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Thread: Renaming the Ranger to...?
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BadMisterFrosty
Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:07 pm
#1
As a preface, congratulation to the »enhancment«. Its was sorely needed. 
Unfortunately, the original design of professions placed them very close together so the main job of the developers probably was to divide the professions in order to make them unqiue (which is great). But with the relocation of Ranger skills to the Scout tree, the name »Ranger« is no longer adequate and confusing, especially to new players.
I am aware that a name people have sticked to for a long time is important as an absolute term which also probably donated a good deal of identification. However, do you think it would be better to rename Ranger to something that does not lead new players astray, maybe sound even better and avoid that the now empty word Ranger is filled with the (in my opinion) wrongconnotation of thiefs and rouges?
I would suggest Infiltrator, Spec-Ops or Spy. What do you think?
(please do not flame, I know that might be a sensitive area, its just a discussion and even though I am in lightblue, I am speaking as a player)
Phenix1050
Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:16 pm
#2
Every instance of Ranger in the Star Wars universe is built around paramilitary skills exactly as the new Ranger is laid out. A few examples:
Antarian Rangers
Imperial Sector Rangers.
Both were para-military organizations who specialized in stealth, infiltration and "dirty work". Seems very appropriate, no? The only people this would be confusing to are those who come in with images of fantasy-based Rangers. Anybody who understands that this is not a fantasy game will realize that Ranger has military connotations in real life, as well as in the unverse in which we are participating. I say the title fits perfectly.
MonKaiku
Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:17 pm
#3
Ranger is still appropriate I think, but can get new names for each of the trees (titles you can have)
CuchulainnDarklight
Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:23 pm
#4
Phenix1050 wrote:
Every instance of Ranger in the Star Wars universe is built around paramilitary skills exactly as the new Ranger is laid out. A few examples:
Antarian Rangers
Imperial Sector Rangers.
Both were para-military organizations who specialized in stealth, infiltration and "dirty work". Seems very appropriate, no? The only people this would be confusing to are those who come in with images of fantasy-based Rangers. Anybody who understands that this is not a fantasy game will realize that Ranger has military connotations in real life, as well as in the unverse in which we are participating. I say the title fits perfectly.
How about little faction specific quests that allow you to become one of the SWG Ranger groups? That would be good.
RosaShyanne
Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:30 pm
#6
Keep it Ranger. The Dev's can't help the fact that AD&D made Ranger a kick butt combat class which every fantasy-based MMORPG translated into a DPS machine.
Seriously though, the confusion is due to an overwhelming number of people that don't read at all, just assume they know what each game has to offer.
CorethLandwalker
Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:46 pm
#7
No need to rename the profession; we're just looking at it from a different point of view now....
That said: your suggestions would be interesting titles for new branches of the skill tree....
That said: your suggestions would be interesting titles for new branches of the skill tree....
Serraphin
Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:10 pm
#8
If this were DnD or some other fantasy MMORPG then sure the name should change. This is SWG however and the new Ranger is far more in line with what a Modern Ranger should be.
BadMisterFrosty wrote:
As a preface, congratulation to the »enhancment«. Its was sorely needed.
Unfortunately, the original design of professions placed them very close together so the main job of the developers probably was to divide the professions in order to make them unqiue (which is great). But with the relocation of Ranger skills to the Scout tree, the name »Ranger« is no longer adequate and confusing, especially to new players.
I am aware that a name people have sticked to for a long time is important as an absolute term which also probably donated a good deal of identification. However, do you think it would be better to rename Ranger to something that does not lead new players astray, maybe sound even better and avoid that the now empty word Ranger is filled with the (in my opinion) wrongconnotation of thiefs and rouges?
I would suggest Infiltrator, Spec-Ops or Spy. What do you think?
(please do not flame, I know that might be a sensitive area, its just a discussion and even though I am in lightblue, I am speaking as a player)
Rancorrider4
Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:33 pm
#9
Agree!!
Phenix1050 wrote:
Every instance of Ranger in the Star Wars universe is built around paramilitary skills exactly as the new Ranger is laid out. A few examples:
Antarian Rangers
Imperial Sector Rangers.
Both were para-military organizations who specialized in stealth, infiltration and "dirty work". Seems very appropriate, no? The only people this would be confusing to are those who come in with images of fantasy-based Rangers. Anybody who understands that this is not a fantasy game will realize that Ranger has military connotations in real life, as well as in the unverse in which we are participating. I say the title fits perfectly.
WeiQuin
Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:04 pm
#10
I don't know, I like the name Infiltrator.
In the pen and paper SW RPG Scout was one of the starting professions, but was geared more towards blazing a trail though space/new planets, not uber Hunter.
Plus, one of the elite classes was call Infiltrator, which specialised in getting into and out of secure facilities. They were also able to handle themselves well if discovered and had to fight their way out.
As I see it, reamining a Master Ranger-Master Rifleman makes me more like a Marine Scout-Recon/Sniper
Cpl_Fisher
Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:41 pm
#11
WeiQuin wrote:
I don't know, I like the name Infiltrator.
In the pen and paper SW RPG Scout was one of the starting professions, but was geared more towards blazing a trail though space/new planets, not uber Hunter.
Plus, one of the elite classes was call Infiltrator, which specialised in getting into and out of secure facilities. They were also able to handle themselves well if discovered and had to fight their way out.
As I see it, reamining a Master Ranger-Master Rifleman makes me more like a Marine Scout-Recon/Sniper
Make it one of the titles you can wear.
/hi5 rangers!
No, does this mean that commando's can get the "Big Boy Toys" now?
jmonty
Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:36 am
#12
Assassin?
Thief?
Rogue?
Insurgent?
Combat Engineer?
Ninja?
Message Edited by jmonty on 09-18-2005 01:37 PM
-JungleKing-
Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:01 am
#13
It shoould be let you be just Ranger (neither maser or novice) with BIGS words.
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