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Thread: penalty at master with an advanced set of armor: FIXED THX LORDMAXX AND DEVS

Feistin
Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:55 am
#1

Title say it all. I checked every combat prof on TC, they all have complete mitigation at master with the type of armor they are certified in. Except pistoleer, we have 10% movement hindrance mitigation at master, when an advanced recon armor as a penalty of 19.6%. PLZ try to do something about that it is just NOT FAIR

Message Edited by Feistin on 04-21-2005 11:59 PM



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Balzan
Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:25 pm
#2

I'd figure that since recon armour is low on all mitigation that you can't increase movement rate when you aren't wearing armour (I still think that all armour should be slower than clothed thus allowing for reasons to fight unarmoured).



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Darknyt13
Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:36 pm
#3

Ths has been brought up on several other threads and still no answer


Please DEVS, CORR, some1 just tell us whether or not this is intended and/ or if it will be fixed.



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Darknyt13
Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:34 am
#4

/bump for an answer



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BadgerSmaker
Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:00 am
#5

Isn't this because recon armour has less penalties than other armour so we need less mods to negate the penalties at master?



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Darknyt13
Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:21 am
#6

No.


Advanced Recon Armor has a Movement Penalty of 19.6%.

A Rifleman 0004 has a 20% Recon Armor Movement Mitigation, as does a Smuggler 4000(the other professions certified for Recon armor).

Rifleman and Smuggler can therefore move unrestricted while wearing Recon armor.

A Master Pistoleer would still move 9.6% slower than the Rifleman or Smuggler.


All other combat professions are likewise able to fully overcome any armor hinderances by the time they reach Master.


Except Master Pistoleer.



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BadgerSmaker
Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:31 am
#7

The set of Advanced Recon I was issued by the frogs on test had no penalties on it at all for some reason, other Recon armour did however... I was only Novice Pistoleer. Probably a bug.


That is a bit worrying if we can't overcome the encumberances of our armour, but I'll wait and see how it performs before I get too upset.



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Darknyt13
Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:47 am
#8






BadgerSmaker wrote:

The set of Advanced Recon I was issued by the frogs on test had no penalties on it at all for some reason, other Recon armour did however... I was only Novice Pistoleer. Probably a bug.


That is a bit worrying if we can't overcome the encumberances of our armour, but I'll wait and see how it performs before I get too upset.






Keep in mind there are also three levels of each type of armor available on the frogs:


Basic (Lowest Protection/ Lowest Penalties)


Standard (Medium Pro/ Medium Penalties)


Advanced (Highest Protection/ Highest Penalties)


The 19.6% Movement Penalty mentioned above is on the Advanced Recon Armor...the penalty is lower on the lower protection suits...



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BadgerSmaker
Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:48 am
#9

Hmm, it certainly is advanced recon though... I better get another set then if I'm going to test armour encumberances properly.



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Nifty
Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:42 am
#10

What's the point of hindrances on armor if professions can completely mitigate the hindrances at master (let's assume we were supposed to get 20% movement mitigation)? We were told that going without armor would be viable. Now let's see... do I wear no armor for no protection with no hindrances, or do I wear armor for some protection with no hindrances? I think I wear armor in that case.


as to the actual topic... that's pretty lame if we get penalties at master while no other profession does.



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Feistin
Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:48 am
#11

Totally agree with u nifty. My point is NOT : give us zero penalty, my point is: Do not give all others zero penalty and us some left



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Feistin
Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:27 pm
#12

Sorry Balzan, but u are wrong: At master, for recon armor, pistoleer have :10% movement mitigation, 40% Accuracy mitigation and 60% rate of fire mitigation. Riflemen and smugglers, also wear recon armor, but they have !!!20%!!! movement mitigation, 40% Accuracy mitigation and 60% rate of fire mitigation.

On tc-Ep3(old TC5), an advanced recon armor has: 19.6% movement penalty, 39.6% accurascy penalty and 59.6% rate of fire penalty.
Devs STATED that penalties CANNOT be changed, they are fix, eg. every advanced recon armor will have those penalty.

And if u were wondering..same goes with battle and assault armor...Master Elite prof has Always enough mitigation to completely negate the worse armor penalty of their kind of armor. We are the screwed ones...again.



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Darknyt13
Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:45 pm
#13

/bump



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