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Thread: Petition for the addition of a Remove citizen/ structure option

LordMaxx
Fri Nov 28, 2003 12:03 pm
#14






Seneardon wrote:

/sighn


Not so much to boot trouble makers, but destroy the never decaying houses of inactive people or those who have quit but there homes/harvestors never decay...compound this by a few months and we have a real ghost town situation =( And the CSR's already have said sorry nothing they can do...






It would just open the door for griefing...you should have control as to who places in your city...but if you grow into it you inherit it...the only choice is to not grow...I would mind a politician being able to move things Slightly to accomplish a better feel for city layout maybe a city design tool where they could shift structures a couple meters...but the ability for the mayor to control areas outside his legal territory or to destroy structures within his territory open to many possibilities for griefing.



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BlindTyldak
Fri Nov 28, 2003 2:52 pm
#15

That's called grandfathering. If you were there before the city was, you'd be fine. We all understand that would need to be the case for this to work.


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PadreBook
Fri Nov 28, 2003 2:55 pm
#16

We just had a guy put down a bunch of Solars and a house right before expansion, then claimed that he needed 1.5 million for lost revenue because his harvestors aren't working anymore, and of course he just happen to build in an area we had plans for.


Padre


BlindTyldak
Fri Nov 28, 2003 2:56 pm
#17

Oh, blackmailing? Hehehe, log that one and send it to a CSR. I don't know about anyone else, but I haven't heard of harvestors not working in a city radius.


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PadreBook
Fri Nov 28, 2003 3:00 pm
#18

I had so many tells and I just tried to restrain myself that I forgot to report him. /doh


Because we expanded at 1 am and he contacted me as soon as I got on this morning saying 'we can come to an understanding''1.5 million uh-huh'


What should I do now that the 100 lines have passed?


Padre Book

BlindTyldak
Fri Nov 28, 2003 3:07 pm
#19

My recommendation would be to just laugh at him and develop on the other side of the city instead. He'll move the harvestors eventually, especially once he sees you can't be bothered to take the time out to get upset, and they actually do stop making money once resources shift. Be sure you put zoning rights on, of course. He'll try moving his harvestors somewhere else, see he can't place there, probably get all flustered and start a fit, and then you can log him to your hearts content. If its not too late, ban him on top of it.


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BoyOfLight
Fri Nov 28, 2003 3:38 pm
#20

Not havbing this feature might have somethign to do with ummm Mayors placing city halls near already placed houses and kicking out the residents ( whom had been their for months ) because the player doesnt want to pay a tax they shouldnt have to




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GraySeven
Fri Nov 28, 2003 4:22 pm
#21

Who decides who is troublesome? A PA trying to maintain control, an individual mayor, the total citizenship?


You people are daft. I can't be kicked out of my town in RL, what gives you the right to open up the ability to grief in this manner?


If you want to maintain control, you need to justify your being in control. Too many people see cities as their private domain, and they aren't. Your PA may very well have pooled together the time and resources to start and grow a city, but nowhere in the rules does it state that you get to maintain control of the city because of this. You maintain control because of the job you are doing.


What you are asking is for exclusivity, a closed community, and the Dev's have stated numerous times that this will not happen. While I agree that harvesters should be regulated to OUTSIDE of a cities limits, that should be the only regulation.


Only now are the big PA's that waited for the play cities to go active understanding that just because they started it doesn't mean they will maintain control of it. These are not PA cities, they are Player cities, and every player has a right to them, not just the initial creators.




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BlindTyldak
Fri Nov 28, 2003 4:25 pm
#22

I say the total citizenship should have a say, and if they all decide to kick someone out, so be it. This isn't America (although it can and does happen in my town, but we're South Dakota and pretty much do whatever the hell we want here anyways ).


~~Shabhaii, Mayor of Tombra, Naboo
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The REAL BT
"The FS system only rewards the Veruca Salt's of the MMO world . . . not the Charlie's"

PadreBook
Fri Nov 28, 2003 8:23 pm
#23






GraySeven wrote:

Who decides who is troublesome? A PA trying to maintain control, an individual mayor, the total citizenship?


You people are daft. I can't be kicked out of my town in RL, what gives you the right to open up the ability to grief in this manner?


If you want to maintain control, you need to justify your being in control. Too many people see cities as their private domain, and they aren't. Your PA may very well have pooled together the time and resources to start and grow a city, but nowhere in the rules does it state that you get to maintain control of the city because of this. You maintain control because of the job you are doing.


What you are asking is for exclusivity, a closed community, and the Dev's have stated numerous times that this will not happen. While I agree that harvesters should be regulated to OUTSIDE of a cities limits, that should be the only regulation.


Only now are the big PA's that waited for the play cities to go active understanding that just because they started it doesn't mean they will maintain control of it. These are not PA cities, they are Player cities, and every player has a right to them, not just the initial creators.






Yes but not all situations are griefing either. I mean our city is clearly being extorted, but what can I do, nothing, hey would you like to pay the guy a million five to remove some solar harvestors?


Padre Book

BaudGnarly
Fri Nov 28, 2003 9:30 pm
#24

/sign


This would need to be highly regulated though. I like the idea of giving citizens something more to vote on. Like have Proposition215 "Legalize The Spice!"






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palladiumleader
Fri Nov 28, 2003 10:24 pm
#25

I would be happy if the devs would just clean up all the houses belonging to cancelled accounts. I don't think they disappear properly when they run out of maintenance.



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Risenstar
Sat Nov 29, 2003 12:07 am
#26

Would be nice if house ran out of maintenance and did poof, but they have had problems with that system as it poofed houses that did have maintenance in them. As you said would be a clean up job.


As for the ability to move or destory someones building who was their before a city was slammed into their back door.


NO !


I have the same situation as individual who posted earlier. My house was their first and they placed their city hall behind my house. Now they want us to move house cause it would be good place to put Civic building. They are not offering any money for me or my wife to move it. So you want to give them a Gref tool to use to make us move or destory our large home and all of its 240 contents. I say not ! We have a business that does pretty good that has been there for several months now. We do not plan on moving, and should not be forced to with a tool just to gref us, because they planned poorly. We are good citizens and we are paying our taxes as crazy as they are. If they would have planned better they would have had the space necessary to place their civic structures.


Just my 2 credits but thiswould be used as a gref tool even with its good intentions to clean things up the system isnt doing. Submit a ticket if you think a structure is abandon. They will check itout to makesure. If it is not then you need to contact owner and offer money for them to move.

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