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Thread: Master Ranger + 2nd Elite mastery = no points for FSCS

jarger22
Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:56 pm
#1

I was just checking out a skills calculator and doing the Math on my chosen professions (Master Ranger/ Master Bounty hunter). About half way there in each one. I noticed that if i want to reach cl80, and unlock my FSCS ( not to become a jedi simply to get the second character slot ) then i will have to dropmy second elite mastery ie bounty hunter(becasue i want to keep ranger), something i am not keen on doing. Can anyone think of any Master Ranger + other elite Mastery that will result in CL80 and still allow the 24 points needed for the FSCS.


hope this makes sense i am so tired at the moment



Cihesh Rike
Master Ranger
Ahazi Server

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Nemo0
Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:10 pm
#2

Creature Handler. I think it is the only one before you unlock. Once you unlock, I don't know (maybe you can pick up enough Jedi skills to get CL 80 with Master Ranger).



Lythender Nirou
Crazy Bothan


Zaene1
Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:01 pm
#3

I am Master Ranger / Master Rifleman. My plan is to drop the master box, the top 2 boxes of trapping and the 4 camping boxes of ranger. I already have scout xp maxxed (1.2 mil) and trapping maxxed (500k) so getting Master Ranger back once I get my 2nd char unlocked shouldn't take too long. I don't know what CL this will drop me to but I'll deal with that when I get there.





Zaene Adeth
QEM Master Ranger QEM
Wanderhome


jarger22
Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:21 pm
#4






Zaene1 wrote:

I am Master Ranger / Master Rifleman. My plan is to drop the master box, the top 2 boxes of trapping and the 4 camping boxes of ranger. I already have scout xp maxxed (1.2 mil) and trapping maxxed (500k) so getting Master Ranger back once I get my 2nd char unlocked shouldn't take too long. I don't know what CL this will drop me to but I'll deal with that when I get there.







There in lies my problem as i believe once you get your Force sensitve character slot opened u cannot then drop your Force sensitve skills to regain the second mastery. Am i wrong in my interpretations (please let me be wrong).



Cihesh Rike
Master Ranger
Ahazi Server

Once a Proud Ranger...Always a Proud Ranger .

Remember Remember the 15th of November the NGE treason and plot, i see no reason why the NGE treason should ever be forgot.

DobePincher
Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:17 pm
#5

You are correct, you cannot drop your FS skills.

Tonja



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Zaene1
Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:09 am
#6






DobePincher wrote:
You are correct, you cannot drop your FS skills.

Tonja





Really, even though there is a surrender skill button in the skills window? If this is true I'll forget about training. Right now I've only used my 4 extra skill points.





Zaene Adeth
QEM Master Ranger QEM
Wanderhome


Norewgian-Scout
Tue Aug 09, 2005 9:10 am
#7


Zaene1 wrote:


DobePincher wrote:
You are correct, you cannot drop your FS skills.

Tonja


Really, even though there is a surrender skill button in the skills window? If this is true I'll forget about training. Right now I've only used my 4 extra skill points.





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Sneev
Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:24 am
#8

From what I understand, once you get through to padawan, you are locked in having to have 6 trained lines of FS skills. You can train up a 7th line, then drop one of the original 6 which is why there is the ability to drop the skill - and I think before you get Padawan you can drop FS skills as well but not sure on that.

They really need to change Ranger to use the other 2 lines of Scout (x4x4) instead of requiring Master Scout I think. The fact that they haven't is probably just an oversight since all the rest of classes were changed to follow that pattern with the CU, I don't see why Ranger would remain the exception. That would give you the flexibility you need to learn the FS skills and retain CL80.



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Vorpaks
Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:29 am
#9



Zaene1 wrote:


DobePincher wrote:
You are correct, you cannot drop your FS skills.

Tonja


Really, even though there is a surrender skill button in the skills window? If this is true I'll forget about training. Right now I've only used my 4 extra skill points.



The rumor is you will loose your second character slot if you do. I have never seen a red name confirm this.



Paks
Master Ranger/Master Creature Handler
-I support ATK play

Cata1in
Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:37 am
#10

1 of my templates is Pistoleer/Ranger and i have 8 sk pts left.. wich will make 2 filled FS trees


u can do ur unlocks without training them, just convert ur xp and fill all 6 when u go to padawan



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Oculus
Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:51 am
#11


jarger22 wrote:


Zaene1 wrote:

I am Master Ranger / Master Rifleman. My plan is to drop the master box, the top 2 boxes of trapping and the 4 camping boxes of ranger. I already have scout xp maxxed (1.2 mil) and trapping maxxed (500k) so getting Master Ranger back once I get my 2nd char unlocked shouldn't take too long. I don't know what CL this will drop me to but I'll deal with that when I get there.




There in lies my problem as i believe once you get your Force sensitve character slot opened u cannot then drop your Force sensitve skills to regain the second mastery. Am i wrong in my interpretations (please let me be wrong).


You're not wrong.

Unles you want to go M.Ranger|M.Creature Handler no template will give you the 24 SP needed to keep your second slot.

You can train a 7th branch later on in order to shift your FS skills around ( that's what the surrender button is for ) but once you unlock you are required to have a minimum of 6 full branches trained at any given time.

Me, I'm going to unlock and turn my current Ranger into a fun alt template were I can use the 24 SP to augment the template and then go Master Ranger | Master [Elite Profession] on my second slot.




Oku Kee'lus
Master Ranger | Master Carbineer

jarger22
Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:01 am
#12






Oculus wrote:
Me, I'm going to unlock and turn my current Ranger into a fun alt template were I can use the 24 SP to augment the template and then go Master Ranger | Master [Elite Profession] on my second slot.




Yeah thats the same plan i am leaning towards although i am quite fond of my current character*sign* ah well when rangers get a revamp it will be al good i guess lol......



Cihesh Rike
Master Ranger
Ahazi Server

Once a Proud Ranger...Always a Proud Ranger .

Remember Remember the 15th of November the NGE treason and plot, i see no reason why the NGE treason should ever be forgot.

Sneev
Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:06 pm
#13

My current plan is to go MBH/MRanger, unlock 2-3 of the Combat related trees (Melee Speed, Accuracy, and Defense (optionally)), then spec out of MBH and into MCH/MRanger to complete 3-4 other trees in Heightened Senses (depending on whether or not I get Melee Defense, most likely Surveying, Luck, Persuasion (and possibly Healing)). I will end my days as either MCH/MRanger, MCH/MDoctor (ie a Vet), MCH/MRifleman, or return to crafting. If I return to crafting then my Alt will take up MCH/MRanger/MDoctor in some combination, but its more likely the alt will take up the crafting as its less work over all. If I am right it should take capping about 27 times to complete the FS process. Since I have no intention of becoming a real Jedi at this point, it doesn't matter as much to me what FS skills I master. What I want is the alt slot. I would give anything except more money for an alt slot

I am sure this will be cause for complaint from those of you who are longtime Rangers, but I think they really ought to a) Change ranger to require only 2 lines in Scout (undoubtedly 0404) as a prerequisite to make it match the rest of the CU design, and b) Either give it some well needed pluses to ranged and melee defense (Rangers as a archetype are "tough" right? Well, where is that tough part?) or reduce the SP costs to match those of Image Designer to reflect the lower utility of the profession. I would of course prefer they fix the profession rather than cheapen it, but SOE has a poor track record on Ranger fixes it seems. Flame away



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