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Thread: Do you think we are being fair?

Scroh
Sat Jan 24, 2004 12:54 am
#27

I would email a warning to your entire population, then jack up property taxes to the max. You can refund money to each non-offending citizen (yeah that's gonna be a pain, but you could...).


Problem is you cant cityban, meaning these guys get the benefit of hte city without having to accept your legitimacy or whatever. Whatever you do, don't let them win an election lol. Trade ghost citizens across servers even if you can afford housing and maintenance



I really like the large group discussion though - if you can meet with a few of them and a few of your people - let them know that, regardless of what grievances they feel they have against you - you're here to stay. They can't just challenge you to duels endlessly until you finally cave and they beat you. And even if they did, whoopity doo! War? Yeah, right. I'm assuming y'all aren't different factions, or war would already be a moot point lol.


Basically, don't give them options. If they want to stay on "their land" and continue to "enjoy it", theyre gonna have to buy into your city. High taxes and a lack of zoning rights to their members (DEFINATELY turn zoning rights on) will eventually force them to capitulate, one way or another.


This is interesting content-wise, I'd have to agree! Keep us posted on how things work out, and good luck to you. Above all else, make sure your supporters stay behind you - you do that by being patient and more polite and reasonable than the other guy


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Z0idberg
Sat Jan 24, 2004 8:42 pm
#28

We finally got a response from TCB today. The leader of the guild sent one of our citizens this email. (Aside from the initial threat, nobody from TCB has sent me anything)


after much debate TCB has decided that for the right price, we will pull up stakes and move elsewhere- we still believe that we were on the land before and KSS structure but that is besides the point. A war does no one any good. We have come up with a figure of 1.2 million payable to any member of TCB for our land. Let me know- we could move quickly once payment has been made.

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Needless to say, our city is not going to pay any amount of money to these guys. They are welcome to move at any time, but we will not be party to extortion.

If worse comes to worse, we will declare war, and at that point we will just ask our friends from an all-wookie PA to come and back us up - nothing is quite so frightening as a crowd of angry wookies interspersed with the pirates of KSS.



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NJ62
Tue Jan 27, 2004 9:46 pm
#29

Look, they can't fight you without your consent. So there are a few options:



  1. The ones who are not declared residents can be citybanned and unable to use all your lovely structures.

  2. Those who do declare residence have to pay taxes.

  3. They can vote in their own candidate (never going to happen).

You tried to handle this well, but they are being ridiculous. Other than the taxes, there is really no bone of contention. The only potentially difficult issue at this moment is that sometimes residency is bugged and even if they are residents elsewhere, they may still not drop off your roster, and will still continue to be taxed long after they move out. But theoretically they could avoid income taxes simply by declaring residency in a structure outside the city, or never declaring in the first place.


Keep your chat logs. Tell them you won't pay. If they continue to harass, /addignore. If they whine to a CSR you'll have the logs to back you up. The game is made such that hostile (or in this case not-so-hostile) takeovers can occur, and those taxed have two options: pay or move. So take a hard line and refuse to cave, because when push comes to shove, they have an indefensible position.





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Z0idberg
Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:25 pm
#30

Judge sends me another emailtoday(cleverly marked "Squatting invoice" lolololololo he pzwen0d me!111) that ups our "debt" by 10k. Then he sends me a tell around midnight saying "Just to let you know, the price has gone up 10k." I told him to go **edit** himself because I was getting tired of his nonsense. I asked him how he plans to enforce his ridiculous claims. He used the same BS he has been using the entire time, threats and complete nonsense. Every question I asked him, he refused to answer, as per usual. He demanded to know why we wouldn't go to war with his 2 person guild. At this point, killing their pathetic asses would not give me any satisfaction, so I just /addignored him and /reported. I had some other people who they had harassed do it too.

Going to war with them would be ridiculous. Since our town is right next to their patch of dirt, it would be ridiculously easy for them to kill AFK members. I don't want anyone in my town to feel unsafe there just because some newbie jerkoffs are trying to terrorize us.



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HiroBlack
Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:14 am
#31

Well, he does seem to be going for that most coveted of prizes among the Griefnig set: "Biggest Loser on the Server."


Don't get twisted about it though, it just validates his approach. I posted something above that had the error of not being able to ban citizens, but the rest of it is pretty valid, diplomatic, and civilized.


Buuuutttt... seeing as how he's really and truly asking for it... There is always the old standard of placing a dish turret from an opposing faction in front of his PA Hall. The dish turret has a built in faction detector, so the thing is going to go off and provide a free transport to the clone center for anyone who gets near it. The trick is if he is the same faction as you - then you have to find someone who is from the opposing faction (that you trust or can pay to remove it later) that won't mind risking a turret. I would think there would be smugglers who would do it for the right price, and it would provide a more satisfying way of spending your credits than on extortion money.


Of course doing the above is borderline griefing, and two wrongs never make a right. That said, I'm guessing right about now it'd be a lot of fun for you to just stand back and watch the mayhem ensue as these clowns try to get into their homes. If they really are just a four person guild they will have some trouble taking out a turret without backup. Perhaps this will give you the leverage you need to negotiate their departure. On the other hand, placing a dish turret might just escalate the matter, so chose your course of action wisely. He did say he wanted a war though...


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Z0idberg
Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:48 am
#32

I would actually be pretty happy just ignoring them for the rest of my life. Judge is so annoying that just don't have the patience to deal with him, whether or not he is on the business end of a blaster. They will get tired of being taxed eventually, and I assume they will leave. If not, they don't really take up enough space for me to be concerned about their nonsense. Since I am ignoring Judge, I really have no desire to talk to his guild leader either.



Name: Eagon
Mayor of Swooper's Run on Tattoine. A Rank V city with all the amenities. Ask me about citizenship.
Master Politician
Master Scout
Novice Medic
4-0-0-3 Marksman
0-0-3-0 Ranger
2-0-0-1 Rifleman

I am prone to ignoring people who I find annoying, both in the game and on the forums. If it seems like I am not responding to your posts, it is probably because you have very little worth saying.
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