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Thread: Progress on Top-Five response:

Bajeezus
Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:59 am
#1

I have really appreciated all of the patience from everyone here since we first submitted our Top-Five issues. This is the first week that I've started to see rumblings of anticipation. I sent Thunderheart a message to tell him that you all had worked very hard to establish the top-five list, that you had not received a top-five response along with the other professions, and that you were certainly entitled to expect a response.


I heard right back from him, with a good, however partial, report for you.



  • Player-City Garages will be a part of publish 7 if possible(publish 6 is currently on TC) but definitely by publish 8, so we are looking at something a bit more than a month away for implementation of basic function player garages. There are interesting things coming along for garages and crafters, although too far out to give details now, linked to futureplanned vehicle enhancements.



  • Player-city financial reports, your number two issue, is also considered an issue by the developers, so look for some news on that feature in the near future.


I'm pushing for something on our number one issue, gameplay for the profession/skill enhancement, and have continued to toss out "city message of the day" as a nice, easy to implement ability.


That leaves us with no answer yet on "resignation", but again, that's a new feature and IMO is probably on a long-term timetable, and no answer on militia and /warn, which we know the devs are aware of, but which is probably also a large-scale, long-term issue.


I'd like to have come back already with a full Top-Five response from the devs, but really I think its better that we let them take their time on getting back to us on some of our big feature implementation issues. A quick answer would be easy, something like: "interesting, but we don't have time on the schedule for those kinds of feature additions." If that were to be the response, I'm just as happy to let it brew for a while.
Arrya
Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:20 am
#2

Thanks Baj



Basic functionality garages would be great, no need for any fancy stuff yet (although it does sound like that will be interesting...)



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PsychoticChipmunk
Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:39 am
#3

Great, it's always nice to get an update over silence. I'd personally prefer TH or anyone to message you with a "yeah I"m working on it...give it a week" type response over nothing at all. The garages sound fine even though it is a month and a half away, oh well they sound like they will be better then NPC ones so yay.


Could you find out how often the/a dev lurks in this forum to collect ideas and such so we know we aren't just spinning our wheels waiting for you to eventually link to a couple ideas if prompted? I'm nowhere near the communications pipeline so I have no idea if anything I've ever posted has ever even been noticed by a dev (except the one time I won Garva's homeshow...but that's just a "good job" post that doesn't really look into things) ever. I'm not expecging a reply but just to know that I"m likelydoing something more then upping my post count would be nice.




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Andymantium
Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:40 am
#4

Thanks for keeping on top it this, Baj



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Reavus
Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:06 am
#5

Good stuff Bajeezus. Keep after them.





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Bajeezus
Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:14 am
#6






PsychoticChipmunk wrote:

Could you find out how often the/a dev lurks in this forum to collect ideas and such so we know we aren't just spinning our wheels waiting for you to eventually link to a couple ideas if prompted? I'm nowhere near the communications pipeline so I have no idea if anything I've ever posted has ever even been noticed by a dev (except the one time I won Garva's homeshow...but that's just a "good job" post that doesn't really look into things) ever. I'm not expecging a reply but just to know that I"m likelydoing something more then upping my post count would be nice.






I know exactly what you are talking about, PsyChip. It does feel like you are throwing your ideas out into a great void at times. The truth is that these forums, both pre-release and now, have always had a dual nature,partiall for the player community to have a place to talk to each other, and partially for communication to the devs. The problem with this as an avenue for communication to the devs is thatthe forumsare like a firehose, and the devs have a tiny water-glass that they can fill and hold each day.


If you focus mainly on community building, communicating with your fellow players, and posting your own creative concepts for the simple enjoyment of thinking about them and then throwing them out there to be read and debated by other players, then you can have a long and enjoyable career as a SWG forum poster. If you focus entirely on communication with the devs, its going to be a frustrating excercise in futility, and you won't enjoy it.


The attempt the devs are making to turn this firehose of player feedback and participation into useful communication and data is the most wide-ranging, most ambitious attempt at mass-participatory game design I have ever seen, and putting 30+ correspondents out on the forums to bring in a manageably small portion of the flow from that firehose is an important part of their attempt toaddress that challenge.


PsyChip, your contribution to this forum does make a difference, not just in post count, and not even in number of dev responses to your posts, but in helping keep this a positive, productive forum, and by acting as a community leader to help steer this forum out of the whineplay mode that many of the SWG forums were caught up in following the game's release. I know I look forward to your posts, and generally know that I will be reading a thoughtful opinion or some interesting information when I see your name, as well as the names of many other regular contributers on this forum, at the top of a thread or post.

DaQuilla
Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:33 am
#7

Wow, thanks a lot for the update Baj, I wasn't expecting any feadback for the next weeks as Devs are certainly knee deep into combat revamp/changing the present patch on test/working on all the many other fields of SWG. Great to see there's a little time for us.


And I hope you all keep posting on these boards, I couldn't survive work or the serverdowns without them



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Chibi-Bar
Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:37 am
#8

psyChip has a good point. It would be nice if the Devs does check out the forums, but then I thought, there are a tons.... I mean tons of idea being thrown about. Some players have some good idea from past games, some with current game, some with both, some with some background... a lot of good ideas I am glad that there are correspondents in place to help collect some of this pool of information


Granted not all ideas are good... sometimes you just collect junk in the pool But still... I have read many good.. and some REALLY bad ideas.... but that is what these forums are about isn't it?






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eltucco
Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:39 pm
#9

The city resignation feature needs to be in the game asap.


Our town's mayor canceled his account. He came back online to let everyone know and want me to take over. Unfortunately as you listed in your top 5 there as no way to do this in a uncontested way. Now the mayor is gone and due to redeedings for harvestors, etc we are down to one milita member. The city is bascially dead as far as growth because of this issue.


All we need is a feature that allows the mayor to withdrawl from the race as long as there is at least one challenger.


Tried to log a ticket and got a "good luck in the election" response from a csr.



Gron_DM
Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:30 pm
#10

so next patch on garages excellent hope to see some more to the prof in time



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PsychoticChipmunk
Thu Jan 29, 2004 1:41 am
#11

Well I"m not expecting replies and I guess I could have worded that post better so it didn't come off the way it did. I"m just curious if the devsare actually using the profession forums as a means of getting info and feedback or if the they are solely depending on TH and the correspondents to trim it all down for them. Either way it is great to know that we are helping the game along and even just having...well for lack of a better term "debates" with each other about how to improve the profession and other's ideas. I know that what I say isn't just wasted space but if it actually catches the eye of someone up on top instead of the middle on the heirarchy I would feel more appreciated I guess.


Thanks for the compliment too, and so you know I prefer to go by chipmunk




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Hunden
Thu Jan 29, 2004 5:05 am
#12

thanx for the update



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Rufkin
Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:57 am
#13

How am I supposed to get through to the devs, if the player correspondent doesn't pay attention. Is the top issue supposed to be an easy fix??? I feel that we are wasting a chance at an actual fix if we use our number one spot on an item that is already in game. Here are the instructions, again, on how to mail your citizenry.


1) add them all to your friend list, and remove any non-citizens from the list that you don't want included on your e-mails.


2) highlight the list by clicking on the top person, then hold shift, and scroll down with either the arrow key or the mouse scroll button, click on the last person, this should select all of your friends.


3) Now, click mail. Abracadabra, and I'm not even a dev. All your citizens will be emailed, and a significant chance to get something needed in the game won't be wasted on something that is already in the game.


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