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Thread: An easy way to stop the city swap.

Bloomman
Sat Nov 29, 2003 4:08 am
#1

Don't let a new toon declare any residency in any home for XX days. 14, 21, I'm not sure of the right number to be fair to real players.


This would not harm brand new accounts because they could still have a home, just not declare. The only purpose to declare is to become a citizen. This would only effect Mayor's taking the shady route to growth.


This would be so simple to institute, very little to change. Just adding a timer.


This could be done now, preventing all sorts of server swapping ghost towns from having their own private shuttle in the backyard. This is a chance to reward all us hard working Mayors that have earned every vote with real people.


For those who say "People will plan ahead and place houses 2 weeks in advance". This is true, but it will not only hold back, but most likely set back the cities using this method. Long enough to where the Mayor will have to get some real citizens or have the city crumble allowing a new Mayor to make a go of it and grow to shuttle size first.


Thoughts?




Tokemhi Bloom
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Motrum
Sat Nov 29, 2003 5:13 am
#2

That was a good Idea... Lets see if this happens
Kriel
Sat Nov 29, 2003 6:44 am
#3

its too early to say still if its even a problem, once the city grows to level 3 or higher the costs get quite high, and to have to cover all the maintenance on the houses could really hurt the mayor's wallet
darklightr1
Sat Nov 29, 2003 10:29 am
#4

Yes but as the city grows, and you reach your levels, and get more people, you can do away with the other city swapping players. right or wrong it does allow you to get the city to a level that will attract people. dont get me wrong i have only done this with one guy and we share character use on each server so i dont consider this bad.



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BlindTyldak
Sat Nov 29, 2003 10:49 am
#5

I say just make it so that people have to physically enter their home once a week for the vote to count. Don't make the house disappear, just if they don't show up they don't qualify as a voting citizen for that week.


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Nyree-Celesta
Sat Nov 29, 2003 11:02 am
#6






BlindTyldak wrote:

I say just make it so that people have to physically enter their home once a week for the vote to count. Don't make the house disappear, just if they don't show up they don't qualify as a voting citizen for that week.


~~Shabhaii, Mayor of Tombra, Naboo
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"The FS system only rewards the Veruca Salt's of the MMO world . . . not the Charlie's"





Bad idea. There are a lot of people who travel, work or lose interest in the game for more than a week at atime. I think the min timer for declaring residency is a much better idea.




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BlindTyldak
Sat Nov 29, 2003 11:10 am
#7

No, because that penalizes those who legitimately want to count as part of a city for an inordinate period. Especially with vehicles coming (and if you haven't tested them they are FAST) there's no reason why someone can't hop to their home planet and check out the city once a week. And if, as you state, people lose interest in the game for more than a week at a time, why should their vote "count" if they are not contributing? Yes, I can understand that people legitimately go on vacation and such, but then their vote just doesn't count for one week, rather than making ANYONE wait two or three weeks for it to count. Besides, in the long run, what would that fix? So someone's a non-voting ghost for two weeks befopre their vote starts cycling. After two weeks, its still the same thing.


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Bloomman
Sat Nov 29, 2003 4:18 pm
#8

I'm not saying that if someone doesn't log in for a week they should lose residency, that's not fair to people that leave on vacations or the casual player who get's budy over the holidays. I'm just suggesting that aBRAND NEW toon should not be able to declare for a certain amount fo time. After that initial timer is up, they always have the power to declare as they are now considered a real toon.



Tokemhi Bloom
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Former Mayor of Celestial Gardens
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Bloomman
Sat Nov 29, 2003 4:25 pm
#9






Bloomman wrote:

For those who say "People will plan ahead and place houses 2 weeks in advance". This is true, but it will not only hold back, but most likely set back the cities using this method. Long enough to where the Mayor will have to get some real citizens or have the city crumble allowing a new Mayor to make a go of it and grow to shuttle size first.






That's busy not budy in my last post and I already aswered the issue of the "same problem in two weeks". They will lose advancment as they scramble and better cities with real people will step up in the meantime.




Tokemhi Bloom
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Clonewolfe
Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:12 am
#10

Server swapping is for towns that start 5 km from nearest shuttle port. As no one is going to run that distance to vote live withou tmissions terminals. Of course some people complain but they probably have built there town 1km from one of the standards you can go blow..... The town (eye saw) i am a member or did quiet a lot of swapping and will have its shuttle port next week yay! no more running 4.5km to catch a starship to another planet for resource hunting
Bloomman
Mon Dec 01, 2003 12:12 am
#11






Clonewolfe wrote:
Server swapping is for towns that start 5 km from nearest shuttle port. As no one is going to run that distance to vote live withou tmissions terminals. Of course some people complain but they probably have built there town 1km from one of the standards you can go blow..... The town (eye saw) i am a member or did quiet a lot of swapping and will have its shuttle port next week yay! no more running 4.5km to catch a starship to another planet for resource hunting





No, server swapping is for losers that cannot get out and find live citizens. I have my city 5.5K from the nearest shuttleport and I will also be getting mine next Thursday. All my citizens made the walk. Only 16 were members of the guild I'm in, the rest came after the city was up. Try doing some work and recruiting a few people would you? It's people like you with you personal shuttleports and empty houses that make me sick. I hope the devs crash down on all of you that have filled your streets with small houses that are all locked and empty. What really gets me mad about this is all those honest Mayors out there who worked hard for the city and because they may not have enough people will not get the shuttleport this week. All because they won't resort to this lowest and most shame filled tactic.


Seeing as how the Shuttleport is the ultimate prize for any Mayor (until some start opening city specializations) I hope and pray that the Devs make this move I have suggested fast or at least some other counter measure. Please don't let these ghost towns enjoy what the live ones have earned.




Tokemhi Bloom
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Havoclord
Tue Dec 02, 2003 8:53 am
#12

The BEST solution will be to let people only have one declared residence per SOE account. This will stop the Ghost Cities in their tracks!


Your approach is OK, as long as the new characters automatically declare residence after the time limit, which should be 14 days, I think.






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Chibi-Bar
Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:04 am
#13

what about cross server players? (there are a few out there) since you are only allow one character per server.. sometimes people don't want to change class (within the same server) since they like what they do, but want to try out other classes (thus going to other server instead of getting another account) what if they switch back and forth... it is entirely possible.


(I did this with other game... not this one) since there is a limit in skill points.. you can only do so much before having to forget and do other things (I haven't done my holo chase.. cause well. I love my architect..) Thus it will ruin other players..


Why does the ghost cities bother you so much? is it because they can get "ghost" people and artificially raise their city level? That just mean the maintence will be paid by the real residence.. which can be a problem in the long haul... there is a balance in itself.. having all the "nice stuff" and having to pay all out of pocket might not be easy...


I know that other players wanted their "OWNZ" city and such... there was plenty of time to place them.. (almost a whole day) maybe not on your original chosen planet.. but there are other options.... thus.. you could always join another city.. or wait and hope one of the other cities fall and start your own.





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