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Thread: Does Camo make you invisible on the radar?

Etarri
Sat May 07, 2005 6:58 am
#1

I was a ranger way back and haven't been for a while. I'm sure the answer is no, but if it does drop you off radar like cover in rifleman...my BH would be...well...killer.



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JBMat
Sat May 07, 2005 9:24 am
#2

Nope.


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fareone
Sat May 07, 2005 11:40 pm
#3

cover ...u must be in emty area no npc no player i think range is 70m.. one shot player can see u..max i got 4 shot for npc.. btw why camo not working on player?..it says it can work on players



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Universal_Knight
Sat May 07, 2005 11:55 pm
#4

Apparently, if you are on leave, you won't be able to camo people that are combatant or special forces, though, it doesn't come with an error message. This is the problem I was having...



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Jubaal
Sun May 08, 2005 5:39 am
#5

The answer is no but it's a good idea.


This could work with Camo-kits i.e. if you apply a camo kit to a Master Ranger then they will disappear from radar.


fareone
Sun May 08, 2005 12:10 pm
#6

if u are on leave ..why they need to see u..they cant attack u or u cant attack them ..why ??



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Outkster
Mon May 09, 2005 6:14 am
#7

Ok, so how does camo work? Because I am a little comfused about the whole deal?


I am Master Rifle, Master Ranger.


Example - I apply conceal on tatooine, I run around fine nothing aggro's me. But as soon as I fire a shot at something it instantly aggro's me & I proceed to run & kite the thing till it's dead.


I know that Rifle cover is borked, is the same true for ranger camo?


I also found that conceal & cover currently don't work. Apply both states & a nuna can break my cover & camo at 65 m's. And when they break my cover & camo theysometimes teleport to my location.


On a positive note - the harvesting is working as intended.




Vorpaks
Mon May 09, 2005 6:29 am
#8

Camo is basically supposed to work like an upgraded maskscent. When you fire at something it will, of course, notice. The only thing that allows you to shoot at something and NOT have it notice is the rifleman shots.

Anything has a chance to break you camo, just like maskscent, but with lower level things this should happen very very rarely. It seems to be happening a lot more than it should post-CU. Also the only thing that should break your camo is something aggressive (red dot on the radar). If a non-aggressive creature broke your camo then this is definitely a bug. The creature warping to your location is also definitely a bug.

Camo says it is supposed to work vs. NPCs but it only seems to work some of the time. When we told the developers that it was broken they responded that it was not supposed to work vs. NPCs at all since we were intended to be a creature-centric profession. Hopefully we can get that statement reversed in the future.



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BioEngine
Mon May 09, 2005 7:00 am
#9






Vorpaks wrote:
Camo is basically supposed to work like an upgraded maskscent. When you fire at something it will, of course, notice. The only thing that allows you to shoot at something and NOT have it notice is the rifleman shots.

Anything has a chance to break you camo, just like maskscent, but with lower level things this should happen very very rarely. It seems to be happening a lot more than it should post-CU. Also the only thing that should break your camo is something aggressive (red dot on the radar). If a non-aggressive creature broke your camo then this is definitely a bug. The creature warping to your location is also definitely a bug.

Camo says it is supposed to work vs. NPCs but it only seems to work some of the time. When we told the developers that it was broken they responded that it was not supposed to work vs. NPCs at all since we were intended to be a creature-centric profession. Hopefully we can get that statement reversed in the future.




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Outkster
Mon May 09, 2005 2:05 pm
#10






Vorpaks wrote:
Camo is basically supposed to work like an upgraded maskscent. When you fire at something it will, of course, notice. The only thing that allows you to shoot at something and NOT have it notice is the rifleman shots.

Anything has a chance to break you camo, just like maskscent, but with lower level things this should happen very very rarely. It seems to be happening a lot more than it should post-CU. Also the only thing that should break your camo is something aggressive (red dot on the radar). If a non-aggressive creature broke your camo then this is definitely a bug. The creature warping to your location is also definitely a bug.

Camo says it is supposed to work vs. NPCs but it only seems to work some of the time. When we told the developers that it was broken they responded that it was not supposed to work vs. NPCs at all since we were intended to be a creature-centric profession. Hopefully we can get that statement reversed in the future.





Thanks for the response.



It sure wuold be nice to use /conceal & cover more than 2 times before being found. Ohh well, I will just change tactics. Not quite the big Game Hunter I expected but it still works for me.


If ranger conceal & rifle cover is nerfed so be it. And any creature can find me no matter the con after 2 shots of rifle conceal shot & camo.


Jubaal
Wed May 11, 2005 5:49 pm
#11

I thought Camo kits were supposed to work on NPCs, otherwise what is the point of them unless you are camo-ing other people. You might as well use mask scent.
Akimari
Wed May 11, 2005 6:37 pm
#12

Camo is still far more effective than mask scent, even with post CU effects
fareone
Thu May 12, 2005 2:33 am
#13






Akimari wrote:

Camo is still far more effective than mask scent, even with post CU effects







before CU.. with maskscent i can shoot5 times (prone), kneel3 times,, now just 2 times kneel or pron, and with mask or not com or not all same ...so why im using camo or mask? .. becouse when i run i dont want any animal see me? most time i use bike ...ithink mask and camo kits are totaly useles



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