Politician Archive

Thread: Our Demands as an Entire Player Base, We effect EVERYONE, so listen!

VN_MLL
Mon May 16, 2005 4:24 pm
#1

First of all, why was city warn removed, because some idiots abused it once to incap a CSR? Theres no reason to have it removed, we need it badly, people dont NEED to tresspass, and we should have the right to force them off our lands.


Voting should only be allowed when there are multiple people running for mayor, people dont need to vote if there is only an incumbent, and that just means slower development, in case someone forgets or doesnt log on.


Buildings are too expensive. Taxes cant pay for all the required buildings, and the maintenance etc. unless you charge way too much.


We should be able to paint little roads using the building view, because we look like high tech fishing villages right now.


We effect everyone in the game, so why do we get absolutely NO attention?These need to be fixed.


P.S. I'm not the best poster but I do know what we need, please add to this as you see fit.



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VN_MLL
Mon May 16, 2005 4:30 pm
#2

Also, we need a way to remove griefing citizens etc.



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LuciousOtso
Mon May 16, 2005 6:05 pm
#3

in regards to the city warn issue...maybe i'm the only one... but can' they just make CSR's immune to this command? wouldn't it solve all the problems... this just seems so obvious to me

Message Edited by LuciousOtso on 05-16-2005 06:06 PM

Pappi
Mon May 16, 2005 6:25 pm
#4


LuciousOtso wrote:
in regards to the city warn issue...maybe i'm the only one... but can' they just make CSR's immune to this command? wouldn't it solve all the problems... this just seems so obvious to me

Message Edited by LuciousOtso on 05-16-2005 06:06 PM



people who built their cities near POIs can deny people access to the POI by using /citywarn. too many people used the command to grief, and the CSR issue just topped the cake.

to the original poster: cites are suppose to be communities and money sinks. if taxes worked correctly a city can very well sustain itself, so the bugs are the issues, not the cost. textured roads and bulldozing land are out of the question due to technically difficulties. most folks agree that taking a minute out to vote every 3 weeks is not unreasonable.

nothing personal, but I don't understand why folks feel one post is enough for a change. what do you think I've been doing the last year? I want positive change for politicians too, and I've posted every bug/issue/excuse for dev attention. it's disappointing that we're not getting any attention, but that's the way it goes right now.

Message Edited by Pappi on 05-16-2005 06:33 PM




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Jaspor
Tue May 17, 2005 8:22 am
#5

Yeah, like Pappi said, /citywarn was being used in a pretty bad way to grief people. It was a way to drag people in to PvP fights against their will. And, with the removal of TEFs, it seems that now all PvP is totally concentual. Which means we probably won't see /citywarn back anytime soon as a way of allowing the Militia to beat up on other players.


As far as expenses for a city go... Yes, it's expensive. Yes, several taxes are buggy. But, it is still possible to make your city self sufficient. My advice is to crank up property tax and income tax (two taxes that seem to be working), and track your treasury level very closely. See how much you lose or gain each week. Shuttle and garage taxes can add up too if you have enough traffic.


In my experience, the bigger the city, the easier it is to get the taxes to pay for the maintenance. Yes, the cost is higher, but when you have 150+ buildings getting hit with property tax,100+ citizens tossing in their 1000 creds a week for income tax, and dozens of players using your shuttle every day, it IS possible.






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LuciousOtso
Tue May 17, 2005 3:34 pm
#6






Pappi wrote:

nothing personal, but I don't understand why folks feel one post is enough for a change. what do you think I've been doing the last year? I want positive change for politicians too, and I've posted every bug/issue/excuse for dev attention. it's disappointing that we're not getting any attention, but that's the way it goes right now.

Message Edited by Pappi on 05-16-2005 06:33 PM





by responding to the post i didn't mean to say you weren't fighting for us pappi... i think your the 2nd best correspondant ever... next to the just past chef correspondat (have to go look up exactly how to spell his name).... its going to be a sad day when you retire and some big shoes to fill. Although i do have a different attitude with "thats the way it goes right now" because i pay $30 a month (not to metion all these expansion they want me to buy), so i expect my concerns to be addressed in a resonable amount of time (and the resonable amount expired months ago). But that has nothing to do with how hard you've worked, just poor customer serivce on SOE's part.
Pappi
Tue May 17, 2005 3:54 pm
#7



LuciousOtso wrote:


Pappi wrote:

nothing personal, but I don't understand why folks feel one post is enough for a change. what do you think I've been doing the last year? I want positive change for politicians too, and I've posted every bug/issue/excuse for dev attention. it's disappointing that we're not getting any attention, but that's the way it goes right now.

Message Edited by Pappi on 05-16-2005 06:33 PM



by responding to the post i didn't mean to say you weren't fighting for us pappi... i think your the 2nd best correspondant ever... next to the just past chef correspondat (have to go look up exactly how to spell his name).... its going to be a sad day when you retire and some big shoes to fill. Although i do have a different attitude with "thats the way it goes right now" because i pay $30 a month (not to metion all these expansion they want me to buy), so i expect my concerns to be addressed in a resonable amount of time (and the resonable amount expired months ago). But that has nothing to do with how hard you've worked, just poor customer serivce on SOE's part.



you mean sciguy? he's a sweetheart

as for "not our time", I mean that literally... I still start threads about things like sales tax on the corr forum, but it gets drowned out by other posts fairly quickly, mostly posts about jedi/BH. it's disappointing, you know?

I pay them too, and they don't seem to listen to me much nowadays either




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LuciousOtso
Tue May 17, 2005 4:58 pm
#8






Pappi wrote:





LuciousOtso wrote:





Pappi wrote:

nothing personal, but I don't understand why folks feel one post is enough for a change. what do you think I've been doing the last year? I want positive change for politicians too, and I've posted every bug/issue/excuse for dev attention. it's disappointing that we're not getting any attention, but that's the way it goes right now.

Message Edited by Pappi on 05-16-2005 06:33 PM





by responding to the post i didn't mean to say you weren't fighting for us pappi... i think your the 2nd best correspondant ever... next to the just past chef correspondat (have to go look up exactly how to spell his name).... its going to be a sad day when you retire and some big shoes to fill. Although i do have a different attitude with "thats the way it goes right now" because i pay $30 a month (not to metion all these expansion they want me to buy), so i expect my concerns to be addressed in a resonable amount of time (and the resonable amount expired months ago). But that has nothing to do with how hard you've worked, just poor customer serivce on SOE's part.





you mean sciguy? he's a sweetheart

as for "not our time", I mean that literally... I still start threads about things like sales tax on the corr forum, but it gets drowned out by other posts fairly quickly, mostly posts about jedi/BH. it's disappointing, you know?

I pay them too, and they don't seem to listen to me much nowadays either




ya sciguy, i wish he wouldn't have retired .... and ya i hear you, it must be really frustrating to work so hard for something and see not so many results, just remember how appreciated you are, its rare to find a good coors, (i think only 3 corrs stand out in my mind as people who really deserved the job) and you are def one of them.
Pappi
Tue May 17, 2005 5:09 pm
#9

thank you for the kind words I do what I can...




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SeraCohw
Tue May 17, 2005 9:56 pm
#10

could jsut make it so that there are paths that players cant build on or take as part as cities liek a 128 meter wide road or maybe biger that peopel can use and than still add citywarn back
Traie
Wed May 18, 2005 4:35 am
#11






SeraCohw wrote:

...like a 128 meter wide road...





128 meter wide road!?! That's a big ass'd road.

Guess I'm more a simpler kinda guy. I don't need a lot of new stuff. Just fix the old crap finally and I'll be happy.



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DesktopSaki
Wed May 18, 2005 5:43 pm
#12

Make it so /citywarn warns a person they have X minutes to leave the city or cease their behavior. /citypardon can stop the timer. /cityban will not only block them from re-entering the cit, it'll eject troublemakers. Have no PVP involved in it. If the abilities are abused, punish the abusers, not the entire system.


Mayors need to be able to remove problem citizens. We have no recourse right now.


Mayors need the ability to move or remove condemned buildings. I don't care if there's a "junkyard" part of town that they go to intact, we need to be able to do it. Even abandoned buildings that are still feeding off of bank accounts--we have some structures in our town that will be autofed for five, ten, even twentyyears under the current system! A "pawn broker" system would be great. If someone is inactive X months, their house and belongings are removed, and they've given a chit to take to a pawn broker NPC to get them back. They lose nothing.




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Pappi
Wed May 18, 2005 5:55 pm
#13

actually, /citywarn did have a timer. one of the issues with city warn was that cities can use it to prevent others from visiting POIs or accessing certain game content. the fix should've been to disallow folks from building near POIs, but was probably infeasible since there are existing cities there.

as for moving condemned houses (or moving houses in general), we've talked about this for a long time. we even brought it up last fanfest, and they told us their ideas. it didn't get implemented, but they were going to do another purge which would "pack up" houses and the stuff inside into an inactive account's characters' bank. that hasn't happened yet, and I'm guessing it's because they want folks to come back fo the CU and the new expansion. I tried to suggest that they include inactive characters (instead of just cancelled accounts), but no word on that.

I'm all for help with bringing up the purge again to the devs




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