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Message Edited by BioEngine on 08-19-2005 08:54 PM

You're a pessimist!

(Sorry, I couldn't resist. )

damn your glass is half empty. now granted mines not half full. I'd say mines just half...

Yup Ranger continues to spiral towards deletion and I will bring back my all time famous request that no one will listen primarily out out of ego or bravado. No one should replace Owen as core. Ranger should simply not have one because as stated many times in the past the POSITION of correspondent for this profession has no effect and can accomplish nothig for this community as designed. No matter how great the person filling the shoes. What is wrong with having no Corr until the profession gets some attention. For those that say there busy, or right after this or that Ranger will get something...bah... lets get real. They are adding another high end content planet thats uber loot is another Jedi crystal. This expansion is geared towards Jedi and it WILL be released on time and get ALL the dev attention because Lucas Arts has set the deadline to correspond with the release of Episode III on DVD. With that pressure does anyone think much of anything will get attention that is not part of the new expansion. I hate to say it but I used my token respec to get out of Ranger. I am done with it.

You know, I removed this from the other thread, but you force to bring it out:

Not as much as you have said look at the bright side or all will be well. The problem is SWG is mostly fine and most people are happy with the game and more people want Jedi than not. So that being the case it is just a matter of time till SOE comes to the realization that they could delete Ranger and so few people would complain that they would not even notice. The in game economy would not even suffer a speed bump without Ranger

Yup you're a pessimist! I read alot of the forums and my sense is the developers have some set of timelines and agendas dictated to them from above and they are balancing fixing the game they created and love (yes they do, it shows in every pixel no matter what you think) with meeting dictated timelines, directives, etc etc. Rangers as well as other "neglected" professions will get their turn at the plate, and you may or may not be happy with the results. Play the characters and roles you enjoy most. If the game makes you buggy play something else. I'm a master ranger on Bria and am working on another on Naritus (where the *REAL* rangers are /snog Naritus ranger community) and I have two "sleeper" rangers in galaxies far far away. Ranger is such a great explorer profession. At Master you can travel on foot across most planets unharmed. You can provide useful resources to crafter characters, and did I mention you can just walk the face of a strange and dangerous planet and forget all about the trials of real life. I /bow to all the rangers out there who keep the profession, /wave to all those who slink off to become something else more "uber".

Athela/Master Doctor Kettemoor

Atheren/Master Ranger Bria

AmeliaRose/Ranger wannabe Naritus

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Kinshi wrote:

I am beyond negativity towards this game..I am squarely in the midst of apathy now. I dont really give a damn anymore what SOE does

SOE will do what SOE wants, and no amout of reasoning will change that and the effort required to browbeat them into changing course is no longer worth the energy.

Ultimately I see my money being better spent with a different gaming company.

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Dagnabit... he's going to make me agree with him.

Sort of

YAY!! Apathy! That is exactly where we ought to be re the game.

Why? Well, look at it this way, if you are either ecstatically excited over each and every whoop-de-do 'feature' that's introduced OR you're crying, metaphorically I hope, into your pillow that x profession gets more love or y profession is so broke it hurts, then really, and I DO mean this with a kind heart and all that, but you're putting FAR too much emotional 'stuff' into the game.

"Play the game that's in front of you" has been the approach I've tried to take for a while now. Sure, I'd like to see some stuff fixed or changed or just plain sandpapered down to the ground and forgotten about entirely. But if it doesn't happen I'm not going to start hating the devs or dreaming up conspiracy theories about mad-scientist evil genius (hah) types in their underground bunker on top of a mountain in Austin TX who are just out to get ME. Nobody else, just ME and MY profession. Whatever that is this week.

And sure I'll argue as to what I think is a better route to take to get something down or abotu waht it is that we ought to be trying to get down. But I'll also accept that, at a whim, the dev team could redesign any and all aspects of the game to suit whatever goals thay have in mind today. Well, this week. OK OK, I did product development, whatever somebody at a meeting 24 weeks ago thought they heard somebody else say they had in mind then went off, designed a big progress chart and then that chart becomes that dev teams reality for a while.

Until somebody leaves or a new chart arrives.

It just 'is'.

Don't get me wrong. I'm attached to some of my toons (there's at least one I'd rather have as a family member than some of my RL family, but hey, that's my problem and I'll get counselling someday) and I'd be gutted if I logged in this afternoon and found they'd gone. (Well, apart from one. I'm seriously thinking of just leaving it on a macro at the sarlac pit.... keeping it just this side of incapped... damn, but I hate that architect.... )

What was I saying? Oh yeah. I'm past caring what happens now. If something good comes I'll cheer and wave my little flag. If something bad comes I'll go "oh that's just rotten", have a sulk then get back to splattering critters and conducting my one man campaign to nerf all thugs into extinction.

After all, it IS 'just a game'.






And before you all reach for the flame throwers, I'd just like to add...

After all, it IS 'just a game'... and that is what's so dangerous for the game. The immersion has been killed. The customer loyalty has been beaten out of me. The idea of cancelling and just going and plaing something else no longer feel like herecy. One day, some day, somebody will come along with a bigger better franchise and I'll be way easier to tempt over than I would have been even six months ago.

Sad thing is, I'm not alone by any means.




(But I'll have at least one Ranger toon till that happens, lol)

i know I said I was done here...but I'm not. heh.

Listen, I'm not Mr. Golden Happy Sunshine. I myself have reached for the cancelation button several times. I even pushed it once (I re-activated it about 10 minutes later). A lot of the decisions that are made by either SOE or LA have truly disheartened me. I remember telling my friends about how close a Ranger revamp was...back when the DE publish was going in. That's a looong time ago. and since then, I've been let down several times.

During the CURB Alpha, when i first found out about Rangers not getting CL or health and riflemen getting stealth and the group harvesting bonus that made non-Master Rangers harvest more than us when grouped...I was PISSED. Ask anybody who was there. I was irrational, angry, moody, pessimistic and just furious. I must've posted 150 posts in a three or four day span, all of them fueled by this anger. and nothing happened. all that anger did was make me look irrational and make those forums a worse place to be for everyone else. In the end, it took a simple post from Vorpaks, laying out the numbers, to get that to change. All my pessimism did was make me MORE unhappy because I felt inneffective.

Look, I'm no saint. I'm just as prone to anger and negativity as anybody else. and as I've said, I've taken that negativity to the point where I quit the game...for 10 minutes. But I've found the cure, I believe (at least for me). Every time and update note, or a plan of action, or a general game philosophy has hurt me and angered me, every time I've felt ignored-- I play the game. I still have fun. Even if Jedi are getting more attention. Even if we've been ignored for a long time, even if the devs don't care about us...the game is still fun. Sometimes, I get mad in-game about the state of Ranger. What I do then is create a new toon on a different server. Starting the game over again (no money, friends, etc) is really a wake up call sometimes.

and if you're not having fun in the game...walk away. Take a break. Don't quit, like I did, but just step away from the game. Give it time, and see if you enjoy it when you come back. If you don't...then maybe this is no longer the game for you. Believe me, I want as many people to stay as possible. But I also want you to enjoy the game. If you don't though...you shouldn't force yourself to. As Almagill said-- it's just a game, which is both good and bad.

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AgonThalia wrote:

for the record, i have rarely ever disagreed with your points BioEngine, just your tactics.

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exactly.