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Thread: someone please help me with ranger/rifles because it sucks.

staticrevan
Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:15 pm
#1

someone show me / tell me what to do. I am master ranger / master rifles, and I absolutely suck at any type of combat. I get incapped by everything and anything. I use camo kits, conceal shot, and I am using a 3 mil cred rifle, and I am getting killed by banthas. What am I doing wrong? If I am lucky, I get 2 shots off. Most of the time I get one shot off, before the creature discovers and kills me.


I like ranger, but so far ranger/rifles has been the worst prof combo I have ever done, yet everyone says it's so great. It's not. It sucks.



What other combat profs would go with ranger. Is anyone out there ranger / melee?



take care friends
lots of good times
cya

Ronaj
Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:20 pm
#2


No offense but it's not that the combination sucks, it's either that you're just not doing it right or that it's just not you and therefore harder to get the hang/feel of.


As far as advice goesfirst I'd have to say try using other shots besides just conceal shot, trying to use that as your only shot post CU just doesn't work anymore. Personally I'd say conceal shot, sniper shot, snare shot, sniper shot, head shot might be a good combo. Of course that would most likely be best against single enemies as there is probably a bit of action drain with that depending on the SAC of your rifle.

Message Edited by Ronaj on 07-24-2005 06:21 PM



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JBMat
Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:24 pm
#3

I seem Image Designer in your future unless you learn how to fight.


Now, ever consider using conceal shot? P darts? Or do you just stand there and expect stuff to die in two shots? Standing there will get you killed very quickly. Use some brain cells and move your feet. We do have some decent TN yanno. Try using a droid to help, like a pro bot fighter.


Or you can play "Duke Nukem", stand in one spot and die a lot. Your choice.


Do a search on how to fight, there are only like 20 posts on it, for pre and post CU.


JB


Ronaj
Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:26 pm
#4






JBMat wrote:

I seem Image Designer in your future unless you learn how to fight.


Now, ever consider using conceal shot? P darts? Or do you just stand there and expect stuff to die in two shots? Standing there will get you killed very quickly. Use some brain cells and move your feet. We do have some decent TN yanno. Try using a droid to help, like a pro bot fighter.


Or you can play "Duke Nukem", stand in one spot and die a lot. Your choice.


Do a search on how to fight, there are only like 20 posts on it, for pre and post CU.


JB






Actually as he himself stated, he does use Conceal shot.




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Creaturetaimer
Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:45 pm
#5

What exactly are you hunting?


Level?, species?, Missions or not?





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staticrevan
Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:52 pm
#6

trying to hunt krayts. everyone tells me that ranger/rifles can solo krayts




take care friends
lots of good times
cya

Nemo0
Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:59 pm
#7



staticrevan wrote:
trying to hunt krayts. everyone tells me that ranger/rifles can solo krayts




While you CAN solo krayts, if you are asking how to do it you probably want to get some practice on easier mobs. Soloing krayts is not something you just decide to do one evening and expect to win. And you will definitely not want to lie prone and wait for him to chow down on you--use your snares and keep on the move. If you end up standing still for too long, you will end up as krayt food.



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YT-2000
Sun Jul 24, 2005 5:00 pm
#8

I've always been a Ranger/Rifleman with my main character. At the moment I don't tend to bother using maskscent/camo since in its current state it is more of a disadvantage to have (causes instant aggro which might be the problem you are having). I tend to use 3 techniques when hunting solo (which I do most of the time), each applying to a different situation.

I use the first one in most combat situations but it's especially useful when the critters have ranged attacks. I find a nice sniping spot which is 65m from the creature. This takes up most of my time because you've got to make sure there are no dips in the ground between you and the creature, otherwise it will almost always go out of sight during your first few hits (of course it gets even more frustrating when the creature moves ). Once in position go prone, take cover and fire 2-3 conceal shots (depends on the speed of the creature - practice first and make sure the creature is over 20m away when the last conceal shot hits). Then fire a sniper shot and then use headshot and rangedshot repeatedly till the creature is dead.

The second tactic is useful when the creature has a lot of health. Again, start at 65m, go prone and /aim. Use sniper shot, stand up and when the creature is around 48m throw a pdart. Immediately start to run backwards and use headshot and rangedshot repeatedly as before. Make sure you stay 60-65m from the creature. When the snare wears off throw another pdart when it gets within 48m again. The only thing you have to worry about is when the traps don't stick. However, you're only in trouble if it happens succesively and even then you'll only take a few hits until the next on sticks (unless you're really unlucky ).

I use the other tactic when I'm doing speed-hunting and have plenty of stims, or even better a healer. Simply go prone 65m away from the creature (doesn't really matter about the terrain), /aim and sniper shot. Stand up and start using the headshot/rangedshot attacks again while taking the damage. Quickly heal up again and move onto the next creature. One thing to note though is that this tactic doesn't work very well when the creatures have ranged attacks. In those cases almost always stick to the first tactic.

I hope that helps. Recently I've been tempted by going Ranger/CH but every time I think about it I realise how much I'd miss being a Master Rifleman. IMO, they got the best deal from the CU out of all the combat professions and it still fits well with my fighting style.

Good hunting!

Message Edited by YT-2000 on 07-25-2005 01:00 AM



Hebi Aepam
Retired Hunter - Creature Expert
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Aenedor
Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:39 am
#9

If you don't use them already I would highly recomend you purchase a crate of instant stim d's, that heal at least 1k health. I am using some 1150 ones. You can use one once a minute. I can solo missions up to 82 because I use stim d's. Health regen food also helps to reduce downtime between fights, just remember to sit down to heal.



Aenedor Tru'shot
Elder Ranger
Imperial Medic - Bringing Healing and Order to the Galaxy.
Bassnet13
Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:18 am
#10

Two words that you need to live by as a big-game hunting MR/MRM.

'Snare' This comes in two forms for you-Phecnacine Dart and Kneecap Shot. Use both, and re-apply them when they drop.

'Kite' Never, ever, ever stand still. Run, uphill when possible... most baddies don't have your +100 Terrain negotiation. Use that to your advantage.

And as a final note - don't let JB get to you. Most of the words that best describe him around here aren't suitable for polite company, but he is a damn good ranger, and usually knows what he is talking about.



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Cryos_Merovingian
Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:34 am
#11

I tried out rifles during the respec period but it was lacking in specials IMO and our traps just weren't quite up to part for the task. This could be part of what's giving you problems. However, phecnacine darts are a good trap and give you a good snare, so I highly recommend you use that. Other then that though, I'm not a rifleman, so I can't tell you how to play it. If you're really having trouble, try a difference prof - carbines and pistols both have great specials and good damage. If you're not happy with rifles, don't use rifles.



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RenshaGrangle
Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:51 am
#12


Aenedor wrote:
If you don't use them already I would highly recomend you purchase a crate of instant stim d's, that heal at least 1k health. I am using some 1150 ones. You can use one once a minute. I can solo missions up to 82 because I use stim d's. Health regen food also helps to reduce downtime between fights, just remember to sit down to heal.




Pick up some Ruby Bile. It lets you use Stims immediately.



Kailec Avoda
C'thor
Master Ranger
Master Rifleman
thpokc
Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:07 am
#13

YT-2000 comments and techniques are spot on. Combat post CU is all about tactics and using your wits. Every combat combination can suck if you don't know how to use them. You should experiment/learn while moving up your skill levels instead of grinding boxes.



Cebri Flyingwaver - Master Ranger/Master Rifleman
Once a Ranger, always a Ranger... the spirit will live on
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