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Thread: Healing BF in camps.

Calculus_Entropy
Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:10 pm
#1

It never occurred to me that people wanted camps AUTOHEAL BF! I always assumed that an entertainer type would have to be present to heal the BF. So chime in on which theory you believed in.



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Ackis
Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:12 pm
#2

With the current state of the entertainer professions (ie: all afk, no money to be made, etc.) BF should auto-heal in camps.



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KaiRaene
Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:23 pm
#3


Entertainers can make some money by providing buffs for mind or focus/willpower. Granted they always overcharge but I heavily tip the guy who says, "just tip me what you like. " Entertainers are the only way presently to heal BF and I think it should stay that way.


BF barely affects you til you get past 250 so its not that big a deal. As it is our camps heal everything but BF. That would remove that very tinyperk if you will,the Entertainers have in the first place.


If anything I think fishing should very slowly remove BF. At novice Ent skill perhaps. Not to mention healing BF in a cantina only takes like 5 minutes if you got to a populated area. Everyone is grouped and it just flies off.


To me its a non issue since its barely a hassle to get it healed in the first place.


In the spirit of the Outdoorsman Proposal if the Entertainer Modular setup was enabled then an entertainer could then lower the battlefatigue of players in camp.

Message Edited by KaiRaene on 04-09-2004 08:26 PM



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JediQuic
Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:28 pm
#4

Battle Fatigue Should be ONLY entertainer healable in camps.....To Auto heal would do to the Entertainer class What the /call anywhere change did to our camps. To Alow BF auto healing completly negates the use of entertainers or cantina's. The only level i Would even be remotely happy to see this in the game is at the Master ranger level camp, Preferably a new "Entertaining" camp with perhaps Some kind of Large Bonfire...Low Tech Relaxation....No Silly looking Plasma containers, Crafting stationsor other high tech City crap



However Holo has already stated his opinion on this i thought? Said it would make Cantina's useless or something to that effect. I personaly don't think it would change cantinas much, there would still be people AFK grinding the hell out of them, and there would still be plenty of people who watch them. However it would open up the opportunity to take entertainers out of the cantina some moreto seemore aspects of the game(take a dancer and a Musician out with your hunting group).Also, Not sure if it like this already or not, but I would also like to see Entertainer buffing in camps to.

G0llum
Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:29 pm
#5



I support the idea that requires entertainers to be present to heal BF. Of course I would like to see a few dancers or musicians actually travel, this could give them a reason to actually leave the big cities.


I also liked the post that suggested camps healing BF with the expenditure of resources. Ithink it was in the cooking thread.


G'ollum



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FallingByTheWayside
Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:29 pm
#6

It shouldn't auto-heal, otherwise we Rangers would just be taking the place of entertainers, leaving them nothing but the ability to buff....



I wouldn't be so much against having an entertainerthere in order to heal BF, cantinas always seem like laggy madhouses to me, andwe'd have oneless reason to have to go into a huge city. Maybe the ent could just healBF at a slower rate maybe.....


I certainly don't see how it would break continuity, I'd feel much less fatigued watching a solo dancer as she gracefully casts her silhouette in the firelight of my camp.


Compare that to a room full of crazies with (AFK) over their heads spamming "MAKE SURE TO TIP YOUR ENTERTAINERS!" and churning out /lick emotes to every other guy (ordancer) that /winks at them. /shudder


Tell me which is more relaxing, eh? I'd think of this as more of an enhacement for ents than a nerf, more importantly a boost for immersionand roleplaying. (My character, Nebau, H-A-T-E-S crowded cities)



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Ackis
Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:34 pm
#7

The problem is, what will happen to the entertainer class after the jedi system is changed?



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Utess
Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:34 pm
#8

I was a Ranger once when I played live, and now I just play on Test Center. Speaking as a former ranger and current Master Dancer/Musician, auto-healing bf in camps is a bad, bad idea. I do think that an Entertainer should have something so that if they are in a Ranger camp, they can heal bf, but in no way should a camp auto-heal BF.


The above poster's reply that Entertainer is in sad shape, so we should get an auto-heal, is exactly like the Jedi thread where they said "Well Ranger and Scout are already busted, you might as well let us harvest."


The entertainer professions are exactly like the scouting professions. Both of us have gotten almost nothing in the way of attention. We do, however, finally have some changes coming, the first phase of which is taking place for the Image Designers(much like Squad Leaders are coming first for the scouting professions). But, believe me, we are both in the same sad boat


We are fighting to try and get our profession back, to end all the afking, and taking one of the few things we have will only make things worse for the Entertainers.


Here is another take on it as well. One of the top issues for Entertainers is that our Entertainer Healing XP(which we get from healing mind wounds and Battle Fatigue) is way out of proportion. Unless you have people intentionally wounding themselves, it takes an eternity to obtain. It is very very much identical to Wilderness Survival XP. Only, it's like Wilderness Survival was before the adjustment last september.


If you were to make your camps auto-heal bf, yes you would give yourself a desired perk and use for your camps, but at the same time, you would seriously hurt the Entertainers(and by this I mean those few of us who entertain by choice, not hologrinders or bot makers).


I was a Ranger once long ago, and I want nothing more than to see you finally get something, anything. But, as an Entertainer now, I really think this is a bad idea.



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dhcpSilicon
Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:48 pm
#9






FallingByTheWayside wrote:

It shouldn't auto-heal, otherwise we Rangers would just be taking the place of entertainers, leaving them nothing but the ability to buff....




Can't we say the same for our camps vs a doctor already?
ScoerFusou
Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:09 am
#10






Calculus_Entropy wrote:

I always assumed that an entertainer type would have to be present to heal the BF.





Thats what I always was hoping for. Although auto healing might be a good thing because who knows how hard its going to be to find a Dancer or Musician once the holo grind thing is over. The only place I see them now is inTheed or Coronet.



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Wideshot
Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:11 am
#11

Camps should definately not autoheal BF as that is the entertainers province. However, the fact that an entertainer cannot heal BF in a high-end camp is inexcusable.
hobnail
Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:27 am
#12


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JediQuic:

However it would open up the opportunity to take entertainers out of the cantina some moreto seemore aspects of the game(take a dancer and a Musician out with your hunting group)

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i agree 100%. i played a master musican in both beta2 & once the game whet live. i took up master rifleman/ranger when i got sick of sitting in cantinas 24/7.


while i am very, very, happy with my "new" profession choices (ranger troubles aside ), i would have liked the ability to travel with a group as a musican. i always assumed that the camps-heal-BF would require an entertainer, & think that implementing such an option would greatly enhance both the entertainer & the ranger classes.





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KBoba
Sat Apr 10, 2004 7:44 am
#13

I think a Master Ranger's camp should be able to heal BF.

Every profession is taking something away from other professionsbut I think it should be at the master level if it happens.

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