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hmm well us rangers would like traps to effect npcs but devs dont seem to like that. And i think if they decided to give it to someone it would prolly go to commando.

I can understand your point, but i would rather see rangers traps made better than traps being given to BH. After all we have four boxes in our trapping line but only two bad traps.

I don't think anyone is against having traps work on NPCs. I personally think all traps should work on NPCs (including the scout ones). If I have a dart that makes a rancor sleepy I would expect it to kill a meatlump. But that's logic talking. As for giving BHs traps, my main concern is that you don't have any trapping xp requirement after scout. I am very happy to have BHs use scout traps on NPCs. But I think a BH should go up the trapping line of Ranger if they want more powerful traps. But that would mean letting scouts and rangers use all their traps on NPCs (which seems extremely reasonable to me...). As it is, you have 4 useful skill trees that have very little to do with trapping. The only sensible line to put traps in is investigation. But that is meant for finding targets. Would BHs be happy having the scout traps work on NPCs? Getting new NPC only traps seems a bit silly. The perfect solution (in my mind) is letting all traps work on NPCs (and PCs and pets, really). Then BHs can use their traps on their marks and you might even get some dabblers into our trapping tree (if they ever make it useful...). My main complaint with BH only traps is that it is likely to mean that our traps will never work on NPCs. I've never heard of atranquilizer dartcaring about what it knocks out.

Lythender Nirou
Master Ranger/Master Rifleman
Eclipse Server

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Yeevle wrote:

of course ranger traps need to be better, there is no reason for BH to use them right now though,we seem to be running into a brick wall regarding traps, they are just not worth the effort.

I guess I really shouldn't have asked here hehe, I was just curious.

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No worries. If you argue this point on the BH boards and we push it here and the Scouts push it on their boards, maybe we can convince the Devs. Please don't just let this drop but please don't argue that only BH traps should work on NPCs. If we work together, something good can come out of this.

I am a Ranger. I would like to have more specials than KMart to use on creatures that I kill. I want the ability to have my very own mission terminal that other classes can't use. I want my very own weapons that only I can use. II want my own series of droids that are useless to most others... need I continue?

The mere fact you are forced, yes forced, to master Scouting in no way shape, form or manner entitles you to use creature traps on humanoids. In fact, if I had my way, you would not master Scouting, instead you could master Brawler, which in the grand scheme of things makes more sense. You don't "hunt" anything, instead you are lead to a target by snitches (labeled as early BHs couldn't find them in the freaking cities, and were too freaking stupid to waypoint the few they could find) and droids. Yeah, that red dot on your radar, that's your target..beep freaking beep. As Brawlers you would at least be able to hold your own in a fistfight, something you can't do now, as I see BHs get "pwned" by any TKMs in the area.

No, Rangers and BHs are not linked in the same mindset. You unfortunatly merely share a common link with us, one that is seldom used once you master it. We do have traps to help take down huge game, the same scout traps you can use. And maybe someday we will get our promised traps, which will work on creatures, not NPCS. I will be dancing for joy the day that our traps work on pets.

We resent you getting traps; as your class, woefully overpowered as it is, attempts to steal constantly from other classes. Maybe not you, but 95% of BHs do. You are people hunters, we are game hunters. Almost no common ground... our prey is smarter than yours, and usually harder to kill solo. I will not even mention the fact that BH has a majority population of pimply little wanna-be teen age boys, whose goal in life is to be "uber" and "l33t". As I have been heard to say...riders of the shortbus.

So no, I for one, do not think Bounty Hunters need traps to hunt humans. When an unarmored, unbuffed Ranger can take down a mark, and I have as it aggo'd on me for some unknown reason... well if you guys with your armor, buffs, KMart specials and uber weapons have trouble, give it up and become Image Designers.

just my quarters worth...

JB

and if any Ranger thought I would say different, 25 lashes with a wet durni