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I recently received a 'policy' notification from a neighboring city that they are restricting building any harvester within 1000 meters of their city hall. The policy also advised that all factories in the area were to be placed at a designated 'factory farm'. The policy also requested anyone owning harvesters immediately remove them from the 1k radius of their city hall.

Additional information: There are four cities within close proximity to one another in the northern plain on naboo which is a prime mining area. Honoring this request (which i'm told another city agrees with) would meanseverly limiting land to mine on if we do a defacto increase of the city zone of control to 1k meters for each, since the zones would overlap each other.

As a miner, I replied that my power company could not honor the request. I stated some reasons like not wanting to take a 2-4 million credit bath by not harvesting the best power I can get. Plus, there are redeed fees to consider if harvesters are to be moved immediately. No compensation was offered. (I didn't actually have any fusion generators there at the time from my company and am not entirely sure if I received this because I'm known to run a large fleet of generators or because I'm mayor.)

As mayor, I did advise I would bring this up for city senate discussion (they set policy in our city, not the mayor) although I am part of the senate.

We have had a good relationship with this neighbor, but I am conflicted in terms of being a miner who may need that space if it's the best to mine on, and being a good neighborly mayor by honoring the 'policy' and recommending the citizens do as well, even though that may mean millions lost to do so.

I do run a mining business primarily using lot rentals, meaning my contractors don't want to travel far and severly limiting the northern plain would put undue hardship on the business. Although I do understand some of their reasons for wanting it so as to prevent unsightly sprawl and preserve some hunting area.

Thoughts?

City-City relations are your choice, but they do not own 1000m radius from their city center, they own their city radius which will never go above 450. I have people placing harvesters on my city ourskirts, but they moved as resources shifted. Anyone demanding you remove things from public land is powerhungry. It's not like your placing in front of their city hall or on land that will eventually be part of their city...

It's more a request to you. The have no control beyond thier current city radius and their policy can't be enforced.

I certainly realize they have no power or control to enforce this 'policy'. It was not phrased as a request. Even if I agreed, we could not enforce this on our citizens as we are a multi-PA group as opposed to a PA owned city that they are.

lol...Personally I would place more Harvesters.....what a lame request from them

I think our guild is doing the 25 to 50 meter buffer from max rank 5 size where we recommend to our folks not to build within 475 to 500 meters from a city hall. This helps prevent mistakes in placement from winding up IN the city as we think that would be rude. Anything more than that simple curtesy to prevent building in their city is silly and unenforcable.

Very few cities will actually ever get to rank 5 but as a curtesy our PA will not build within an area that could fall into the direct sphere of influance of another city. In most cases these towns will never hit more than rank 3 so there is about a 200 meter buffer between their homes and our harvesters.

A PA on our server tried this kind of thing with us but they had two problems. First problem we are nearly tripple their size so they really wern't in any position to enforce anything. Second is we would then declare a reciprical arangement which would have had them remove about 10 to 15 more harvesters than we would have had to remove. Once we let them know that and talked to them they realized that a 25 to 50 meter buffer is fine. If everybody enforced a no harvester within 1k of a city hall on many planets it would be impossible to plant any harvesters period and that is silly.

The growth ranks of the city are there for your houses and factories and harvesters. If 1km diamter town is not enough to bad that is all the space you have allotted anything else is free range.

Kaide

The best initial way for a city to have a nice buffer, is choose a wise location. The spot we have is boarded by water, which is a buffer zone noone can grief. Plus the hill area has very limited placement. Placing on wide open plains means that industrial areas could end up uncomfortably close.

Cities on wide open spaces really need to design buffers into their layout. Use that metropolis radius as an empty buffer, perhaps with some of the taller garden structures to add a bit of a block. Any kind of agreement simply won't work. The moment you move your harvesters, someone not from any agreeing cities will take those spaces. Zoning rights are the only way to keep a buffer really. If this city truely believes that everyone on the server will cooperate in keeping those areas clear, they're going to be in for a shock.

Our city is using the metropolis radius mainly for our industrial section so a few extra harvesters out there really won't be noticed much.

Kaid

Our city has a strict no-build policy for harvestors within our radius for our citizens, but as for others, I wouldn't even think of asking them to move it unless it was an obvious grief attempt, especially if the concentration is verifiable. We have zoning turned on so they are limited how close they can build to our buildings anyways, but I can't imagine anyone not laughing in a Mayors face if they were told that they couldn't harvest a high concentration when they are not a citizen.

~~Shabhaii, Mayor of Tombra, Naboo
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As a Mayor in your galaxy, I hereby would like to announce my policy decision; as of now all profits made within the same galaxy as Z'ha'dum shall be taxed 110%. Taxes may be paid via /tip to my bank.

Please forward this along to the Mayor making demands of you That's hillarious...

saj

I would say then your decision was a good one. Perhaps they have their reasoning for requesting it but their city policy certainly should not dictate yours. I know you probably want to make peace in the area but you do have draw the line somewhere.

The best advice I can give is to try and find out what their reasoning is for the "request", see it from there perspective (maybe you will agree and find it does work for you) if it does not fit in with your city plan then explain to them your reasons for your denial. It could go two ways, a civilized agreement (even if its to agree to disagree) or an all out land ownership war. Good luck with it.

I'm sorry but WHY did you guys build that close together in the first place... you know that there will probably be a radius block on Shuttleports that may be within your towns limitations...

I am anti-griefing - but if I got a message worded like that I would go out the next day and surround their city with harvesters and factories...

If you want something from someone you ask politely - not demand it. I would completely disagree that "policy"

Alternatively send them a "policy" that they need to redeed and relocate their city since there will be no building of cities within 3000 m of your town see what they say to that