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Thread: The Day They Saved a Player City All Others Tough Luck
I partially agree with Abido, on that CSR should not "take over" a city for any reason. But after reading about what the previous mayor did,I find my loyalties divided.
One solution would have been to "freeze" the city hall and take away the mayor rights from the player in question. Perhaps giving the citizens of that city time to go into politics, and elect new mayor. But with the CSR taking over the situation they truly destroyed any hope we, in the smaller cities, had about ever getting a chance to grow.
My guild lives in Abidos Techno City and I'm a citizen there. But my PA hall and half of my guild has to live outside the city line, because we can not grow anymore. The devs need to seriously think a new solution to this city cap system. We need more fluctuation in city sizes (if they are to be the only solution for city accessories) than one chance in six months, and that chance is then pulled out by CSR.
Why not make the voting of mayor, even one in office, more important. All citizens who have not voted for the past four elections are booted out of the city. They still live inside the city line, but are not considered occupants of the city. Allowing the more active cities a chance to grow in to the metropolises they might deserve, and the non-active metropolises would dwindle down to towns.
The CSR did what he thought was a right choise, but he didn't think of the game system and political situation of the whole planet. They need to change the system here.
Worse than that is the fact that you are only thinking about yourself/your citizens. Who's to say that your city would've been the lucky one to go up, isn't that what this is all about is YOUR city. What about the residents of that city? Somebody there did something right to beat you didn't they? Way to go in discouraging CSR's to be helpful.
Padre
Mayor Level 4 on Tatooine
WildmanHT wrote:First off...Korrack stop agreeing with me LOLNow that we know the facts this is just another post about not getting a shuttleport but with a different twist.
Bingo!
Padre
As stated before I first thoughed the CSR did wrong, but after getting the reason behind the problems he acted correctly by banning the mayor and just putting himself as dummy. Also there is stated that the CSR hasn't changed anything just replaced a banned account to prevent a distruction of a city. And a city is stated as a groupwork not a single person, so why should the city have suffered by one persons violation that leaded to ban. But they shouldtake away the threat that a mayor can make by destroying the city hall. Just make it so if the mayot disided to step back he can do so, and the citizens get warned that the city is without a mayor. And if this state is preserved for more then 1 week *BOOM* bye bye city.
With knowing all the fact i read here the CSR did what he had to do.
I am confused by one thing.
As I understand it the only way the city would have lost it's shuttle port is if it lost residents andno longer had enough to be aCity, not just because a new Mayor was elected. I think from reading the manual, that they'd have a week to get their residency back to the required level before they lost anything anyway.
Please correct me if I am wrong, we are thinking about switching the mayor in our town and I'd hate to lose our Metropolis rank just because we did.
Even though the player broke his SOE agreement what he did to the city was not the same violation. If you have a problem of something like this then boot his butt out of office. Now if to fight back he takes the city down or something then that is another situation all together. But he didn't he hiked taxes up and misused funds. If I was to do that in the my city ( I wont guys don't worry) I would expect to be VOTED out of office and BANNED from the city. I do NOT think the CSR's should get involved. It is not a bugged issue. It is a gaming one. CSR's should deal with people who are shooting through walls and stuff not misuse of political power. Because misuse of power happens in real life, the others don't. Lets make that distinction here.
I am sorry for the members of that city but hey, you voted for him. I voted for the other guy................
Wow. Usually the Forums involve Whiners whining against griefers. NOW, it involves Whiners whining FOR the griefer.
What you people don't seem to get is that the offensive mayor WAS GONE Account was BANNED, nonexistant, end of story. The city had ALREADY secured a new mayor, and was simply waiting for the new mayor to come in.
With this in mind, I say to you that your argument's basis is TOTALLY UNFOUNDED. You are arguing that the CSR's actions prevented other cities from advancing. That estimation is wrong. The city, following the election, would have continued as normal. From what I see, no, there probably WAS no reason for the CSR to assume Mayorship. If he had let things be, the mayorship would have passed regularly on to the next guy. At this point the old mayor was not in any condition to do anything anyway.
The only reason I can see for the CSR to assume mayorality, is that the game may not handle passing power from a non-existant player to well. In that case, it WOULD be a bug, it WOULD be the Dev's responsibility, and the CSR WOULD have every right to assume Mayorality.
WildmanHT wrote:
First off...Korrack stop agreeing with me LOL
So whats next, do we need to hire a real life person to do a background check first before we elect someone mayor.
Now that we know the facts this is just another post about not getting a shuttleport but with a different twist.
I COMPLETELY agree! Oh wait...DOH!
Blaming the members of the city for voting for a mayor who turned out to be an idiot is as idiotic as trying to sell your account and your city on eBay. I was mayor of a very prosperous city and nobody knows me from Jack. Had I wanted to grief them, it would have been easy. As I stated before, it was never the DEVs or CSRs intention to allow a mayor to quit or leave and cause the city to poof. When a mayor resigns in real life, does city hall disappear and the highways all crumble to dust? This has been demonstrated numerous times with CSRs interfering with mayors who start deleting civic structures just because they are going to lose the next election. It's the DEV's fault for not allowing mayors to resign or having safeguards against griefing mayors. At least they are trying to help when they know somethign is happening. This help was the result of CSR tickets, not a random CSR interfering.
No, he came in to make sure that the city didn't delete itself since the mayor no longer existed. (banned account) I can see where he is coming from however it sets a precedent that a city is not responsible for the actions of it's elected mayor. You have to realize that for the good or the bad he is who you chose and his actions are resultant of your choices. Mayor wigs out and raises taxes too high? Your fault for giving him the power. Mayor wigs out and destroys city hall? Your fault for giving him the power. Mayor violates TOS and gambles his account away? Your fault for giving him the power over your city. I'm sorry if this sounds cruel but that is the way cities were implemented. If you want it to change then petition the developers but don't complain about a system working as intended.
Now I doagree, the mayor should not be able to destroy city hall on a whim, however he can. That pretty much means you are going to want a trustworthy mayor and not some random guy with novice politician. Even if this random guy is in your guild. Same holds true for what he plans on doing with his account. He shouldn't be able to violate the TOS and in so doing screw over his citizen base...but he can.And please don't use the "our 90 some citizens were being griefed!" defense because there are 90 some other players who's gameplay will be enhanced as a result of an actoin like this. Circle of life so to speak.
If my town got taken over by a random new guild who elected their guy into office (fat chance since there isn't any room) and then threatened to destroy our city/did and they all moved along eliminating our spot on the rank 3 list I would swear like a sailor, come in here and complain my ass off, swear some more, propose a way to prevent city hall from being destroyed by one person, then go back and rebuild. I would not bring a CSR into this because we lost our town fair and square. Does it suck? Yes. Is it my fault for letting that happen? Yes.