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Thread: Making Monkey In SWG Ranger Style

AgonThalia
Fri May 07, 2004 2:32 pm
#1

I was talking to some friends last night and I was wondering what I could do to help out the ranger community actually make some money.

Right now I have 16 mil in the bank and 90% of that is with sales of hide/ bone/ meat. That is no where near some of the docs or armorsmiths or chefs, but its a decent amount of cash.

Vendors
  • If at all possible get a vendor, it will take about 5 or 6k metal to grind up to hiring IV in the artisan skill tree and about 30 or 45 minutes using a crafting macro.

  • You can get a droid or a bulky vendor in the artisan skill trees, I believe hiring III or IV. Place your vendor in a spot where you know you will be for a long time, once you place it, you cant move it and you cant transfer ownership of the vendor to anyone else.

  • If you have any merchant xp to get novice merchant, I highly recommend it. Place one vendor in your town (if you live in one) and another near either corellia or naboo, preferably in a vendor mall. Visibility is everything.

  • Put all your scrap organic on your highest visibility vendor. I have always as a ranger had storage and inventory issues because I have tons of scrap organics that I know that I will never use. Some one looking for a small amounts of resources will be happy that they dont have to buy huge stacks. I have stuff on my vendor in stacks of 100, 500, 1000, 5000, 10000. I charge 5 to 8 cpu for all grind, 10 to 20 cpu for decent material, and 25 and up on high quality stuff.

  • When I set up a vendor, I sent an email to everyone in my friend list that I had just graduated from the Coronet Community College Education Annex (home of the fighting whitefish) with a business degree, I told them that I carried organics, inorganics, loot and other assorted crap that I have accumulated, attached a waypoint and let them visit.

  • Without spamming my friends... whenever I have a major addition to my vendor I send them a new email thanking them for their business, and at times, I add that I made camoflague kits that look like 6 packs of beer. (Labeled Duff, Bass, Guinness, Sierra Nevada....etc) and that is great for decorating your cantina or house. I make the camo kit and split the pack so that I get more bang for the buck. I sell the "beer" for 500 credits per and you would be surprised how quickly they go.

  • Get yourself a harvester for mineral, chemical, energy, water, all that good stuff. I have one small house, one medium house and the rest of my lots are tied up in harvesters. When I retrieve my units, I sell them for 3 cpu each regardless of quality and I separate them in 5k and 10k stacks for the casual user. I dont know how many times I have found exactly what I want...but in a stack of 100k.

  • Consolidate with your friends, if they are willing to give you their scrap organic, great! Oppma and I have an arrangement, he gives me resources, and I sell it for him. He gave me a 10k stack of meat that I just sold for 250k on my vendor. In our town, there really is no need for competing organics, so he and I have a symbiotic business relationship that works out quite well for both of us.

  • We have all seen items go on the forums for millions of credits. What I do is look at what people are willing to buy for, then offer them on my vendor at 75% the forum average. I have stacks of heavy leather for 5k each, when people are willing to pay 10 to 15k each.

  • Create 3 macros:
    Hide Macro
    /loot;/harvest hide
    Meat Macro
    /loot;/harvest meat
    Bone Macro
    /loot;/harvest bone

    then go to options---controls---keymap---custom---and bind the macro to your right mouse button (or whatever you are comfortable with), once the critter falls, you have both looted and harvested preventing lost opportunities to loot something that might be usefull.

  • Dont be all things to all crafters. I usually harvest for guildies first...or I save a portion of the resources for them. When I take a contract I have a 10k unit minimum. I can harvest 10k of almost anything (except corellian avian or talusian wooly) in a short amount of time.

  • Barter...Barter...Barter.... There is no reason any ranger should pay for armor, buffs, food, BE pets, BE clothes, stims. Make those trades, I would rather harvest 20k hide with 10k going for a new suit of armor, and 10k in cash. If you want great clothes or stims, befriend a BE or Doc, trade them meat for products, they will be more than happy with a fair offer...and usually they will remember you when the next big contract comes out.

  • With all of my barters, I dont spend money on any of my essentials, and I can focus it on buying and repairing my weapons. When it comes time to repair my armor, I go to the armorsmith that I usually hunt for and ask him or her nicely to hook a ranger up.

  • Try not to hunt for only docs, only armorsmiths, etc. Spread the wealth and gain a range of contacts for supplies repairs etc.

  • Making money doesnt happen usually in one big chunk, its a lot of little chunks accumulating and the fact that you will make friends who will be willing to trade their stuff for your stuff, reducing the amount you have to pay out of pocket.


    Ok...that was a long post.

    I hope this helps out a bit.
    One of the problems I see is skill points, If you have already mastered ranger, a combat profession and have medic +1.... when you have enough apprenticeship points, drop medic, master ranger, and some of the wayfaring skills. You will be able to pick these back up later assuming you have maxed out scout xp. Then get yourself to hiring IV or novice merchant... it can be done very quickly. If you want to be creative, use the items you have crafted as a grind...and put them on your new vendor for sale .

    With minimal effort in harvesters, and vendors... you will be making more consistent money and not having to pay for much in the process.

    Good hunting.

    Message Edited by AgonThalia on 05-07-2004 06:49 PM



    Draknev
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  • Calculus_Entropy
    Fri May 07, 2004 3:23 pm
    #2

    Great tips! I have started putting my crap resources on the bazaar for a ridiculously low price thatI won't name here for fear of castration. I have also learned to recycle.I sell my old stuff on the bazaar instead of deleting it. I don't make much money from this, but it makes me feel bad when I delete something that was player crafted.



    Calculus Entropy
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    JBMat
    Fri May 07, 2004 3:23 pm
    #3

    Ok, on topic but being sneaky - that is, I am not using skill points on merchant or artisan -


    1. Find an artisan type, make him/her/it your friend by offering them deals on stuff. Use their vendors. You go to "Joe Baggadonuts" the local merchant and tell him - I will sell to you at what I think is a fair price, minus 10%. You can keep the items for your use, or put them on your vendor. They love you. Proviso, keep an eye on the prices the merchant charges. Anything above 15% over what you got, you pitch a **edit** and get the extra credits.


    2. Harvestors - Artisan - survey - wuzzat?? I dropped 3 wind gennies, 2 mineral and a chem harvestor like 500 m from my house. I did not survey, why? I am not gonna move the stuff. You know how many artisans lose harvestors? I take what I get, be it grindable or great, at whatever is giving the most at the time. The power is a bonus. Rarely do I ever lose money there, usually more than enough to pay for all the harvestors costs, plus power for them. I never buy resources, I give some away - what a nice set of ubese I got, free, for some hides and metal. The smuggler will slice it for the free copper I floated to her to make clamps or knives or something.


    3. Harvesting macro - I can only agree.


    4. I never spend money on what I can get for free. Lately I spend money on weapons, more weapons, and some food buffs. Oh, I got a new killer droid, not a harvestore, a killer. Other than that, I get good meat, I get stims. I get good hides, I get armor. I get crap hides, I get clothes.


    5. Craft machine. Buy one, a decent one. You can craft at home with it, with decent bennies. Best, you can use it for storage at no cost to you in your own house. I have tons of stuff in mine, just setting.


    Nope, not rich, only 7 mil in the bank. And I been on strike and have not sold any hides in weeks. And werk and NASCAR have been taking up playing time too.


    Good luck


    JB


    Nemo0
    Fri May 07, 2004 6:44 pm
    #4

    Sheesh, I don't think I've sold more than 3 or 4 stacks of resources since I started playing (i.e. launch). I just give the stuff away. And yet I still sit at a comfortable 3.5 mil. I'd really like to know how I got it but I'm not really sure. Maybe I just ran a lot more missions than I thought...


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    Eclipse Server





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    KaiRaene
    Fri May 07, 2004 7:33 pm
    #5

    I took a very brief stab and killing bols all day on Naboo as a mid level Rifleman and after a few hours and only walking away with 4 or 5k of meat. I lost interest in harvesting for money. I ran the theme parks and sold the loot for good money.I still have stacks of meat that I have collected while grinding thru ranger. Not to mention a nice stack of milk from one days attempts but I am saving alot of that stuff til I get low and need to sell it. Sad thing is I have yet to meet anyone who can really use my products.



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    GraySeven
    Sat May 08, 2004 6:55 am
    #6

    Making money via resources is extremely easy, but you have to know what the customers want if you want to sell....


    Selling that 10k stack of Dathomir Carnivore meat for 100k (10cpu) isn't going to happen if the stats for that meat suck on ice....no matter how hard it is to kill the creature that supplies it....


    You can either sell through a vendor, as suggested above (my alt character is a Merchant, and I sell my organics that way) but make sure that you let people know that you are selling organics that way (i.e. advertise by skill or droid or word of mouth), or you can harvest-for-hire, i.e. Doctor Gonna Slayya wants 10k units of Lokian Avian meat or Tailor Dandy Threads needs 15k of Yavinian wooly and they offer "x" cpu for your effort.


    If you take the latter choice, you need to learn what stats the customer is looking for. An Armorsmith is interested in OQ, Mall, SR and UT...mostly. Doc's are looking for OQ and PE on meat, etc....trying to sell a Doc 10k of crap-meat for 10cpu is like waving a rib-eye at a vegetarian...they won't bite.


    Check the profession boards of other professions to see what they need and in what quantity and quality...and strike up a conversation with the Armorsmith you buy your armor from, you'd be suprised how easy it is to come to an agreement.






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    Enbow
    Sat May 08, 2004 8:01 am
    #7

    See this is my problem: I'm only 0/0/3/0 Ranger and 2/1/1/1 Rifleman. I often cannot take down big things that give 100+ resources per kill.


    I also just had to bum 100k from an old buddy to buy a crate of pet-stims to help me maul my way through CH.


    Is there anything realitively easy that you guys hunt that yields plenty of resources per kill?


    And thanks for the Harvester ideas. I've got one draining Gemstones from my attempted chef run. I had two doing wind power but the mother f'ers decayed in 3 days, instead of the 28 days I paid for.



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    Washell
    Sat May 08, 2004 5:56 pm
    #8






    Enbow wrote:

    See this is my problem: I'm only 0/0/3/0 Ranger and 2/1/1/1 Rifleman. I often cannot take down big things that give 100+ resources per kill.




    The best paying meat (avian) is on most/all planets only available from lvl 1-20 creatures. And yes, it's very hard getting a decent stacksize of it.


    As for the 100+ resources a kill, it's usually faster to killfour 50-60 r/k thenone 100+.


    So don't let your spirit down 'cause of your skills, the opportunities are there.


    Washell Olivaw, Ranger/Avenger, Eclipse

    AgonThalia
    Sat May 08, 2004 8:32 pm
    #9

    In terms of quantity of meat...you cannot beat carnivore ... rancors, hanadaks, gurreks... all sorts of big critters drop carnivore.

    Unfortunately, they dont draw the big bucks, however, its a good generic resource that almost anyone can use.

    With harvesters,

    get a fusion or a wind generator, take half of the output, and feed your mineral and chemical harvesters with the power they need.

    If you have a decent size account...the heavy harvesters are good, however they are expensive to maintain, if you are on a budget, you cant beat personal harvesters.

    If you are on Lowca... feel free to send me a tell, I enjoy chatting with rangers while i hunt.



    Draknev
    The Last Ranger Correspondent
    Subterfuge and Sabotage, Concealment and Camouflage:
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    Enbow
    Sat May 08, 2004 10:54 pm
    #10

    sorry, I'm a starsider



    I will, however, look into setting up a few harvesters





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    Nemo0
    Sun May 09, 2004 4:50 am
    #11






    Enbow wrote:

    sorry, I'm a starsider



    I will, however, look into setting up a few harvesters









    Well, there is always the /tell Server.name option if you really want to try talking cross server. I just wish there was a way to set up a multiserver chat room. I might need to try /chat join Server.chat and see if it lets me...


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    AgonThalia
    Sun May 09, 2004 8:10 am
    #12

    great idea, I wonder if it would work.



    Draknev
    The Last Ranger Correspondent
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    DWolfe
    Sun May 09, 2004 11:45 am
    #13

    Well, there's always the TeamSpeak server..


    Whatever did happen to that, anyhow? I used the one Rohm set up once, and had a good hour or more's conversation, but never tried again, and haven't seen much mention since I've returned to SWG and the boards.





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