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Thread: Is it possible to Revoke citizenship from some one as Mayor?

Corvett
Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:59 am
#1


A Memeber of our Miltia accidently gave zoneing rights to a person instead of banning them. He has now laid down over 40 houses and transferred structures to people we did not want in our city. I need to be able revoke the citizenship of these people if there is a way. I am sending in a ticket as it seems this person exploited the zoneing rights as only 1 person was accidently give this right? Any suggestions?

Message Edited by Corvett on 04-05-2005 11:00 AM



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KJFett
Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:12 am
#2

2 things....and you are not going to like either


1) no, you can not revoke citizenship


2) they didn't exploit.


You militiaman gave zoning to them. This is an open right with no real restriction. They are able to drop all the houses they want, and /transferst is a valid command in the game.


This is just one of the many reasons that the militia list needs to remain short. It is also why you dont hotbar the commands, but instead mandate to all memebers that the /commands be used. It is much harder to get those confused.


The militiaman received the system message that they had granted %NT zoning rights for 24 hours. They dropped the ball. I dont see a CSR helping much in this case.



Anika Mon'Sulu
Corvett
Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:51 am
#3






KJFett wrote:

2 things....and you are not going to like either


1) no, you can not revoke citizenship


2) they didn't exploit.


You militiaman gave zoning to them. This is an open right with no real restriction. They are able to drop all the houses they want, and /transferst is a valid command in the game.


This is just one of the many reasons that the militia list needs to remain short. It is also why you dont hotbar the commands, but instead mandate to all memebers that the /commands be used. It is much harder to get those confused.


The militiaman received the system message that they had granted %NT zoning rights for 24 hours. They dropped the ball. I dont see a CSR helping much in this case.




I am not to sure about that. Only one person was given rights even if it was by accident the oethers were not given rights.




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KJFett
Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:37 am
#4






Corvett wrote:





KJFett wrote:

2 things....and you are not going to like either


1) no, you can not revoke citizenship


2) they didn't exploit.


You militiaman gave zoning to them. This is an open right with no real restriction. They are able to drop all the houses they want, and /transferst is a valid command in the game.


This is just one of the many reasons that the militia list needs to remain short. It is also why you dont hotbar the commands, but instead mandate to all memebers that the /commands be used. It is much harder to get those confused.


The militiaman received the system message that they had granted %NT zoning rights for 24 hours. They dropped the ball. I dont see a CSR helping much in this case.




I am not to sure about that. Only one person was given rights even if it was by accident the oethers were not given rights.






Let me explain it in more detail so you see what I am saying.


Player Xgets zoning in the city of utopia. Player Xhas 10 lots. They drop 10 small houses. They then get 10 friends to show up, and /transferst (friend's name here) and do so till all 10 lots are transfered. ThenPlayer Xdrops 10 more houses and repeat with 10 more friends. If player X wanted to get 50 houses in the city of Utopia, he would need 50 houses and 50 friends to declare residence. None of the other friends would be able to drop houses. They are simply the grantee of the house. As it exists, there is no breaking of rules in that example. Is it greifing? Well, that's what youll have to explain to the CSR. I dont see him making them packup tho. This is a very common method of city takeovers that has been around since player cities went live. It is as the CSRs like to say "Working as intended".



Sad thing is...the militia member only had to revoke the zoning rights to stop the whole thing from happening. I would be wondering if the member did it on purpose. Wouldnt be the first time a miltiaman took a bribe. Not that this happened in this case, just that I would be wondering if I were in your shoes.





Anika Mon'Sulu
bluejanus
Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:42 pm
#5

About your only choice would be to destroy the city, so talk to the rest of the citizens and see if that's ok.





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cynnder
Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:27 pm
#6

Funny thing.....if we would have been asked to remove the houses, we might have. We where just accused of taking over.



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bluejanus
Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:49 pm
#7






cynnder wrote:

Funny thing.....if we would have been asked to remove the houses, we might have. We where just accused of taking over.






I believe it was asserted in the related Kettemoor Galaxy post that someone sent a tell that they were going to take over the town.





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Structures vendor in the HorkCo Shop near Coronet, Corellia (CLOSED)
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PykeLee
Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:58 pm
#8

please tell me who? and you got a screen shot of that?

please stay tuned for the next episode of "as the galaxy turns"



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bluejanus
Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:24 pm
#9






PykeLee wrote:
please tell me who? and you got a screen shot of that?

please stay tuned for the next episode of "as the galaxy turns"





I'm just drawing from the North Star post, Pyke.





Isander Aperin - Kettemoor Master Architect (home: Serenity, Naboo)
Structures vendor in the HorkCo Shop near Coronet, Corellia (CLOSED)
Structures vendors in the Mos Mesric Mall near Mos Espa, Tatooine (CLOSED)
Structures, jedi kit, crafting station and resource vendors in Serenity near Kaadara, Naboo (CLOSED)
MDEUK
Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:13 am
#10


1. No, there is no way to revoke citizenship.


2. This is not an exploit - just poor management on your part. You need tight rules on your militia to run a city effectively - now you will have to revert to politics to minimise the damage, but I suspect you won't be mayor for much longer


3. Your militia member should have immediately revoked their zoning rights - where were you guys when these houses were being laid?


Make sure you keep an eye on anyone running for mayor and get your citizens to vote for you to ensure that you are not wiped out of office.


Also, exactly how could someone lay 40 houses inyour city? I'm amazed that any established city has space for 40 houses, or have they put some outside the city limits too?


Whatever happens, good luck!

Message Edited by MDEUK on 04-06-2005 01:24 PM

Corvett
Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:26 am
#11



cynnder wrote:
Funny thing.....if we would have been asked to remove the houses, we might have. We where just accused of taking over.





You might have? Sorry but we can't take the chance on a might have. Never the less, I have had great support from your communtiy and what you all did was wrong. Maybe it is legal maybe it's not, it is still wrong on every level. This post was NOT to discuss this. I was asking a question to the politician community.



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Ralphito
Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:15 am
#12

take it to ur server forums, leave the arguing outta this one



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Slikflash
Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:39 pm
#13

How do you revoke the zoning rights ?



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