can regain conciousness almost instantly and have a bit more health, combine with a shot of the healing and unless the riflemen are prepared, they find themselves in melee range with a TKM...
Ow and WHY would I now want to party with another rifleman? Why would I not want to party with another rifleman? In fact DaveG (MR/MRifleman) and we did this quite often. So if/whenever we go PvP we have a disadvantage... More reason for me to stay out of PvP. In PvE we kind of rule the creatures.
Just my .2c