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Plinka we could really use all the details on Zoning Rights here. Many people keep repeating that its the ability to stop anyone from building in your town.

Is that true? Are there limits?!

Please define this ability CLEARLY for us!

Thanks!

GreenMarine wrote:

A mayor with Civic Policy I can set the city to "require zoning rights." When a city requires zoning rights no one may place a structure in the city without permission. The mayor and the militia can grant a person permission to place structures for 24 hours with /grantZoningRights. Using /grantZoningRights again on someone that already has rights to your city will revoke the rights.

That should answer it for you. The change now is that you get zoning at novice. So woo hoo to being able to plan your city ! =)

But according to Vass it only works in your current zone of influence, not your potential zone. We NEED to be able to extend that out to our potential, or there's going to be some major griefing going on.

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For me I see a one week window of trouble - When we hit city size 4 in 3 weeks we will place a shuttle port leaving us open for a lot of potential people to come in and place on the edge of the city. I consider it a personal challenge as Mayor to speak to anyone looking to place in Ragnarok to ensure placement is correct with the plans. Once we hit level 5 its plain sailing

I guess the logical answer to that problem would be to kindly ask the person to move the structure to another location or /warn /ban them from the city. Hopefully people will be smart enough to learn from that before long.

I think it would be a mistake to give us zoning rights for the entire potential city size. You would have a near monopoly on 900m diameter of land. If it isn't in your city yet, you don't get to control it.

The original poster's real question (which he/she didn't state very clearly) wsa wether or not grantingzoningrights prevented the building of houses inside your city radius, they thought it only applied to other structures. To which I say it has to, otherwise the ability is useless.

I agree.

I am 100% certain that Ragnarok will be level 5 city, growing every week as we have the infrastructure in place already. So for our city then it would make sense to have full zoning rights of full 900m. However, if you give it one city you have to give it them all. If a city just wants to stay at a level 2 city then you will have masses of land where no one can ever build.

Personnaly I see it as a challenge in the first few weeks until we hit level 5 and then its plain sailing. Im a Mayor, im there for a reason and thats looking after my city.

I answered the original question with the quote from the Dev. You can control who places in your city radius.

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BlindTyldak wrote:

But according to Vass it only works in your current zone of influence, not your potential zone. We NEED to be able to extend that out to our potential, or there's going to be some major griefing going on.

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That's not griefing. That's land that's in contention and multiple parties struggling for control. Or, to sum that up on one word: Politics.

The politician/city systems weren't designed to be a safe way for someone to control a large area of land. They were designed to create new gameplay elements within the SWG universe that required the cooperation of large groups of people.

/agree Plinka

For those worried about space. We have organised our city from day one and it currently stands at 103 buildings growing daily with PA Halls, Smalls, Mediums and Larges. From North to South it spans about 700m and East to West about 450. So in a 450m Radius I would estimate around 250 to 300 buildings as long as you plan well.

Good luck !

Okay okay, let me clarify as someone else tried but seems to have been ignored.

From the things I have read and the clarifications that I have read granting znoing rights to an individual only gives them permission to place/build industrial structures and/or civic structures (like cantinas and hospitals). I was under the impression after reading several dev comments (I'll have to dig to find all of these) that there was no way to stop a player from building a home in your city.

So, my question is: Can a player build a home within city limits without first obtaining permission? Must a player have zoning rights granted to them BEFORE building a HOMEin an established part of the city?

See where the confusion is here?

The original design was for grant zoning rights to be for commercial structures. The Devs in 1 dev chat said they did not want private cities. After much discussion and review of things the devs changed their minds and now grant zoning rights affects every strcuture, extractors, houses, factories, PA halls. If you enable zoning rights no one can build anything unless you /grantzoningrights to that person. I think it only lasts for 24 hours too.