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Thread: Rangers and harvesting droids?

Drfoucault
Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:46 am
#1

Is it possible to improve my harvesting skill with a harvester droid and vegash ...or is it a waste of time and money to use on as ranger???


regards (couldnt find faq about it sorry)



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agent156
Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:07 am
#2

Veghash can eat up your cash quick. Really the thing your hunting needs to be top dollar for the small bonus to be worth it. I think the best I've had at like +34 came out to like a 6% bonus. A good droid will give you about 5% as a Master Ranger. The droid you pay for once though

I shopped around and got my HB 111 droid for less than the cheapest case of veghash I've ever seen. Not much less but at bit. The Highest price I saw similar droids for was still lower that most of the Veghash on my server, lol.

Between the two I get about 9 -10% more, some where in there. And as a Rifleman the droid saves me a lot of footwork and lets me move on the the next target while he runs off to harvest.

Message Edited by agent156 on 02-19-2005 06:08 AM

icarus-uk
Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:20 am
#3

The thing that most people Ive noticed seem to have trouble with Veghash, is that a Master Rangers skill is already near the 120 point cap on creature harvesting. As for most "commercial" hash solutions, chefs pump as much as they can in to the modifier (get a 30%-35%), which is overkill to a Master Ranger (who has 100 creature harvesting already). Find a chef to make you 20% hash, that lasts as long as possible, it will last you longer (so you dont have to buy it as often) and you wont be buying extra power modifiers that you cant use.

As for harvesting droids, I use one when Im hunting professionally, as those extra few percent in resources can really add up over time. And as said before, you only buy a droid once. But remember you need to buy batteries constantly.

Message Edited by icarus-uk on 02-19-2005 02:22 PM

Drfoucault
Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:23 am
#4

Ty for replies.....do you use your droid to harvest ...or can the module add to your ranger skill, when you do the harvesting yourself?


regards



Mekhet Foucault Former Bioengineer ----------acc. cancelled.
Abulafia Foucault (Jedi) / Sator Foucault (ranger) ----- acc cancelled
Amokk Foucault BH ------------ acc cancelled
JBMat
Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:13 am
#5

The droid has to do the harvesting. And the results are not all that great, unless you are beating on really big game.


Get a fighter, take down the big stuff faster, use veghash.


JB
agent156
Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:24 am
#6

The droid runs up and does it, you have to "program" the keyword that makes the droid run up and harvest the corpse you have targeted. If you put /tellpet harvest_keyword in to a macro and use that from a hot key you'll have less problems. Saying it in spacial causes all kinds of wierd lag and makes it easier to confuse your droid by targeting something else to soon.

What is you source of info about the capping thing? Cause if there is supposed to be one I have a bug report or two to fill out.

When I was trying to figure out if the +34 veghash I could get was really worth it compared to the +24 veghash I could get I was able to reliable get more but I had to hit animals that had at least 230 units to see it. Or close to that, its been a long time. I've never heard of any food bonus being capped. Or maybe I'm just nuts. Or maybe I had less Creature Harvesting skill then and wasn't capping.... gah. I must know! Twice now people in this forum have said there is no cap. And no one has said other wise.

Message Edited by agent156 on 02-19-2005 07:28 AM

Cango
Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:10 am
#7

I double up on droid and veghash. I have a crate of 25, each one is a 10 minute use, 5 uses. My droid is +115, and I love it, especialyl since im a Rifleman. Take out Malkloc 1, send in the droid to harvest, take out malkloc 2 while the droid harvests.

Its actually quicker for a rifleman, gives more resources, and I dont have to worry about a nightsister aggroing me when I go to harvest that plainswalker corpse thats 2 feet from it.



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LastEE
Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:46 am
#8

When harvesting from critters that are likely to keep the whole group engaged in combat like anglers on yavin, the droid is able to keep harvesting while we're enganged, that made a huge difference today, more than the quantity of the bonus, just the fact that it COULD harvest while I cerntainly could not since they love to BAF and attack any group members



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JascoSmlee
Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:26 am
#9






icarus-uk wrote:
The thing that most people Ive noticed seem to have trouble with Veghash, is that a Master Rangers skill is already near the 120 point cap on creature harvesting. As for most "commercial" hash solutions, chefs pump as much as they can in to the modifier (get a 30%-35%), which is overkill to a Master Ranger (who has 100 creature harvesting already). Find a chef to make you 20% hash, that lasts as long as possible, it will last you longer (so you dont have to buy it as often) and you wont be buying extra power modifiers that you cant use.

As for harvesting droids, I use one when Im hunting professionally, as those extra few percent in resources can really add up over time. And as said before, you only buy a droid once. But remember you need to buy batteries constantly.

Message Edited by icarus-uk on 02-19-2005 02:22 PM



Apologies if I am wrong, but I thought I once read somewhere that all Chef food bonuses are supposed to stack on top of any natural skill bonuses? I which case even a Master Trando Ranger with FS survival (Creature Harvesting 115?) would still benefit from high modifier Veghash?




Jasco Smlee Antarian Ranger
Nosn Nuub +2 Starfighter Engineer
kNuubian Tech : Rori, Rebel Outpost : /way 3732 -6620
Washell
Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:40 am
#10






icarus-uk wrote:
The thing that most people Ive noticed seem to have trouble with Veghash, is that a Master Rangers skill is already near the 120 point cap on creature harvesting. As for most "commercial" hash solutions, chefs pump as much as they can in to the modifier (get a 30%-35%), which is overkill to a Master Ranger (who has 100 creature harvesting already). Find a chef to make you 20% hash, that lasts as long as possible, it will last you longer (so you dont have to buy it as often) and you wont be buying extra power modifiers that you cant use.

As for harvesting droids, I use one when Im hunting professionally, as those extra few percent in resources can really add up over time. And as said before, you only buy a droid once. But remember you need to buy batteries constantly.

Message Edited by icarus-uk on 02-19-2005 02:22 PM






Attachments and tailor crafted bonuses are capped at +25, with the usual skill maxing at 100 the "cap" is 125. Defense bonuses across professions have been hard capped at 125 to get rid of defense stacking, but food still enhances the defense bonuses. With no other profs to stack the harvesting bonus it isn't capped at all. Master Ranger + Trando + FS bonus + 34 veghash will give you a 149 bonus to which a droid will add a little more.


As for your mention of 120, you're probably confused with the crafters experimentation bonus, 10 experimentation points on an item converts to 1 point to use during crafting. Cap is 25, becomes 2.5 points during crafting, rounded down is 2 points so there's no need to invest in the last 5 points.


Railean
Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:28 am
#11

What is Trando? Do you mean the character race? Thanks
JascoSmlee
Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:22 pm
#12






Railean wrote:
What is Trando? Do you mean the character race? Thanks





Yes, Trandoshan.



Jasco Smlee Antarian Ranger
Nosn Nuub +2 Starfighter Engineer
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Railean
Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:44 pm
#13

Ok thanks, I thought it might be some spice I did not hear about. That is what happens when you do not keep up with the drugs in the game.
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