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Thread: Two types of avian from the same planet?

novamarine
Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:06 am
#1

Something wierd has happened on wanderhome on corellia.


The avian meat is doubled. When you harvest, you get 1 of 2 kinds. Literally, there are 2 kinds of avian meat spawning at the exact same time. I am unaware that this could happen as it seems to go against the way resources in this game work. It is especially frustrating since one of the 2 types is really awesome and the other is average.


Any comments on this?

Archaic519
Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:22 am
#2

That went in on the last patch. No longer will therebe a uniform "type" of materials (bone, hide, meat) on a planet. Now each species has it's own type.



Apparently, the SWG database wasn't bloated or slow enough.




I am still waiting for the Scythe, Can you please release it/tell us where to find it?
Archaic519
Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:29 am
#3

In case that last answer was unclear, it means that if you kill Lantern birds on Endor and get Avian meat from them, it will be different from the avian meat that you get off of any other bird type on Endor. (Including those nasty birds who I killed last night, but will never kill again. They have heavy armour, and their disease took my mind to 1. Destroyed my pet also, he was so diseased I had to get rid of him. )


It's good if the meat/bone/hide you get off something sucks cause youhave a chance to get better off something else. But it is annoying having to sample 8 different things to find out which is the best.




I am still waiting for the Scythe, Can you please release it/tell us where to find it?
shotoyan
Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:40 am
#4

With this new system do we still have resource shifts?




Thanks,
Lo'ric
VolstedGridban
Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:53 am
#5



Archaic519 wrote:
In case that last answer was unclear, it means that if you kill Lantern birds on Endor and get Avian meat from them, it will be different from the avian meat that you get off of any other bird type on Endor.




Negative.

I have spent most of my time since the patch on Endor, specifically to farm Carnivore Meat (which is of particularly high quality right now on Tempest). I have killed borgles, mantigrues, blurrgs, robas, hanadaks, and pretty much anything I can find that drops a decent amount of Carnivore Meat.

And I have NOT gotten Type A Carnivore Meat from Blurrgs and Type B Carnivore Meat from Robas and Type C Carnivore Meat from Borgles, etc. All of the 25k Carnivore Meat I've been getting on Endor since the patch has been of the same type, regardless of Critter.



Volsted Gridban
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Author of Volsted's Weapon Analysis Guide, Volsted's Power Fishing Guide,
and Volsted's Animal Resource Guide

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VolstedGridban
Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:01 am
#6



novamarine wrote:
Something wierd has happened on wanderhome on corellia.

The avian meat is doubled. When you harvest, you get 1 of 2 kinds. Literally, there are 2 kinds of avian meat spawning at the exact same time. I am unaware that this could happen as it seems to go against the way resources in this game work. It is especially frustrating since one of the 2 types is really awesome and the other is average.

Any comments on this?




If you survey resources with any regularity, you will find that Resources occasionally "double up." It's particularly common with Mineral resources, since there are so many. It is not uncommon to see two different types of Desh Copper or Dolovite Iron or something on the same planet at the same time.

Other resources have this happen less frequently. Some have it happen hardly at all. Most of the time, there will only be one type of Water Vapor and one type of Solar Energy and one type of Wind Energy, etc, on a given planet. The new one won't show up until the old one disappears.

However, on rare occasions, you can see even these types of resources "double up." A week ago, there were two types of Water on Corellia on Tempest, and they were both around for about a week. So it can happen with these resources too.

I have often wondered if animal resources worked the same way. I've been tracking animal resources on Corellia on Tempest on a daily basis since 9/22, to get an idea of how often they shifted, and to see if the possibility existed for more than one type of resource at a time.

What you're describing sounds as though you can have more than one type of a specific animal resource (say, Avian Meat) spawning on the same planet at the same time.

I don't know for an incontrovertible fact that this is what you're seeing, but it would certainly be my first guess based on all of the tracking I've done so far.



Volsted Gridban
4/4/4/0 Ranger, Master Rifleman,
Surveyor of planetary resources. Purveyor of animal resources.
Author of Volsted's Weapon Analysis Guide, Volsted's Power Fishing Guide,
and Volsted's Animal Resource Guide

Draining MMORPG combat mechanics through the Mighty Sieve of Mathematics since 1999
NRaas
Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:17 am
#7

"That went in on the last patch. No longer will therebe a uniform "type" of materials (bone, hide, meat) on a planet. Now each species has it's own type."


Hmmm... I don't recall hearing anything about such a system.


Anyways, the possibility to get two or more types of the same resource off the same planet has been around since the inception of the game.



  • However, the "feature" simply does not occur that often.

I standwith VolstedGridban and have made similiar remarks in past threads.





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novamarine
Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:26 am
#8

What doesn't make sense is that in killing a lair of (i forgot exactly what), I got 2 piles of avian meat. They were all exactly the same species. So the same species is giving 2 types of meat?


I have to look into this more. For sure, I didn't notice it until later on (I only killed them because they were right outside my doorstep and I only noticedwhen I openned my inventory to give the meat to a passing doctor). This is really odd. I wasn't getting double meat quantity. This means I was either getting a combo of both off each creature OR each creature was giving me 1 type.

JBMat
Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:27 am
#9

I go with Nrass and Volstead -


While rare, I have seen two differing types of meats on one planet, but the situation does not last all that long. Seems to happen during a resource shift and once the "old" animals are killed off, either by harvesting or by despawning, only the new meat is left.


Be willing to bet if you go and harvest now, all avians will all be dropping the same meat.


JB


On Corellia on Scyalla server

Cwth
Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:17 am
#10

I've noticed that this seems to happen in clusters. So for example, one day you'll notice new types have shifted in on a particular planet for solar energy, domesticated wheat, avian bone and leathery hide. The next day that planet has two types of solar energy, two types of domesticated wheat, two types of avian bone and two types of leathery hide.


I've been trying to keep daily track of all resources available on one planet for the past couple of months and I've seen this doubling up happen twice. Both times it's happened for all planet-specific resources that had shifted on the previous day. I can't say though whether it happens server-wide at the same time, or on a planet by planet basis. I may try to check on that next time I see it.

AmAvocet
Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:49 pm
#11

I keep a database of current resources. As of yesterday, baz nitch, bolma, brackaset, kamurith, kwi, malkloc, rancor, reptilian flyer, verne were all giving the same type of hide and bone.


I have yet to see more than one type of a given resource at a time.




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Culdor
Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:51 pm
#12

This used to happen more frequently in beta, and from my experience at the time any species capable of providing the resource type could provide either. So if there was two types of carnivore meat, which was the case I played with near the end of beta, any creature that provided carnivore meat had a chance of giving you one or the other per harvest.


I have no idea if this is true or just how itfelt at the time as I didnt get a chance to play with it long enough. However in the case of the meat one was awesome stat wise, the other not so. It seemed that the tougher creatures of the lair were more likely to drop the good meat vs the smaller guys. It wasnt exclusive to one or the other, just seemed more common with the bigger guys. Take that with a huge grain of salt though.


At any rate I personally havent experienced this since beta and thought it had been removed.


Cul



LordBlothgar
Wed Nov 19, 2003 12:05 am
#13

I have happened upon this one time on Rori, where the carnivore meat came in two versions. Tattered tortons dropped on kind and the other tortons dropped another kind. (Eclipse server) I have several friends that were hunting with me at the time that can verify this.


I don't think it is intentional, but probably a bug in some database for some of the creatures. Anyhow, it happens so seldom that it isn't a problem, though a list of which creatures on what planets are affected by this bug would be helpful.



This was about one and a half month ago, just before that awesome Oboi avian meat started dropping on Yavin.(Eclipse server)




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