Politician Archive
Thread: Structure Placement Exploit?
An update on this; the challenger totaled 38 votes this week and our incumbent won with 55.
No new citizens were added, so perhaps the house placeing trick was not possible for them this week.
The bad news is that they were able to get 31 of the 34 new votes back again. This proves that these characters were not deleted. However all of the new voters that I have seen personally are brand new characters; unguilded, no badges, starting clothes.
Message Edited by hajihill on 03-16-2004 06:36 PM
This looks to me like they had help from the inside. "Permission admin zenox"? Come on. Something isn't above board here.
While I would normally NEVER suggest such a thing, this would be one situation where I might advocate your disbanding of the city. It's one thing to lose office in a legitimate election, but these bozos obviously aren't playing by the rules, so why should you? Fight fire with fire. Take your City Hall (and the citizens who are loyal to you) and set up somewhere else.
That is our last resort and we will carry it out if we must.
In the mean time we are calling for help. Any who are friends of Elysium or have an interest in helping us here please contact our Mayor, Archonia on Starsider.
Thank you, we will keep this updated.
I'm not a player on your server. But i'm recent new mayor myself, and find this post realy scary how some people can make so much trouble. That of how they managed the first time to set up so many houses is a mystery and i think it will keep one for some time. That of the last step i find that there have to be changes, growing range when you city upgrade ranks is normal. But there should be done something about houses that get into range, they shouldn't be on the structure list and not counted to citizens imo.
I have posted already some ideas in an earlier post, go and see what you think. Maybe if it get a hot thread it will be noticed and perhaps changes something. The post is at: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Politician&message.id=29150
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One person with zoning rights can plop down many houses then transfer the structure to someone else. Militia members can grant zoning rights so I would remove all citizens from the Militia for starters, and then do not grant anymore zoning rights for anyone else until it gets settled.
Thank you Arsheba, that's good information.
For the record we have removed all militia members.
As much as I would be surprised to find that a former militia member helped them, that is preferable than the use of an exploit because it means we can prevent it from happening again.
Regarding the houses they placed outside before we upgraded, that is apparently a valid tactic according to the CSRs. I can see how this would be legitimate if we were talking about an actual majority of players with an interest in the city, but in our case it happens to be three such players with help from dozens of outsiders who will most likely never enter the city again if the challenging mayor wins.
Unfortunately SOE really could care less. Oh they will say things like "valid tactic" and "we can not get involved" but they do have the tools to see if those chars are used and who they belong to and to let a city be over ran by 3 ppl, while lame, is what SOE is all about.
I, as sad as it makes me to say this, would probably do as some others said and disband the city.. pick up all placable structures and get a new town hall and start over. I personally would join your city if I played on that server but I do not 
No intelligent person would say this was a legit tactic to over run a pc, I feel sorry for your troubles.
Message Edited by RellikCro on 03-20-2004 10:13 PM